[scots-l] Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama, Scottish Music Department

2004-03-05 Thread Cheyenne Brown
Hello!

The Scottish Music Department at the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and 
Drama has started an email newsletter.  This email will bring you news and 
information regarding students past and present, performances and other 
upcoming events.  It will come out about once a month or every six weeks.  
If you would like to be included on this mailing list, please let me know!  
With a goal of having traditional Scottish music reach a wider audience, 
please let your friends know as well!  (The newsletter will be sent out bcc 
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Thanks,

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[scots-l] Two-fifty to Vigo

2004-03-05 Thread Barbara
I am fascinated by the tune Two-fifty to Vigo on the Lunasa album 
Redwood. In researching this tune, I find that it was written by Angus R 
Grant. Couldn't find the tune, though. Does anyone know where I could find 
this tune? Thanks.
Barbara

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Re: [scots-l] Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama, Scottish Music Department

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[scots-l] Petrie's collections

2004-03-05 Thread Steve Wyrick
I have a facsimile of Robert Petrie's tune books (thanks to Jan Tappan),
which I think have never been reprinted, and I'm finding a lot of
enjoyable tunes that don't show up in abc anywhere on the net.  I'm
thinking about starting a project to transcribe these books into abc but I
thought I'd ask for some advice.  First, does anyone know of an existing
abc transcription or other electronic facsimile of Petrie's collections? 
I don't want to duplicate someone else's work.  Second, these tunes are
scored for melody plus bass line (Petrie says, suitable for Harpsichord or
Cello); if I do pursue this project, is there value in transcribing the
bass lines as well?  Being a fiddler I don't normally deal with the bass
clef but I'm sure I could figure it out!  Any advice appreciated -Steve
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Re: [scots-l] Petrie's collections

2004-03-05 Thread Cliff Abrams
Steve,

Please eliminate the bass line, and, to the extent
that you are willing to do the work, use usual keys:
d, g, c, a or f. I await the result.

CA

...I'm thinking about starting a project to
transcribe these books into abc...

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RE: [scots-l] Petrie's collections

2004-03-05 Thread Skip McCabe
Steve:

I too look forward to the results. Let me know if you need help with any ABC
transcription. Not having to transcribe the base line would make life easier
on your project! Please let me know, Steve. Thanks.

Skip McCabe - Corona, California



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I have a facsimile of Robert Petrie's tune books (thanks to Jan Tappan),
which I think have never been reprinted, and I'm finding a lot of
enjoyable tunes that don't show up in abc anywhere on the net.  I'm
thinking about starting a project to transcribe these books into abc but I
thought I'd ask for some advice.  First, does anyone know of an existing
abc transcription or other electronic facsimile of Petrie's collections? 
I don't want to duplicate someone else's work.  Second, these tunes are
scored for melody plus bass line (Petrie says, suitable for Harpsichord or
Cello); if I do pursue this project, is there value in transcribing the
bass lines as well?  Being a fiddler I don't normally deal with the bass
clef but I'm sure I could figure it out!  Any advice appreciated -Steve
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Re: [scots-l] Petrie's collections

2004-03-05 Thread Matt Seattle


Cliff Abrams wrote:

 Please  use usual keys:
 d, g, c, a or f

Why? Fiddlers write tunes in specific keys deliberately. Certainly some
of James Hill's tunes (for example) are in more 'awkward' keys (E, Bb)
but if you change them you find even more awkward string crossings.
Matt Seattle
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[scots-l] Petrie collections

2004-03-05 Thread Jack Campin
 I have a facsimile of Robert Petrie's tune books (thanks to Jan
 Tappan), which I think have never been reprinted,

Llanerch Press reprinted them, they're still available and not very
expensive.

 these tunes are scored for melody plus bass line (Petrie says,
 suitable for Harpsichord or Cello); if I do pursue this project,
 is there value in transcribing the bass lines as well?

Take a look at a few of them and see how good they are.  My take is
that it's worth doing the bass lines for 18th century sources but
not for much past 1830 - by then, they tend to be over-elaborate
and pianistic in ways that not many people would care to replicate
today.  The very bare lines of things like the early Gow collections
are much more usable as a starting point for a modern setting, or
for recreating a period public performance.  (Think of those later,
more complicated settings as like the piano reductions of symphonies
that were so popular at the time - people wouldn't actually dance to
a piano, it was acting as a reproducing device to evoke a sound they
didn't have radios and Robbie Shepherd for).  Few of the Petrie tunes
(if any) will have a bass line by the original composer, so there
isn't the sort of gain in authenticity you'd have with Mackintosh or
Nathaniel Gow.

Also Llanerch are doing good work and deserve not to be undercut.  A
melody-only edition wouldn't compete with their product.

Somebody else suggested transposing into convenient keys.  I would
suggest NOT doing that; there are computer tools for it if you need
to.  And one instrument's easy key is another one's nightmare.  I have
found a few tunes, originally intended for harp of keyboard, which
happen to work very well on an F alto recorder in the original key;
they sorta fit the fiddle in that key, but very few fiddlers play them.
Mr Ronald Crawford (F minor), Belhelvie House (C minor) and Miss
Gordon of Gight (C minor) come to mind.  I wouldn't have thought of
that if I'd been using transposed versions.

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Re: [scots-l] Petrie's collections

2004-03-05 Thread David Greenberg or Kate Dunlay
Please eliminate the bass line, and, to the extent
that you are willing to do the work, use usual keys:
d, g, c, a or f. I await the result.
Some researchers do look at the bass lines, although those people will 
want to see the original anyway. Even if not to play, the bass line 
tells you what key the arranger thought the tune was in, and 
occasionally that's news.

What do you mean use usual keys. I think he should use the original 
keys in the book.

- Kate D.

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Re: [scots-l] Petrie collections

2004-03-05 Thread David Greenberg or Kate Dunlay
I have a facsimile of Robert Petrie's tune books (thanks to Jan
Tappan), which I think have never been reprinted,
Llanerch Press reprinted them, they're still available and not very
expensive.
Llanerch Press reprinted George Petrie. That's an Irish collection.

- Kate D.

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