[scots-l] Re: ABCs

2004-11-12 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Matt Seattle wrote:

 Nigel, are you sure you got the mode right for Cassino? Sounds
 decidedly odd IMHO! 

Matt spots the deliberate mistake this week - glad you're awake, Matt!

Yes, of course you're right. The key it's normally in is A dorian - I
think - but on the record I took it from it was played in E dorian.
Sorry for that! 

Iain MacInnes is a piper who has played with The Tannahill Weavers and
Smalltalk (the band then metamorphosed into Ossian mark 2), and I loved
his work on the Smalltalk album, and was particularly taken with his
rendition of The Heights of Cassino. He later became a student of
mine when he joined my mandolin class; I got quite a shock when I
realised it was him, but he's such a very nice man. I asked him about
that recording, and he told me he played it on an A low whistle, so
had he played it on a D whistle, it would indeed have been in A dorian.
Yah boo sucks.

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Re: [scots-l]ABCs

2004-11-12 Thread John Chambers
Nigel Gatherer writes:
| Matt Seattle wrote:
|
|  Nigel, are you sure you got the mode right for Cassino? Sounds
|  decidedly odd IMHO!
|
| Matt spots the deliberate mistake this week - glad you're awake, Matt!
|
| Yes, of course you're right. The key it's normally in is A dorian - I
| think - but on the record I took it from it was played in E dorian.
| Sorry for that!

Hmmm ...  It sounds better to me if I play it as Amix.  This  is  the
same  key  sig as Edorian, of course, but the tonic is clearly A.  So
should the c's be sharp or natural?

Part of why I'd put it into Amix is that it looks and sounds  like  a
highland pipe tune.  But I suppose it doesn't have to be.

Maybe I'll try it in a few other scales and see how it works. A hijaz
seems to work pretty well, so maybe it's really a Turkish pipe tune?



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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

2004-11-12 Thread Cliff Abrams
The Heights of Cassino seems to be consistently in
Dmaj. See The Session.org for abc, sheetmusic and a
fascinating discussion of the WWII battle. The
postings, rather new, may have come out of this
discussion. Except for a note or two, the Session
version is, for example, identical to the setting in
Ceol na Fidhle -- Highland tunes for the Fiddle,
Volume Three, page 23.

http://thesession.org/tunes/display.php/3833

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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

2004-11-12 Thread Matt Seattle
 Matt spots the deliberate mistake this week - glad you're awake, Matt!

Yes Nigel, but I was really wondering whether it should be mixolydian
rather than dorian - ?
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[scots-l] Re: ABCs

2004-11-12 Thread Nigel Gatherer
John Chambers wrote:

 ...It sounds better to me if I play it as Amix.  This  is  the
 same  key  sig as Edorian, of course, but the tonic is clearly A.  So
 should the c's be sharp or natural?

Sharp all the way. Of course you're right, John - Amix. My infamous
fumbling when it comes to talking about modes is evident. 

 Part of why I'd put it into Amix is that it looks and sounds  like  a
 highland pipe tune.  But I suppose it doesn't have to be.

It's a pipe tune, but the reason for offering this alternative way of
playing it is that it sounds wonderful. When I first transposed it I
tried to stay faithful to the way it was played on the record. It's a
lovely, haunting tune, isn't it? 

As I spend a lot of time driving these days, I'm always listening to
music, and in traffic jams I try to learn some tunes. I heard a nice
tune on a Deaf Shepherd recording this week - Clanranald. As the
queues of cars crawled along, I worked it out on the whistle which is
always in the side pocket. It was probably a straightforward reel
originally, but the band plays it as a slow reel. Aha - I've just
looked it up, and one alternative name for it is given as MacKinnon's
Brook - isn't that a Cape Breton setting? Kate Dunlay says may be
related - I think more certainly. Can't work out the proper mode. Or,
more truthfully, can't be bothered working it out.

X:734
T:Clanranald
S:Deaf Shepherd
Z:Nigel Gatherer
L:1/8
M:4/4
K:Em
Z | E3 B GEE^c | dDDA FDAF | E3   B GE B/c/d | FDAF BEE :|
f | geBA GFEg  | fdAG FEDf | geBA   GFE^c| dBAF BEE  
f | geBA GFEg  | fdAG FEDf | gbfa efde | BdAF BEE ||

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