Re: [scots-l] dots needed, please
Title: Re: [scots-l] dots needed, please Would you like a copy of the music in normal music notation? Contact me off list and I'll fax or snail mail. I've always heard it as AABA, by the way. It looks a lot scarier on the page than it is to play it. Jan Tappan Hi ye all, I seem to be too stupid to figure out this tune: Prince Charles last view of Scotland Unfortunately the abc version in the Fiddler´s Companion has something wrong with it and cannot be converted... somebody around to help? thanks! Eva word.Art.work translation advertising ghostwriting proofreading pre-press (DTP) typesetting of sheetmusic carving inlay work of fine fittings for violin, cello double bass Scottish / Cape Breton Music on Guitar, Fiddle Flutes Eva Aralikatti Lehrer-Götz-Weg 20 D - 81825 München Tel 089 - 45 46 16 68 mobil 0173 - 926 12 14
Re: [scots-l] Cameron Men
Steve, I have a copy, got one years ago by some miracle. I love it - don't have any tech know-how, though. Don't think I'd be able to post anything. Still, we'll talk soon... Jan Tappan Me too! Any chance of posting some clips? presumably it's not still in production... i'd love to hear it! -- Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages
Right, after I posted the message below, I found the announcement about the sale of Kerr's to someone who was going to expand and continue the business as Glasgow Music Center - so that's the right group. Glad to see they have a web site. Clearly, I haven't kept up with the evolution of Kerr's! Jan Jan Tappan helpfully wrote: Clearing out old papers today I came across a 2000 catalog for Kerr's. I'm pretty sure they still are in business ... snip ... I haven't looked to see if they have a web presence or email now; perhaps they do. It doesn't look like they themselves do, although I did find this supplier which lists and sells the company's publications: http://www.glasgowmusiccentre.co.uk/home/kerrs_music_corporation/km_catalogue.html The Merry Melodies are in the Violin Albums section. John -- *** John McChesney-Young ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. *** Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: Kerr's reel-and-strathspey pages
Andrew Kuntz wrote: Have the Kerr collections been definitively dated? I don't recall Merry Melodies having a publishing date in any of the four volumes, but I understand the publishing house was (is?) active for some time. And Nigel answered, No. Unfortunately the background to the Kerrs books is vague, although I've often felt like doing some research. I believe the company still exists in some form in Glasgow, but I'm shy of approaching them (apart from having failed to find the time to do so). Clearing out old papers today I came across a 2000 catalog for Kerr's. I'm pretty sure they still are in business; Debby Hand who bought Fiddlers Crossing and put FC on the Internet ordered from them not long ago. Here's the contact info from 2000 for what it's worth; hopefully it's still the same. They were lovely folks to deal with in the years that I used to order from them. Kerr's Music Corporation Ltd. 65 Berkeley Street Glasgow G3 7DZ Tel 0141 221 6805 Incorporating: James S. Kerr established 1863 (one imagines that the Kerr's books were published after 1863). Bayley Ferguson, established 1869 Mozart Allan, established 1868 Thistle Records, established 1953 I noticed that they tended to be a bit behind the rest of the world, technologically, when I used to order from them. It was rather charming to get hand written invoices, but frustrating not to be able to contact them via fax, in the pre-Internet era. They do have a fax now, but I haven't looked to see if they have a web presence or email now; perhaps they do. Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Archie McAllister
Title: Re: [scots-l] Archie McAllister Sorry i can be of no help. I am also looking for information on the Scottish Fiddler Ian Powrie, does anyone know anything about him? Thankyou Sure, what do you want to know? He's a very well known Scottish fiddler and composer. Write questions for me off list. And who are you?? Jan Tappan
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #562
Mike McGeary wrote: Re: Alasdair Fraser pairs it with The Cowboy Jig (in A) on The Road... The problem with the Fraser pairing is that he plays Calliope House in D. Toby wrote - Yes, and Calliope House doesn't sound as good in D, as it does in E. Quite right, and it lies well on the fiddle in E as well. I've never understood why one would bother to put it into D. Maybe they couldn't find jigs in E to put it with?? ;) Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Jig classifications
Title: Re: [scots-l] Jig classifications Andrew Kuntz wrote, This probably has been asked before on this list, but what are Scottish 9/8 tunes referred to as? Slip Jigs? Jigs? 9/8 Jigs? I've heard all three in reference to Scottish 9/8 tunes. Are the Irish classifications of slip, single and double jig being used for Scottish tunes in modern times, and if so when did the practice begin? I've only heard single and double jigs in reference to Irish tunes, not Scottish. Similarly, are 3/2 hornpipes referred to as Old Hornpipes or is there another term that is in common use? 3/2 hornpipes themselves aren't all that common where I live; I guess we'd just call them hornpipes. I'm guessing the time signature may scare fiddlers away from them. I'd love to hear others' takes on these questions. I have a feeling that my information may be limited because of my location in S. Calif. Thanks for bringing up the topic - I don't remember it being addressed before. Jan Tappan
[scots-l] Bert Murray
I just had word that Bert Murray, fiddler and composer from Aberdeen, died on Monday at age 90. He was an amazing, energetic, encouraging man and he will be sorely missed. Among his many compositions is the reel Sean Maguire, known sometimes as Magnetic in Cape Breton. If anyone here has a way to pass the news on to the Cape Breton list or to folks there who might not have heard, I'd be grateful. Thanks, Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: Scots Music Quiz
I don't have a clue on any of the answers, but I'm looking forward to the discussion. I have an easy question, I think. How did the Jig of Slurs get it's name? I was told the tune as played by pipers uses an ornament they call a slur which I gather bears no relation to what fiddlers think is a slur. Pipers? Any truth to that? For the fiddlers: The C part starts out: |:G2g gfg|agf gdB| How do you bow that? Using alternating bows puts the bow going in the wrong direction for the next G. I tried slurring the gdB, which plays well, but doesn't sound right. I bow it: down, down, up-down-up, down-up-down, up-down-up, with the first down being short and sort of staccato - I'm not sure I'm using the right terms. I use the same bowing for the rest of the phrases that are similar in that section. Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: More Scottish fiddle questions
Nigel wrote, Re Hector MacAndrew recordings: I get the impression he didn't record an awful lot, but I have three LPs which feature him: VARIOUS, THE FIDDLER'S COMPANION HECTOR MACANDREW, SCOTTISH FIDDLE MUSIC SCOTTISH FIDDLERS TO THE FORE I've got a couple more with odd tracks by him. There must be a CD waiting in the wings...? That would be fantastic! Hardie Press used to distribute a cassette of his - the Scottish Fiddle Music. It went out of print a few years ago because the man who had made it available to Hardie died and his heirs didn't want to deal with it. With the new book and Paul Anderson's CD of Hector's music, I would think now would be a great time for a reissue on CD of his recordings. I really like the book, particularly the minor key tunes. There are some terrific tunes in that book! If any of you folks in Scotland hear about a reissue of Hector's recordings, please let us all know. Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Burns Night
Nigel Gatherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a good evening. Any other musical tales? I played for a Burns *sing-along*, if you can believe it, at a local university faculty club Burns dinner. They all actually sang, too. Is this sort of event unique? Does anyone else know of a sing-along of Burns songs? The song aren't easy, not really meant for sing alongs. I tried to find tunes with choruses, but they are in pretty short supply. I've done this gig for about 5 or 6 years, and we're beginning to run out of tunes with choruses. This year we did Ae Fond Kiss, Rantin' Roving Robin, I'll Ay Gae to Yon Town, Ye Jacobites by Name, and A Man's a Man for A' That. And Auld Lang Syne, of course. Jan Tappan Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Good fusions, bad fusions (was SHSA Comps)
Toby Rider wrote: on my desert isle list :-) For instance, every album Alasdair Fraser has released except for one, is basically fusion and I think they've all Which one? I'd like to make sure to get that one. Bob Jumping into the fire here, I'd say Legacy of the Scottish Fiddle, Vol. 1, and probably Vol. 2 when it's released, and possibly also Portrait of a Scottish Fiddler are the most traditional and least fusion-like, though some folks might also argue for Driven Bow being fairly traditional as well. Just my opinion... This seems like a good time to mention that I have sold Fiddlers Crossing to Debby Hand at Mountain Music in Tehachapi, CA. Contact information is at www.fiddlerscrossing.com, and they hope to have the catalog online at that URL in a month or two. I'm still serving as advisor to them and to customers, but the day to day operations have all moved north. I should be getting a teaching credential in June and with any luck will be gainfully employed teaching elementary school students in the fall. Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: Shetland Fiddler, The
In my copy of the Edcath Collection, the Shetland Fiddler appears on page 60, and it says it was *arranged* by Pipe-Major D.S. Ramsay - it doesn't say he wrote it. The attributions are pretty clear in the book (and not all tunes have attributions), where composers are noted, it mostly says by xxx, or sometimes someone's name (without the by) is listed, and that too looks like the person wrote it (G.Redpath, Leven for example).In some cases I know the composer, and they have attributed the tune to the correct composer. In the preface, it says Pipe-Major Donald Shaw Ramsay of the Edinburgh City Police Pipe Band, winners of the 1950 World's Pipe Band Championship, has spared no pains in compiling this unique book, and he feels that it will be welcomed by pipers, drummers and pipe bands generally, at home and abroad. He wishes to express his thanks to those who sent in pipe tunes, and particularly to those drummers who readily lent their support by producing scores to suit. Many tunes contained herein are original compositions. It doesn't look as if Ramsay wrote the Shetland Fiddler, just that he arranged it, as he did for many other tunes in the book, including Laird of Drumblair. He did write several other tunes in the book apparently - the ones that just have his name and not the arr. before the name. For what it's worth... Jan Tappan Ted Hastings wrote: This tune also appears in Jerry Holland's Collection of Fiddle Tunes. According to a footnote there, the tune first appeared in a pipe setting in The Edcath Collection Vol. 1, 1954 by Donald Shaw Ramsay. Ah that solves it. Thanks, Ted. -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Music source books
At 07:49 PM 10/5/02 -0700, you wrote: Someone mentioned Morrison - was that William? Or Jane or John, who only have one R in the last name? The title page reads: Highland Airs Quicksteps, arranged for the Pianoforte by J.F. Morison. Inverness, Logan Co.; 59 Church Street, also at Elgin, Nairn and Dingwall. --Cynthia Cathcart Thanks Cynthia. That would be Jane Morison, then. That collection is interesting to me because it's the only?/one of a few? from that time put together by a woman, even though she calls herself J.F. on the cover. It's Jane Fraser Morison. Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Music source books
Regarding the Marshall collection, I did have that, but just checked stock and I'm sold out. I could probably come up with a copy if needed, though. I'm finding the discussion of music books fascinating! Thanks, guys. I don't have much to contribute, though. I collect pretty much any Scottish music I can find and I've been doing it for a while. Now I need a good system to find things! Someone mentioned Morrison - was that William? Or Jane or John, who only have one R in the last name? Jan Tappan Fiddlers Crossing BTW, someone mentioned a William Marshall collection; I can't find that message again and think I accidentally deleted it. I'd appreciate more details on that one if anyone has it (or any other good Marshall collections if there's more than one) as he's rapidly becoming one of my favorites. That was me. It's a half-size reprint of Marshall's three main collections and the original Kinrara sheet done by Fiddlecase Books in the 1980s. I haven't seen another copy in years; if it's still available, I imagine Fiddler's Crossing will know where to get you one. Warning, the print quality is grotty - not very good originals and reducing them was not a good idea. I looked at Marshall's own copy of his 1822 collection once, to see what corrections he might have made to the printed version. Answer: none at all. He seems to have perfectly happy with it. === http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ === Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Scots Music Quiz
He was the butler, wasn't he? Jan Tappan Ted Hastings wrote: 10. Which fiddler/composer could also have been described as a mathematician, an architect, an astronomer and a clockmaker? William Marshall Didn't this question also leave out Gardner? Wasn't Marshall the Duke of Gordon's groundskeeper? Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: Fleein' the doo'
Thanks Nigel! That's very helpful. Makes a great deal of sense. Jan In article a05010400b8c55540346b@[66.32.152.250], Tappan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any idea what fleein' the doo' means? it's from one of the versions of Mucking of Geordie's Byre. The context is: The whisky ga'ed roun' Tammy Fleeing' the doo' And aye as they drank, the mair they go fou' The only anes sober, the calf an' the coo' At the mucking of Geordie's byre. Hi Jan. Sorry it's taken so long to answer - I'm still catching up. To flee the doo or flee the blue means to send someone out surreptitiously for more whisky, so the meaning becomes clear in the context of the song. Which version of Mucking of Geordie's Byre is it from? I've been listening to Jimmy Macbeath's magnificent version which doesn't have that verse (neither do G S Morris's new lyrics in which no mention of alcohol is made), but it's such an old song there are bound to be countless variations. -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: Few Notes
Jack Campin wrote, Do you have the Patrick McDonald collection? I thought somebody had reprinted it but now can't find any trace of the reprint. Was I imagining it? I have it and sell photocopies. There have been a few reprints in the past; I don't know if any of them are still available. Jan Tappan Fiddlers Crossing Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Paddledoo collection
It's a collection of tunes arranged for Scottish country dancing. That's what my copy is, anyway. Ed Pearlman arranged it and you can get it from him via Portland America, probably. There's a web site... Jan Tappan Eric Dodson wrote: anyone know from where I can order a copy of the Paddledoo collection? Nigel asked, The WHAT? Tell us more. Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Official scots-l site
Nigel Gather wrote, some time ago, But what's happened to some of the old fowk? Gary Blair left the list because there wasn't enough traffic on it, which seems an odd reason indeed. But what happened to the likes of Philip Whittaker and are you still there, Chic? Does Erica still listen in? Jan Tappan? Haven't heard from Timothy for a while. I'm still lurking, Nigel. The last couple years have been taken up with negotiating a settlement in my divorce (nearly finished) so I haven't had much time to read or write to the list. Still fiddling, though, and getting ready at the moment for a concert on April 7th and a dance benefit for a friend with cancer on March 31st. Just back from Thailand where I saw my daughter sing the title role in a new opera in Bangkok - great fun! but hardly of much interest to folks on this list. Jan Tappan Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Balnain House
Someone on another list I'm on forwarded this from the Travel in Scotland Newsletter. Have anyone heard about this? Is it true? Balnain House, the Inverness company devoted to promoting Highland music, is to close following financial difficulties running to around £50,000. Billed as the "home of Highland music", Balnain House has been a popular venue for traditional music sessions, workshops and concerts as well as hosting an exhibition of Highland Music. The building on the shores of the River Ness also houses a shop and a restaurant. The Board of Balnain House made the decision to call it a day after a Glasgow-based business consultant reported that the company's activities coupled with having to look after an A-listed building were unsustainable. The company will now be wound up by the end of December. Four years ago Balnain House encountered similar financial troubles and were taken over by the National Trust for Scotland with the help of grant aid from Historic Scotland. Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Caledonian Companion
Keith W Dunn asked [re "The Caledonian Companion"]:
...was wanting to get some opinions of this book...
Nigel answered,
I'm not a fiddler, alas, so I can't vouch for the quality of the sections
on fiddle technique - it certainly goes into a lot of detail.
I've found that people with some classical background find this book
especially helpful - or people who are trying to learn Scottish
fiddling from a classical teacher who doesn't really know the style.
The main drawback (in my mind) is the lack of a recording of all the
tunes in the book. However, I have recommended it to many people and
used it in my own teaching. There are some nice tunes in the book.
There is decent enough background to the tunes, and it's an advantage to
have the LP which was released at the same time ('The Fiddler's
Companion', 1980) - although I'm unsure whether it has been re-released on
CD.
To the best of my knowledge (as of a couple months ago) it hasn't
been re-released on CD, although there are plans to do this. There
have been plans to do this for the last several years. The recording
is a selection of tunes in the book, played by a variety of fiddlers
- helpful as far as it goes, but I'd have loved a recording of all
the tunes. Probably too big a project. Ah well...
Jan Tappan
Fiddlers Crossing
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