Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-07 Thread Nigel Gatherer

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jack Campin wrote:
  
   People have been commenting extensively on Andy Dejarlis Jig, but I'd
   like to add that I think for The Sailor's Wife Em is a more usual key
   than Dm.
  
  Not here it isn't - people play it in D minor or not at all (despite
  it being in print in E minor for well over a century).
  

   I would think that it's alot easier to play in D minor, at least on the
 fiddle. Can it even be played on wind insturments in Em?

Why not? It lies quite nicely on the whistle in Em. I must say I prefer it
in E minor, and I've heard it played here in that key.

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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-07 Thread Ian Adkins

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From: Nigel Gatherer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig


 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jack Campin wrote:
  
People have been commenting extensively on Andy Dejarlis Jig, but
I'd
like to add that I think for The Sailor's Wife Em is a more usual
key
than Dm.
  
   Not here it isn't - people play it in D minor or not at all (despite
   it being in print in E minor for well over a century).
  

  I would think that it's alot easier to play in D minor, at least on the
  fiddle. Can it even be played on wind insturments in Em?

 Why not? It lies quite nicely on the whistle in Em. I must say I prefer it
 in E minor, and I've heard it played here in that key.

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 http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/scottish/index.html

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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-07 Thread tarider

John Chambers wrote:
 
 Toby wrote:
 | Wendy Galovich wrote:
 |  At 10:18 AM 1/7/2001 -0500, Ian Adkins wrote:
 |  Somebody here got that dang-ol' Seven Dwarves virus...
 |  Yeah.. I've received it twice so far and McAfee squashed it both times.
 |
 |   Huh? Windoze viruses die a painful death on Linux machines :-)
 
 Not really.  They just lie there  dormant,  waiting  for  someone  or
 something  to  transfer them to a more suitable host.  Then they come
 back to life.

Kind of like all those eggs from the first Aliens movie. Sitting,
chilling out on that barren planet, until some hapless human accidently
gets too curious and gets infected by one of them. Involuntarily
surrendering himself as a host for the seductively efficient and
relentless xenomorphic predator? :-) 


 Ain't metaphors wonderful?


You bet!
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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-06 Thread Jack Campin

 People have been commenting extensively on Andy Dejarlis Jig, but I'd
 like to add that I think for The Sailor's Wife Em is a more usual key
 than Dm.

Not here it isn't - people play it in D minor or not at all (despite
it being in print in E minor for well over a century).

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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-06 Thread tarider

Jack Campin wrote:
 
  People have been commenting extensively on Andy Dejarlis Jig, but I'd
  like to add that I think for The Sailor's Wife Em is a more usual key
  than Dm.
 
 Not here it isn't - people play it in D minor or not at all (despite
 it being in print in E minor for well over a century).
 

I would think that it's alot easier to play in D minor, at least on the
fiddle. Can it even be played on wind insturments in Em?

Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-04 Thread Toby Rider

Derek Hoy wrote:
 
 Nigel asked:
  One jig set which was delightful included "Andy Dejarlis Jig" and "The
  Sailor's Wife". These two were actually played again later, the first time
  "Andy Dejarlis" was played in D and "Sailor's Wife" in D minor, then later
  they were played in E and E minor. I think E is the original key, but of
  the people here who play it, is it more usually played in E or D?
 
 E seems right. Interesting that E sounds to me like it's CB, whereas D makes
 it sound Irish.
 

Actually Cape Breton style suffers from a shortage of E major stuff.
Plenty of E dorian stuff. I have had the hardest time finding 4-6 E jigs
that I like to build a set, so I usually bend the rules a bit and shift
into G major for a couple of the jigs.

Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-03 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Toby Rider wrote:

   Played in E. Jerry Holland wrote it.

Not according to his book 'Jerry Holland's Collection'. There it's cited
as traditional:

"Jerry learned the Andy Dejarlis Jig from the playing of Mike MacDougall.
When looking for a title, Johnny Wilmot told us that he remembered hearing
Dejarlis play it. Andy Dejarlis was a fiddler and composer from Manitoba.
It is possible that he composed this, but we don't know. He was known for
his fine waltzes"

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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-03 Thread Toby Rider

Nigel Gatherer wrote:
 
 Toby said:
 
Played in E.
 
 Yes, I've found it in Jerry's book, and I prefer it in E. "Calliope House"
 is another jig in E which is sometimes played in D; again, I prefer it in
 E.
 

All those Irish flute players try to put everything in D :-) The key of
E is a beautiful key, especially on stringed instruments. Are you
familiar with the tune "Cameron Chisholm's Strathspey", it's an
excellent dark tune on E. It's fairly recently written. Unfortunately I
don't remember who wrote it because I learned it off of ear from one of
David Greenberg's hometapes.


Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-03 Thread John Chambers

|
|   All those Irish flute players try to put everything in D :-) The key of
| E is a beautiful key, especially on stringed instruments. Are you
| familiar with the tune "Cameron Chisholm's Strathspey", it's an
| excellent dark tune on E. It's fairly recently written. Unfortunately I
| don't remember who wrote it because I learned it off of ear from one of
| David Greenberg's hometapes.

Hmmm ...  I found two different tunes with  this  title,  one  is  on
Brenda Stubbert's web site and attributed to Maybelle Chisholm:
   http://www.cranfordpub.com//tunes/CapeBreton/Compliments_to_Cameron.htm

The other is by Brenda Stubbert:
   http://www.cranfordpub.com/tunes/abcs/stubbertarchive.abc
It's tune number 12.  It's called a march, but it's really more of  a
strathspey-time (slow) march.

They're both good tunes, but neither is in E major. The first is in E
dorian; the second in D major.

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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-03 Thread Toby Rider

John Chambers wrote:
 
 |
 |   All those Irish flute players try to put everything in D :-) The key of
 | E is a beautiful key, especially on stringed instruments. Are you
 | familiar with the tune "Cameron Chisholm's Strathspey", it's an
 | excellent dark tune on E. It's fairly recently written. Unfortunately I
 | don't remember who wrote it because I learned it off of ear from one of
 | David Greenberg's hometapes.
 
 Hmmm ...  I found two different tunes with  this  title,  one  is  on
 Brenda Stubbert's web site and attributed to Maybelle Chisholm:
http://www.cranfordpub.com//tunes/CapeBreton/Compliments_to_Cameron.htm
 
 The other is by Brenda Stubbert:
http://www.cranfordpub.com/tunes/abcs/stubbertarchive.abc
 It's tune number 12.  It's called a march, but it's really more of  a
 strathspey-time (slow) march.
 
 They're both good tunes, but neither is in E major. The first is in E
 dorian; the second in D major.
 

The one in E dorian is the one I know, and that is right, it was
written by Maybelle Chisholm Doyle. Great tune! I sometimes do it before
Bog An Lochan. 



Toby
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Re: [scots-l] Andy Dejarlis Jig

2001-01-02 Thread Toby Rider

Played in E. Jerry Holland wrote it.

Nigel Gatherer wrote:
 
 
 One jig set which was delightful included "Andy Dejarlis Jig" and "The
 Sailor's Wife". These two were actually played again later, the first time
 "Andy Dejarlis" was played in D and "Sailor's Wife" in D minor, then later
 they were played in E and E minor. I think E is the original key, but of
 the people here who play it, is it more usually played in E or D?

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