Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite
John Chambers wrote: ...New England contra-dance musicians (who consider it Irish)... So, for that matter, do Irish musicians. Even if it were Nathaniel Gow's composition it, along with hundreds of Scots-origin tunes, can be regarded as Irish because it has been absorbed into that tradition. It doesn't exactly work the other way around. Take a tune like The Rakes of Mallow which is obviously an Irish tune in origin (Mallow is a town in County Cork): it has been played for centuries in Scotland and is part of our traditional repertoire, but would we call it a Scottish tune? Consider this can of worms opened (are you ready, Ted?). -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite
Nigel Gatherer writes: | John Chambers wrote: | ...New England contra-dance musicians (who consider it Irish)... | | So, for that matter, do Irish musicians. Even if it were Nathaniel | Gow's composition it, along with hundreds of Scots-origin tunes, can be | regarded as Irish because it has been absorbed into that tradition. It | doesn't exactly work the other way around. Take a tune like The Rakes | of Mallow which is obviously an Irish tune in origin (Mallow is a town | in County Cork): it has been played for centuries in Scotland and is | part of our traditional repertoire, but would we call it a Scottish | tune? | | Consider this can of worms opened (are you ready, Ted?). Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all. They're just following one of the oldest and most universal musical traditions: If you hear a good tune, steal it. After a generation or two, your people will consider it one of their traditional tunes. And it will be. Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite
John Chambers wrote: Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all... Can't you tell when I'm trying to whip up a juicy thread? :-) -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite
Nigel Gatherer writes: | John Chambers wrote: | | Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all... | | Can't you tell when I'm trying to whip up a juicy thread? :-) Oh, sorry, uh, I guess it's really a can of worms. Big, fat ones that would make good troll bait. (Hmmm ... Do trolls eat worms? I don't know what they eat.) Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite
--- John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nigel Gatherer writes: | John Chambers wrote: | | Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all... | | Can't you tell when I'm trying to whip up a juicy thread? :-) Oh, sorry, uh, I guess it's really a can of worms. Big, fat ones that would make good troll bait. (Hmmm ... Do trolls eat worms? I don't know what they eat.) Goat meatif we remember the children's rhyme. Chris = Christopher Rennie Network Manager, Archdiocese of Detroit Master's Candidate, Wayne State University, Library Information Science Program [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are what you do when it counts. __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite
A really extreme case is the well-known contra jig Maggie Brown's Favorite. In its original (Irish) form... How sure are you about this, John? Nathaniel Gow put his name to it (Miss Margaret Brown, now Lady Camden) in the early 19th century I've never seen an Irish source quoted that was earlier than Gow, so I think it's Nat's tune. - Kate D. -- Kate Dunlay David Greenberg Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada http://www.total.net/~dungreen Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
