Re: [scots-l] Old Rattray march

2004-04-22 Thread John Chambers
Steve Wyrick writes:
| I'm trying to find some information on the tune Old Rattray.  The version
| below came from JC's tunefinder but I've had no luck finding anything
| further.  Can anyone help me with a source, composer, etc.?  Thanks -Steve
|
| X: 1
| T: Old Rattray
| R: march
| M: 4/4
| L: 1/8
| F:http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Scotland/march/OldRattray_D.abc
| 2004-04-20 15:54:19 UT
| K: D
| g fe \
| |  d2 AA GF ED | FA AB Ag fe | d2 AA GF ED | fe ef eg fe |
| |  d2 AA GF ED | GF GA  Bg fe | dA GF GB AG | F2 D2 D2 fg ||
| || ag fe d2 FA | GF GA  Bg fg | ag fe df ad | f2 e2 e2 fg |
| |  ag fe d2 FA | GF GA  Bg fe | dA GF GB AG | F2 D2 D2 |]


Hi, Steve.  Did you learn  anything  about  this  tune?   I  have  no
information at all about it.  I transcribed it a few years ago from a
printed page that someone gave me, so I could play the tune at a gig.
It was an Nth-generation copy of a printed page, but they didn't have
the book, and the page didn't have any information  about  the  book.
It's  not  in any of my books.  There are two Miss Rattray tunes, a
reel and a jig, but neither is at all like this tune.  Old Rattray is
a town in the Grampians, of course.

Anyway, if you have any info about the tune, send me a copy, and I'll
add it to the tune's header.

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Re: [scots-l] Old Rattray march

2004-04-22 Thread Steve Wyrick
Hi John; no I haven't yet found anything on this.  I have the other 2
Rattray tunes you mentioned (Miss Rattray of Dalrullzian (Jig) by Petrie,
and Miss Rattray (Reel) from the Athole collection) but this is the first
time I've encountered this one.  My interest is on behalf of a friend who
is a Rattray and is collecting tunes related to the clan for a Rattray
clan gathering in Blairgowrie this Summer.  I wonder if I'd be correct to
assume that a tune with the name Old Rattray would have to date from
after the early 1800's, when New Rattray was established?  At any rate,
I'll let you know if I come up with anything. -Steve


John Chambers said:

 Hi, Steve.  Did you learn  anything  about  this  tune?   I  have  no
 information at all about it.  I transcribed it a few years ago from a
 printed page that someone gave me, so I could play the tune at a gig.
 It was an Nth-generation copy of a printed page, but they didn't have
 the book, and the page didn't have any information  about  the  book.
 It's  not  in any of my books.  There are two Miss Rattray tunes, a
 reel and a jig, but neither is at all like this tune.  Old Rattray is
 a town in the Grampians, of course.

 Anyway, if you have any info about the tune, send me a copy, and I'll
 add it to the tune's header.

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Steve Wyrick - Concord, California
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Re: [scots-l] Old Rattray march

2004-04-22 Thread John Chambers
Steve Wyrick writes:
| Hi John; no I haven't yet found anything on this.  I have the other 2
| Rattray tunes you mentioned (Miss Rattray of Dalrullzian (Jig) by Petrie,
| and Miss Rattray (Reel) from the Athole collection) but this is the first
| time I've encountered this one.  My interest is on behalf of a friend who
| is a Rattray and is collecting tunes related to the clan for a Rattray
| clan gathering in Blairgowrie this Summer.  I wonder if I'd be correct to
| assume that a tune with the name Old Rattray would have to date from
| after the early 1800's, when New Rattray was established?  At any rate,
| I'll let you know if I come up with anything. -Steve

Yeah; that seems a likely guess.  I also wonder whether the
Old  Rattray  march  may  be a pipe tune.  As I have it, it
doesn't match the range, but folding it in the obvious  way
works  pretty  well.   It  works pretty well in A, too, and
there aren't any 7ths in the tune to worry about.  But as I
said, I have no information about it.

If you ask google about old rattray, you get a whole  lot
of  tourism references, plus some pages about tobacco, some
in German (Ein bemerkenswerter Tabak).  Nothing  about  a
tune, though.

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[scots-l] Old Rattray march

2004-04-20 Thread Steve Wyrick
I'm trying to find some information on the tune Old Rattray.  The version
below came from JC's tunefinder but I've had no luck finding anything
further.  Can anyone help me with a source, composer, etc.?  Thanks -Steve

X: 1
T: Old Rattray
R: march
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
F:http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Scotland/march/OldRattray_D.abc
2004-04-20 15:54:19 UT
K: D
g fe \
|  d2 AA GF ED | FA AB Ag fe | d2 AA GF ED | fe ef eg fe |
|  d2 AA GF ED | GF GA  Bg fe | dA GF GB AG | F2 D2 D2 fg ||
|| ag fe d2 FA | GF GA  Bg fg | ag fe df ad | f2 e2 e2 fg |
|  ag fe d2 FA | GF GA  Bg fe | dA GF GB AG | F2 D2 D2 |]

-- 
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