Re: [scots-l] music notation

2000-12-04 Thread John Chambers

Both of these illustrate my previous point, that some people  (mostly
dance  musicians  in  my experience) really like having the bar lines
and notes aligned.  Their reason is that it makes the phrasing of the
music  clearer,  which improves readability.  Meanwhile, others voice
strong objections to this on aesthetic grounds.

My conclusion would be that good music software would cater  to  both
of these disparate crowds, and make such alignment possible for those
who like it. This would be more useful than software that imposes one
group's preference on the other.

It is a bit disappointing that aesthetics and practicality seem to be
in opposition here.

Ted remarked:
| This sounds very similar to the approach taken in the two volumes of
| Irish Traditional Music published by CCE Craobh Naithi. It's some of the
| clearest notation I've encountered.

| Cynthia Cathcart wrote:
|  ... but in the book I've been working on, I adjusted the placement
|  of the pick-up notes so that my bars DO line up exactly. It's a book for
|  beginning players, and I wanted to make clear the repeated
|  patterns in some of the pieces I chose.
...
|  My point is, well, yes, the pick up notes make it a little more
|  challenging,
|  but it's easily gotten around. And I think it's worth the extra
|  effort if it makes the music clearer.

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Re: [scots-l] music notation

2000-12-03 Thread Clarsaich

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Not to mention,
 the pickup notes usually make sure the bar lines don't line up exactly
 anyway 

That's true, but in the book I've been working on, I adjusted the placement 
of the pick-up notes so that my bars DO line up exactly. It's a book for 
beginning players, and I wanted to make clear the repeated patterns in some 
of the pieces I chose. If the first stave has a pick-up, and the second stave 
does NOT, I would leave the first half-inch or so of the second stave blank, 
so that the first full bar of the second stave lines up with the first full 
bar of the first stave. 

(This would be SO MUCH easier to just show you.)

My point is, well, yes, the pick up notes make it a little more challenging, 
but it's easily gotten around. And I think it's worth the extra effort if it 
makes the music clearer.

--Cynthia Cathcart
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[scots-l] music notation

2000-12-02 Thread Kate Dunlay or David Greenberg

(my pet hate is the bar lines all above one another straight down the page!)

dance musicians usually really  appreciate  a  format  in
which   sections  and  major  phrases  start  on  a  new  staff,  and
corresponding parts of phrases  line  up  vertically
Dance musicians are usually very much aware of rhythm and
phrasing, and if this these correspond closely to the position of the
notes on the page, then keeping your place is a lot easier.

But you can have four or eight measures/bars on every line (so that the
phrases and sections are clear) and still not have the bar lines line up
exactly.  FINALE does note-spacing, so the different measures/bars are
different lengths and you can adjust them to look nice.  Not to mention,
the pickup notes usually make sure the bar lines don't line up exactly
anyway.  BTW in the pipe books I have (admittedly only a few), the bar
lines aren't all lined up the way somebody claimed they were.

- Kate D.

--
Kate Dunlay  David Greenberg
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
http://www.total.net/~dungreen


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