Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
And I wish I had a nickel for everytime someone has called me Mrs. Thompson :-) Carol THOMPKINS (who answers pretty well to Mrs. Thompson after 30 years of marriage bg) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's easy to get names mixed up when there are too many which sound the same. I wish I had a nickle for everytime someone has called me Mrs. Cartwright. Not even close. The nicest thing about visiting Scotland is people know my name! --Cynthia CATHCART Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
on 21/12/2000 4:30 am, Bruce Olson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 17/12/00 8:33:10 pm, writes: C sharpe is the bloke wot collected Scottish ballads. Oh dear! No "e" for C Sharp, and he never collected Scottish Ballads, but Confined his collecting to the south of England (mostly Somerset) and the southern Appalachians:-) He was, however, in touch with Greig and Duncan at the time when they were collecting in Aberdeenshire. Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland. I see we have Charles Kilpatrick Sharpe, Sir Cuthbert Sharp and Cecil Sharp to straighten out. There goes my name again... Bruce rightly corrects Nicholas B on the C Sharpe mis-criticism, but he's slipped a Kilpatrick in there instead of a Kirkpatrick. My Christmas card mis-addressing count is currently about 9:1 Kilpatrick verses Kirkpatrick, but getting locals NOT to call me Kirkpatrick is almost impossible. This is helped by the local paper managing the error with great consistency when reporting our folk sessions. My family's Lanarkshire (Motherwell/Wishaw/Netherton) but over here in the eastern borders the name is hardly known. 100 years before C K Sharpe's time, the two names were written freely and interchangeably and sometimes signed by the same individual twice in different ways on the same day. By the 1800s this had reduced and today the Kirkpatrick name is considered mainly associated with Closeburn (Castle) and the south Lanarkshire, Dumfries/Galloway families while Kilpatrick is associated with Lomondside, Glasgow, Clydesdale and Ulster. Cospatric, which sounds like a a variety of lettuce, is Dunbar and fallen out of use. It's easy to get names mixed up when there are too many which sound the same. I once wrote a prominent county magazine article which made Orlando Gibbons the bloke who carved the woodwork at Chatsworth, and I'm sure C K Sharpe has been credited with the invention of the bicycle more than once. David Kilpatrick Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:30:50 -0500, Bruce Olson wrote: Steve Roud's folksong index This remains a for-fee-only CD? Not online? Sigh. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - I am Abby Sale - in Orlando, Florida Boycott South Carolina! http://www.naacp.org/communications/press_releases/SCEconomic2.asp Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
on 20/12/2000 11:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 17/12/00 8:33:10 pm, writes: C sharpe is the bloke wot collected Scottish ballads. Oh dear! No "e" for C Sharp, and he never collected Scottish Ballads, but Confined his collecting to the south of England (mostly Somerset) and the southern Appalachians:-) As is pointed out in another reply, I was referring to Charles Kirkpatrick Sharpe. We've been through this one before either here or on UK Rec Folk where the same thing happened to Jack Campin when he mentioned C K Sharpe in a reply. DK Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
David Kilpatrick wrote: Bruce Olson wrote... I see we have Charles Kilpatrick Sharpe, Sir Cuthbert Sharp and Cecil Sharp to straighten out. There goes my name again... Bruce rightly corrects Nicholas B on the C Sharpe mis-criticism, but he's slipped a Kilpatrick in there instead of a Kirkpatrick. My Christmas card mis-addressing count is currently about 9:1 ... David Kilpatrick I was amazed. I've been reading it wrong for many years. Bruce Olson (not Olsen, but I've gotten used to that, too) Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw" Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's easy to get names mixed up when there are too many which sound the same. I wish I had a nickle for everytime someone has called me "Mrs. Cartwright". Not even close. The nicest thing about visiting Scotland is people know my name! --Cynthia CATHCART Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 17/12/00 8:33:10 pm, writes: C sharpe is the bloke wot collected Scottish ballads. Oh dear! No "e" for C Sharp, and he never collected Scottish Ballads, but Confined his collecting to the south of England (mostly Somerset) and the southern Appalachians:-) He was, however, in touch with Greig and Duncan at the time when they were collecting in Aberdeenshire. Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland. I see we have Charles Kilpatrick Sharpe, Sir Cuthbert Sharp and Cecil Sharp to straighten out. I don't really know if C. K. did field collecting of ballads himself, or if he got texts from others. Jack Campin might be able to tell us some things about them from his music. Where did the tune for "Annie Laurie" come from? Sir Cuthbert Sharp edited 'The Bishopric Garland', 1834 (modeled in Ritson's earlier one.) Cecil Sharp was an English collector of folk songs. The contents of all of his books and manuscripts are listed in Steve Roud's folksong index (as are all of the songs in the 1st 7 volumes of 'The Greig-Duncan Folk Song Collection'). Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw" Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
