[Scottish] Sunday Invitation to The Chateau

2004-08-26 Thread Magnus Lawrie
HIGH TEA
Sunday 29th August 4-8pm
at The Chateau, 45 Bridge Street
Em_Space - Steve Murray - Magnus Lawrie - Caroline
Campbell - Robb Mitchell - Tim Facey - Mel Wills -
Heather Lander - Kieran Daly - Clementina Fletcher
- Geraldine Greene - Jam Gray - Hannah Clinch -
Larry Elliott - Krisdy Shindler - Lynne Coffey -
Jim Ramsay - Slateford - Kes
music from la station radar
introducing...
Bastard Son Of Chateau
presents Stephanie Connelly

Chateau Institute of Technology (ChIT)
The Chateau's new computer lab comprises recycled computers running free
and open source software with broadband internet access. It has been
established with the help of members from Scottish Linux Users' Group
(ScotLUG).
Live stream http://media1.commedia.org.uk:7554/ramgen/encoder/chateau.rm
tea  cakes served
http://www.bastard-son.co.uk || http://www.chateaugateau.co.uk
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Re: [Scottish] wat courses should i take? {Scanned}

2004-08-26 Thread Andrew Calverley
Gary, 

If you need it grab the cert. If not, don't worry about it. 

Certs are only necessary when job-hunting. They are a ticket, a key
and nothing more.

But you only know if that the door is locked when you do not have the key. 

Andrew

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:26:19 +0100, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, now I am a tad worried ;)
 
 I have been involved in Unix for about 12 years now in various shapes
 and forms.
 
 I have never been on any course for any of the stuff, knowing that I
 will possibly
 a) not learn anything drastically new
 b) be in a class where i will be totally more experienced than the other
 course takers
 c) bored to death and lose interest.
 
 I am not all that keen on Linux, being a FreeBSD, Solaris fan
 
 How does one like me, attain some of these qualifications 'that is
 desireable' which the pimp will promote to get me a better position?
 
 
 -Gary
 PS: I am asking this out of curiousity, not that I am unhappy or needing
 another job..
 
 
 
 Peter George wrote:
 
  The courses look OK if you are looking for distro/vendor lock in.
 
  The high stakes vendor neutral must have cert these days is LPIC.
 
  You are more likely to see Junior System Administration jobs specifying at least 
  LPIC1 these days than RedHat or SuSE certification IMHO. Unfortunately, there are 
  no reputable (LATP) UK based courses, yet ;-)
 
  HTH
 
  P
 
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  Training Manager
  Net Resources Ltd
  26 Palmerston Place, Edinburgh, EH12 5AL
  T: 0131 477 7127  F: 0131 477 7126
  http://www.netresources.co.uk
 
 
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Re: [Scottish] wat courses should i take? {Scanned}

2004-08-26 Thread William Anderson
Andrew Calverley wrote:
If you need it grab the cert. If not, don't worry about it. 

Certs are only necessary when job-hunting. They are a ticket, a key
and nothing more.
But you only know if that the door is locked when you do not have the key. 
fwiw, the job I've just started here at Lumison (née edNET) specified LPIC 
2, but my LPIC 1 plus 10+ years experience got me the job.  Also, I sat no 
training courses for my two LPIC exams, I just turned up and passed.  I 
suspect I'd perform favourably for the LPIC 2 exams simply due to my 
experience - note that I'm not saying I'd definitely pass 100%, just that I 
reckon I'd do OK :)

If any company rejects a job applicant out of hand who looks suitable bar 
the fact they haven't got a piece of paper saying they or an employer spent 
£££ on exams, IMO they need a bit of a slap.

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RE: [Scottish] wat courses should i take? {Scanned}

2004-08-26 Thread Peter George

Well, the easiest way would be to just sit the LPI exams at a local exam lab. With 12 
years experience you should be in the pass zone, and they a pretty cheap to take.

We'll be running another lab with LPI shortly (just building a better exam booking 
system for it right now), exams will cost £50 per paper.

Background information and objectives here: http://www.lpi.org/en/lpic.html

We'll be offering LPIC1 courses later this year, but to be honest, if you haven't been 
working as a Junior Sysadmin for several years, a course will not enable you to pass 
the exams, there's too much material at too deep a level, nothing counts more than 
experience when it comes to these papers, and that's why they are increasingly valued 
by employers.

HTH

Regards,

P



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Training Manager
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26 Palmerston Place, Edinburgh, EH12 5AL
T: 0131 477 7127  F: 0131 477 7126
http://www.netresources.co.uk

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
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Subject: Re: [Scottish] wat courses should i take? {Scanned}

Ok, now I am a tad worried ;)

I have been involved in Unix for about 12 years now in various shapes 
and forms.

I have never been on any course for any of the stuff, knowing that I 
will possibly
a) not learn anything drastically new
b) be in a class where i will be totally more experienced than the other 
course takers
c) bored to death and lose interest.

I am not all that keen on Linux, being a FreeBSD, Solaris fan

How does one like me, attain some of these qualifications 'that is 
desireable' which the pimp will promote to get me a better position?


-Gary
PS: I am asking this out of curiousity, not that I am unhappy or needing 
another job..

Peter George wrote:

 The courses look OK if you are looking for distro/vendor lock in. 
 
 The high stakes vendor neutral must have cert these days is LPIC. 
 
 You are more likely to see Junior System Administration jobs specifying at least 
 LPIC1 these days than RedHat or SuSE certification IMHO. Unfortunately, there are no 
 reputable (LATP) UK based courses, yet ;-)
 
 HTH
 
 P
 
 --
 Peter George CIW CI
 Training Manager
 Net Resources Ltd
 26 Palmerston Place, Edinburgh, EH12 5AL
 T: 0131 477 7127  F: 0131 477 7126
 http://www.netresources.co.uk
 


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