Re: [Scottish] OT: Desperately seeking Claris

2004-11-28 Thread Colin McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 22:24, Andy Potter wrote:
> Colin,
>
>  I have a couple of different versions of ClarisWorks on CD's. Shall bring
> some with me on Thursday if I can find them.
>
> AndyP
>

Thanks Andy - Willie found some old floppies that I eventually managed to get 
an installation from. (Can't get it to run under Wine though!)

C.

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Re: [Scottish] Re: [edlug] Linux training, Chateau projects

2004-11-28 Thread Andy McKay
Andrew Back wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Tim Day wrote:
 

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 14:04, Magnus Lawrie wrote:
   

Currently there are several recycled machines running Ubuntu. There is a
DHCP server (floppy distro) and a broadband connection. I want to
develop things further: introduce a web server, DMZ, maybe some greater
network transparency and at least one machine running video editing
software. A wireless node would also be a good addition.
 

What kind of broadband connection were you planning on getting ?
If it's ADSL you'll probably have ~250Kbit/s upsteam maximum (don't know
about cable).  If you're going to have your users putting videos they've
created on your web server and inviting the rest of the world to view
them... well, the rest of the world may find itself waiting a long time
for your stuff to download.  A better option IMHO might be to rent an
offsite (virtual) server which will have much better connectivity.
Maybe you can get a good deal for a community/charity/non-profit type
organization  (seem to remember some previous discussion on the list
mentioning a local ISP) ?
   

Your right it's ADSL, so not that much bandwidth outbound, and I don't
think Magnus has any plans to distribute video via the link. They have
access to (external) streaming servers so they can farm out
redistribution if they stream. A DMZ for them would be good for,
* Learning setting up/hosting of services
* Hosting content with low bandwidth requirements, for which ~250Kbps will
be more than enough, it's not that long since people ran servers off
similar sized or smaller kilostream/frame services at great cost. This
would be fine for low access stuff (home pages and the likes).
* An 'extranet'. Giving access to application resources at the chateau
from remote locations, e.g. wiki, forums, mailing lists, project
management apps.
And if they do want to host media files this could prove costly in terms
of transfer charges at a colo, so may have no option other than
DSL-hosting.
Of course if someone can offer free/cheap external hosting that would be
great
if the people at the chateau need exernal hosting i may be abble to help 
them by providing access to a 2Mbit link (soon to become 4Mbit) if they 
could provide their own hardware (i may be able to provide hardware but 
am not sure). If you would like more information please mail me off list 
lonewolff at lonewolff dot info

Regarding wireless they have,
http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm
And just need it loading with Linux/LEAF/FreeBSD/monowall/.. Well, plus a
WLAN card pigtail making and possibly PoE injector.
Andrew
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Re: [Scottish] Re: [edlug] Linux training, Chateau projects

2004-11-28 Thread Andrew Back
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Tim Day wrote:

> On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 14:04, Magnus Lawrie wrote:
> > Currently there are several recycled machines running Ubuntu. There is a
> > DHCP server (floppy distro) and a broadband connection. I want to
> > develop things further: introduce a web server, DMZ, maybe some greater
> > network transparency and at least one machine running video editing
> > software. A wireless node would also be a good addition.
>
> What kind of broadband connection were you planning on getting ?
> If it's ADSL you'll probably have ~250Kbit/s upsteam maximum (don't know
> about cable).  If you're going to have your users putting videos they've
> created on your web server and inviting the rest of the world to view
> them... well, the rest of the world may find itself waiting a long time
> for your stuff to download.  A better option IMHO might be to rent an
> offsite (virtual) server which will have much better connectivity.
> Maybe you can get a good deal for a community/charity/non-profit type
> organization  (seem to remember some previous discussion on the list
> mentioning a local ISP) ?

Your right it's ADSL, so not that much bandwidth outbound, and I don't
think Magnus has any plans to distribute video via the link. They have
access to (external) streaming servers so they can farm out
redistribution if they stream. A DMZ for them would be good for,

* Learning setting up/hosting of services
* Hosting content with low bandwidth requirements, for which ~250Kbps will
be more than enough, it's not that long since people ran servers off
similar sized or smaller kilostream/frame services at great cost. This
would be fine for low access stuff (home pages and the likes).
* An 'extranet'. Giving access to application resources at the chateau
from remote locations, e.g. wiki, forums, mailing lists, project
management apps.

And if they do want to host media files this could prove costly in terms
of transfer charges at a colo, so may have no option other than
DSL-hosting.

Of course if someone can offer free/cheap external hosting that would be
great.

Regarding wireless they have,

http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm

And just need it loading with Linux/LEAF/FreeBSD/monowall/.. Well, plus a
WLAN card pigtail making and possibly PoE injector.

Andrew

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