Re: [Scottish] Jotismland
Not only is this off-topic, but... dude, you're 16! Go research girls, alcohol, and music! On 07/12/11 12:23, m...@johnthomson.me.uk wrote: Hi, I'm just wanting to mention a project I'm working on at the moment. Basically I'm working on an economic/political theory (based on communism/Marxism), where everyone is essentially free to do as they please (very few laws, though they can be made through a directly democratic system). There are more details at: http://www.johnthomson.me.uk/jotism It might be worth reading the An introduction to Jotism v2., as it goes into some detail about Jotism and how Jotismland will be run. Basically I'm looking for people who can help add to the document, and more importantly, volunteer to help start up Jotismland. I'm going to be in Edinburgh on the 29th December, if anyone wants to meet up with me just reply to this, I think (sorry, first time emailing to a mailing list lol). Thanks, John Thomson, JOT. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] 19 rack, free to whoever wants to pick it up
On 24/08/11 21:10, Aidan Skinner wrote: Hi, I've got a 19 rack, in good condition, doors, shelf, ceiling fans that have never been wired up but I think will work, going free to whoever wants to collect it from my ground floor flat in Partick. - Aidan ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish If it's still available, can I collect on Saturday? Cheers Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Open Data in Scotland
Just discovered this handy website http://openlylocal.com/councils/open?country=Scotland So, where and how do we go about persuading councils to change their ways? Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] wiki
Hi Andrew, I see pickle has already given you access. Wiki edit permissions are granted manually due to spam, and I see Chris has also written up http://www.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Wiki_edit_permissions Hope this helps. Kyle On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 17:19 +, Andrew Johnston wrote: Just a quick question (this might make me sound a bit silly) - do I have to ask directly to get edit access to the ScotLUG wiki? I'd like to add orklug-related stuff to it (primarily a link from the Other Scottish LUGs page) but I'm not allowed to edit it as I'm not a member of the group scotlug according to MediaWiki. Is this to prevent 'new user' spam, and, if so, could it be made clearer on the ScotLUG site how you're supposed to gain edit access? (and, obviously, if you're supposed to ask first: can I - User:Aorkwa - be given edit access?) Thanks, ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] welcome tibetan linux
p...@robaczki.net wrote: Hello! Welcome! I'm enthusiast like open source software and try to use it as much as you do. I’m not in Scotland now but I used to lived in Edinburgh and was a online member of Edlug. I probably have to move to Glasgow in three months time so I feel like a member of Scottish lug. Anyway I’m in small village in Yunnan province, Upper Yangtze, (China) right now and doing volunteering job in a Tibetan school http://tibetanflowers.org/home/index.htm . I want to install Linux in Tibetan language so I chosen the mighty ;) Dzongkha Linux dzongkha.sourceforge.net but the problem is that the iso is in size of CD so I burn it as cd. When I came here yesterday I found out that computers have DVD drives only. Is it ok if I burn the 625 MB iso on DVD instead of CD. I think so but not sure. I go to the town in two weeks time to buy DVDs so there is no rush to replay .. I also got Debian DVD so I thought I could change input from English to Tibetan but never done it and plus I don't know if I could get all application like Totem, gaim and so on in Tibetan. I'm happy to learn more C and develop Dzongkha Linux if that's not too much for amateur like me. Any suggestions. Cheers ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Hi Pk Good to hear of the work you're doing! A DVD drive can read a CD with no problems. So if you buy CDs, you can burn the 625MB ISO and it will still work in a DVD drive. I'm pretty sure that all DVD drives can read CDs, but someone will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong :-) I've never changed the language during a Debian install, so can't help there. Sorry! Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Meeting tonight?
Callum Noble wrote: I've not been along for a few months so not sure whats happening at the moment... Is there a talk tonight or are people just going to meeting at pub? ~ Callum ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish After pestering in IRC, there is apparently no talk this month. Maybe someone should've replied to Ferdinand after his kind offer a talk over a month ago... Good luck, folks Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] This Thursday's Meeting
Hi Phil, That sounds fab, many thanks for volunteering. There's no other talk lined up, so you get center stage :-) See you there Kyle Philip Nelson wrote: As discussed on the forum, I will be coming along and if no one else has any better ideas I can give the talk I gave recently at a database conference in Berlin - https://www-951.ibm.com/blogs/iod2009_sessions/entry/tsb1985 It isn't too scarily commercial : mostly examples of real world XML usage and how to use the (standards based) SQL/XML, XPath and XQuery. My examples run on DB2 (the Flowers bit of this free DB2 Express-C on Linux). If there is another talk planned I'm willing to sit and listen. But if no-one has anything better to offer I can do this. Let me know. Phil ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] May talk
Just a reminder that Mays talk will be tomorrow in the usual place. Same time, same place, different date. I've attached the original email for reference. Cheers Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] May talk
Of course... the list strips attachments. Here's an inline copy instead. Original Message Subject:[Scottish] May 2009 talk schedule Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:53:41 +0100 From: Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com Reply-To: SLUG-list scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk To: SLUG-list scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Afternoon all, The talk due for May will be held on the 4th June instead. Yep, you read that right, the 4th of June 2009. Our speaker, Gavin Henry, is unable to make May 28th and has very kindly offered to come through on 4th June instead. Same place, same time. You now have had plenty of notice, so there's no excuse :-) What you all choose to do on 28th May is up for discussion. Chat? QA? Pub? Cheers Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Kyle Gordon wrote: Just a reminder that Mays talk will be tomorrow in the usual place. Same time, same place, different date. I've attached the original email for reference. Cheers Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] April Meeting
If there's any takers to do a talk this month, then it would be greatly appreciated. Gavin Henry told me ages ago that he couldn't really do April, and I failed to update things and let everyone know. If not, then I guess it's straight to the pub (which you can do any day of the week...) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [JOBS] [Fwd: RE: linux edinburgh]
This may be of interest to some people. Salary is £35k and just outside Edinburgh. Original Message Subject:RE: linux edinburgh Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:34:28 +0100 From: Freddie Kydd freddie.k...@search.co.uk To: Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com References: 43a07a19725130428605b1679728054801ea3...@exchange.corp.search.co.uk 49d3a2dd.5060...@lodge.glasgownet.com Kyle No problem, hectic here as well, I've pasted into this e-mail with my contact details, if anyone is interested get them to call me. Summary This is a wide-ranging role supporting the computer systems used by a small software development team. Additional support for remote sites and remote installations will also be a part of the successful candidate's responsibilities. Job Description This role covers: * Basic hardware maintenance for a Linux server farm and desktop machines * Operating system and software installation * Support for both engineering and non-engineering users including the introduction and updating of engineers tooling. * Diagnosing and fixing general systems problems * Maintenance and testing of backup systems * Communications links Required Qualifications and Skills * Experience of Linux or UNIX, including shell scripts * Motivation to work independently * Willingness to learn new skills Desirable Skills * Scripting/programming ability in BASH, Python, JAVA Regards Freddie Kydd IT Consultant Search Consultancy Limited 9 St Colme Street Edinburgh EH3 6AA D/L Tel: +44 (0)131 718 8056 Fax: +44 (0)131 718 8001 email: freddie.k...@search.co.uk web: www.searchconsultancy.co.uk view company presentation: http://www.searchconsultancy.co.uk/content/popupFlash.htm Sunday Times Best 100 Companies to Work For 2008 - placed 49th Scottish Recruitment Awards 2008 - Winner - Large Agency of the Year and Recruitment Team of the Year NORA 2007 - Winner - Best National Recruitment Agency Website Recruiter Awards 2008 - Winner - Best Recruitment Firm Website P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail or its attachment(s) -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] February talk
This months talk will be by Arek Turlewicz, and is titled Nagios Monitoring It will be held at 1930 on Thursday 26th February 2009, in Livingstone Tower. Prior to that, some members may be found in the South West corner of the Counting House with food and drink. At 2100, we will most likely head back to the Counting House Sorry for the rather late posting of this update. I hope someone else can do it more effectively in future. Regards Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Listadmin job available
From the end of this month onwards, I am unwilling to maintain the mailing list. Could a volunteer please come forward and assume the position... The job involves minor amounts of spam purging, and the occasional passing of a post from members who have posted from the wrong address. Cheers Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Listadmin job available
I will be. Hope others do too :-) Kyle Thomas Greer wrote: Gee thanks :) :P Going tonight? 2009/2/26 Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com: Kyle Gordon wrote: From the end of this month onwards, I am unwilling to maintain the mailing list. Could a volunteer please come forward and assume the position... The job involves minor amounts of spam purging, and the occasional passing of a post from members who have posted from the wrong address. Cheers Kyle First past the post is Thomas Greer. Many thanks for taking up the role Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Upcoming meetings
Just so you've all had some prior notice... February 26th - Arkadiusz Turlewicz will be doing a talk on Nagios Monitoring. Some of you may remember this talk from EdLUG. March 27th - Speed talks, also stolen from the EdLUG format. 5 minutes apeice on your favourite website, software, gadget, etc April 30th - A speaker has been pestered, and is off to check availability. Will be announced shortly. If anyone else cares to do a talk, or knows someone who would be willing, then get in touch. Anything from companies in Glasgow that have deployed Linux, to people using Linux in their dorm room. We take all and sundry :-) Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Scotlug Meeting on Thursday Jan 29th?
Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 18:31 +, jb_1...@ntlworld.com wrote: Does anyone know what's happening at the meeting on Thursday - is it a pub night, or is there a speaker? The web site just says there's a meeting, no more details given. We're watching bigkev apologise to neuro_ for kickbanning him for his comment about the job posting. Actions by everyone involved were juvenile and unwarranted. Both people in question have unsubbed from this list on their own accord. Any further discussion, slagging, etc, will result in the listadmin unsubbing the offender(s). There have been several good talks in the past months, and we've all been busy with Christmas and New Year. I don't know what's on the schedule, but Kevin may have an update on the new website that is apparently due to go live in a month or two. If more than 10 people turned up at the November meet, they would know that. I can't make it this month as I'm out the country. Hope it all goes well. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] November meet
Is there a talk this month, or any form of meet? Also, what's happening for December? Last Thursday of the month is Christmas Day. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] November meet
William Anderson wrote: Alex Walker wrote: Paintballing in Clifton House. I'd happily tactically nuke Clifton House, so that sounds fun :) -n The builders are making a good enough job of ruining it anyway. Let me know before you do it though. Got a few folks I'd like to get out of there first :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Talk
Is there one this month? ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Talk
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 13:31, William Anderson wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: Is there one this month? You mean you're not doing one? :) -n Correct. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Is my computer now a spam bot?!! (Help!)
On Sunday 20 July 2008 20:33:06 babaguy wrote: Hello All - I opened up my myway inbox just now and saw to my horror a message apparently sent out by MY e-mail address - e.g. babaguy 'at' myway dot com and the subject line on the e-mail is something like 'Angelina Jolie XXX video...' I have a mac now, and no anti-virus software as everyone seemed to think 'Oh, it'll be all right - there aren't many viruses for macs...' etc. Have I been spam-bot'ed? If I characterise the message as spam I won't be able to receive any messages I send myself (to include attachements, etc. so I can print them later, elsewhere) Probably time to scrap myway, anyway... Any thoughts from any of you? Help would be greatly appreciated. Yours apprehensively, - Paul B. Check the headers. It's quite possible you've just been joe-jobbed, where spam is sent out with your address as the return address. It's also possible the spammer is just a clown that sets the return address to be the same as the recipient address for every bit of mail (s)he sends. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Fraudulent Internet use of my debit card
On Thursday 17 July 2008 10:23, William Anderson wrote: John Gordon Ollason wrote: I suppose it's inevitable, but my bank statement came back this month and somebody had spent £3000 of my money purchasing stuff on my debit card using the Internet. In the last 6 months the only other purchase I made on the Internet was to Amazon UK. What is the likelihood that I have picked up malicious javascript or whatever? If you've *only* bought stuff from amazon with this card, something is afoot at amazon. I find both those deductions to be unlikely. If you've bought stuff with the card in person from shops as well as buying stuff from amazon (more likely), your card has been skimmed or cloned, likely by an uberdodgy person behind a till somewhere. Internet purchasing fraud doesn't necessarily involve you feeding your card number into a website, just the use of your card number and not by you; the theft can begin at a bricks and mortar point of sale too. -n ^ Wot he sez Anything you order over the phone as well could in theory be duplicated. It's just another Cardholder Not Present transaction. Talk to the bank, find out when the spending started. You may be able to narrow it down to Daft Thing You Bought Over the Phone(tm) several months ago. Another thing to watch is those card terminals you have to punch your PIN number into. Apart from the fact that they can be compromised in an amazingly short time, merchants love nothing more than to take your card away and swipe it through the machine themselves 'for your convenience'. Recently Charlotte bought a curry on her card, and dutifully checked over the machine before entering her number. As soon as the machine said Approved the merchant took the machine and card out of her hands and into the back shop for 5 minutes - with no explanation. The card was cancelled within 10 minutes, and hopefully the merchant now has a black mark against him. No doubt sjmurdoch will be able to elaborate on why we even have a banking system that allows this kind of practice. Cheers Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hard Disk Storage Array going abegging...
Hey Ian, Can I grab it if it's still available? Cheers Kyle On Tuesday 10 June 2008 21:10:28 Ian Henery wrote: Hullo Linux Users, I've got a Sun Storedge D1000 storage array with 6 of 72 GB SCSI hot-swap disks in it. No idea if it works or not (was sold to me as working, but haven't verified this). Free to the first person who says they want it (but you'll need to collect it from my flat in Scotstoun, west side of Glasgow). It is a rather noisy beast, by the way, not for a quiet domestic environment! Ian Henery PS I was at a few LUG meetings a few years back (very enjoyable) but have quietly lurked since then... PPS Sincere apologies to the moderator - I tried posting this, but with my other (non-SLUG list) email address. Hopefully it's okay this time... ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Sale: SCSI Cards
Righto, rather than hanging onto them and watching them gather dust, I thought some folks might be interested. One of each... Adaptec 19160 32bit SCSI card - £15 Adaptec 29160 64bit SCSI card - £35 Both are fully functioning, and come with cables. They were both powering some drives up until about half an hour ago. I'll even throw the 3 18GB or 2 32GB drives if you like. They'll be put on Ebay if nobody is interested. Cheers Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] May Meeting[Scanned]
Good stuff. I'll be there from 1900 probably It's usually Level 13, Room L13.18 (spot the pattern). But it will be signposted from the main door of Livvy Tower. Kyle On Thursday 29 May 2008 16:59, Matt Causey wrote: OKwell I'm stuck at work so won't make it to the counting house in time...but will make it to the university by 1930 I hope. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Tim Brocklehurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, I would think there'd be a few of us meeting at the Counting house first (I'll try to get there at about 6pm (red shirt, white trousers suit jacket)). For more detail, I think there's a map on the Scotlug site (somewhere). Cheers, Tim B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Causey Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:33 PM To: SLUG-list Subject: Re: [Scottish] May Meeting[Scanned] Hello, I am new to the area, and would like to visit the meeting. Where is Livingston Tower? On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's that time of the month again, and the meeting is almost upon us. This month Rob Lazzurs is doing A tutorial on Cobbler and related tools Regular place, Livingston Tower, at the regular time, 1930. More details are available at http://www.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Meetings Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner
Well, Mr Kenny I don't see your name on the Groupsales page. Tut tut :-) Kyle On Thursday 29 May 2008 16:38, Kenny Duffus wrote: i'm definitly going to get one Kenny - Original Message - From: Sean Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SLUG-list scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:13 +0100, Andrew Back wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2008, Sean Anderson wrote: SNIP Yes, but of course you must remember that cellphones were originally invented to allow the CIA, the NSA, or indeed the masons (because they're the same thing, really) to keep track of the population; why do you think phones became so cheap and easy to come by? The government controls the airwaves. The government controls your phone. Never forget this. Yes, that is why I wrap my mobile in baking foil and never use the same SIM more than once. Andrew (or am I...) *buries phone in a pile of molten steel* AHA! Now no one can use their evil rays to track the location of my device, sending and receiving data.. Oh, wait... Watch out for the MiB, Sean. P.S. So to take this thread back on-topic, who else in the Glasgow/Edinburgh locus is interested in a bulk purchase of Neos in the near future? Are there enough? ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] May Meeting
It's that time of the month again, and the meeting is almost upon us. This month Rob Lazzurs is doing A tutorial on Cobbler and related tools Regular place, Livingston Tower, at the regular time, 1930. More details are available at http://www.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Meetings Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Freebies
Free to a good home... First reply first served. 1 HP4000N printer. After many years of sterling service, the fuser has decided to wear out. Still usable, but not for business printouts. Comes with 3 spare (new) pickup rollers. 1 Dell GX240. Last seen working, with HD and CD. Keyboard and mouse available on request. Pickup from Yoker before Sunday 1st June, or notify and collect from ScotLUG meet on Thursday 29th May. Cheers Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] {Announcement} Safesquid Version 4.2.2.RC8.2 released
shinde wrote: Hello friends, SafeSquid, Linux based Content Filtering Internet Proxy, Version 4.2.2.RC8.2 has been released. Bugger I meant to discard this message during moderation! I chose the option to discard all from this sender in future, but clearly screwed up the action for the current mail. Sorry for this Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Two talks with demonstrations, EdLUG 5th June
Dan Shearer wrote: Alastair Bennett: Open Source Hardware -- Over the last decade the Open Source concept has been paralleled in hardware. Not as much and not as fast, but with visible success. Skipping the boring definitions, I will briefly run through three projects that to illustrate what is available today: * RepRap 3D printer * OpenMoko mobile phones * Ardunio microcontroller board For a grand finale I will do a demo of an Ardunio board doing something, at the very least being waved around by me. Out of curiosity, will there be demo hardware of the above? Cheers Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] IMAP Server
Andrew Barber wrote: Hey guys,I am just looking for a couple of suggestions on good IMAP Server software. We was looking over DOVECOT recently, but just wondered what you guys thought of that and others that are out there. Thanks :) Dovecot rocks. It's been surprisingly stable (even before v1), handles large maildirs nicely, has plenty of pluggable auth systems, and generally just does what it should. I recently had a review (can't find the url now), that compared dovecot, uw-imap and courier in terms of performance, and dovecot came out a clear winner. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] new ScotLUG website
Claudio Calvelli wrote: Following on from last night's discussions, I'm keen to push things forward before the enthusiasm dims... I've created a Launchpad team (and project) at https://launchpad.net/~scotlug If you're interested in the project at all, then please join the team. How do you I that? It lets me register, but not log in. And yes, I did type the correct password. I hope the new website won't be that broken. C I put some documentation together for this task over here... http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/join_team.png :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] new ScotLUG website
Claudio Calvelli wrote: I wrote: How do you I that? It lets me register, but not log in. Kyle Gordon: I put some documentation together for this task over here... http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/join_team.png Most useless, thank you. That just tells me to log in, but the login is the bit which doesn't work. C Glad to be of assistance :-) Maybe the Launchpad website is waiting on some form of moderation or email approval? It's been so long since I signed up originally Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: News Letter April 08
tldr John Seago wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 12:15:07 Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting worked just fine in that context due to the reply not addressing any part of the post in particular. To criticise the volume of the original post, (as posted in the digest), and then to include the original post in its entirety, seems somewhat perverse, would you not agree? Perhaps the suggestion that it might be an idea to have a digest / list of contents at the top of such mail-outs, would have sufficed. The part that you quote isn't even in the email that Andrew replied to, and is only present in the digest version that you subscribe to. Here is the material written by Andrew Back in the Email to the Scottish list I can only speak for myself here, but must say that whilst curious as to what you guys had organised, I started to lose the will to live as I paged down. So it might be an idea to have a digest / list of contents at the top of such mail-outs. So that folks can quickly see if there is anything that is of interest to them and then read on if so. The voluminous monolithic blocks of text approach I find a bit overbearing! I quoted only the last sentence of the paragraph, I cannot see any difference between the post, (threaded), to the Scottish list, and the post to the Digest of the Scottish list. Might it be that you are referring to the subject line? The point remains that complaints that voluminous monolithic blocks of text are found to be overbearing, and that they further cause a loss of will to live, lose their impact when made above, voluminous monolithic blocks of text. Or could it be that Andrew Back, whilst intending to edit the material he was replying to, forgot to do so? Mayhap he will enlighten us. As to the differences between the threaded list and the digest, one takes that that meets ones needs. Whilst the following apply more to usenet http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html they might perhaps be considered as examples of 'good practice' as editing quoted material does prevent successive posts getting longer and longer when the entirety of each previous post is quoted, would you not agree? ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: News Letter April 08
John Seago wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 Andrew Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The voluminous monolithic blocks of text approach I find a bit overbearing! As criticism it lost some of its impact when you top-posted the above, over a quote of the whole of the post to which it refered. Whilst at the same time ignoring this request,When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Scottish digest Top posting worked just fine in that context due to the reply not addressing any part of the post in particular. Also, he replied to the individual email thus keeping the subject line just as it should be. It is yourself that has replied incorrectly. The part that you quote isn't even in the email that Andrew replied to, and is only present in the digest version that you subscribe to. I would suggest looking at the archives at http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/scottish/2008-April/thread.html to see how message threading is seen by those that subscribe to individual messages. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Scottish Digest, Vol 209, Issue 3
The quoted text is irrelevant to the content of the reply, but is relevant to the style of the email. You don't have to read the original to understand the reply :-) Kyle On Friday 11 April 2008 10:01:09 Roland Ward wrote: Ha! So you find it hard to read two pages of email from someone else then quote the email in its entirety in reply - I smell hypocrisy ;-) Hi Aaron, I can only speak for myself here, but must say that whilst curious as to what you guys had organised, I started to lose the will to live as I paged down. So it might be an idea to have a digest / list of contents at the top of such mail-outs. So that folks can quickly see if there is anything that is of interest to them and then read on if so. The voluminous monolithic blocks of text approach I find a bit overbearing! Cheers, Andrew Andrew Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Arron M Finnon wrote: The UAD Linux Users Society - Dundee News Letter April 08 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Photo from one month ago...
William Anderson wrote: Claudio Calvelli wrote: I was reminded at the meeting last night that I never posted anywhere a dodgy photo I've taken at the 10th anniversary meeting, so here it is... http://www.intercal.ukfsn.org/scotlug.jpg People who were there have already seen it on my camera's LCD. Bastard. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish fap fap fap ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Linux consultancy quote-o-matics at the ready
Afternoon all, We're on the lookout for someone that can provide a day (extended as required) of emergency cover for some SLES servers, over a 3 week period starting 21st March. Kit is predominantly DL380s running SLES 10.1 or SLES9.3, some with Oracle 10G and one with VMWare server, and all running Bacula to some LTO3 units. All this is based in central Glasgow. If you can provide quotes, SLAs, etc to myself that would be greatly appreciated. Repeated calls to 'catch up' on the status of the quotes lose brownie-points. Cheers Kyle Kyle Gordon Network Administrator NHS Education for Scotland (West Region) -- This correspondence is intended for the named recipient. If it is received or accessed by any individual or organisation other than stated, the recipient must treat the information contained in the correspondence as confidential and dispose of it appropriately. As a public body, NHS Education for Scotland may be required to make available emails as well as other written forms of information as a result of a request made under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. -- BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Kyle Gordon TEL;WORK:0141 352 2822 ORG:;IT Department TEL;PREF;FAX:0141 352 2801 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:[EMAIL PROTECTED] N:Gordon;Kyle TITLE:Network Administrator END:VCARD ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] free hub
It's all yours. See you there :-) Kyle On Wednesday 27 February 2008 15:05, Alex Walker wrote: If no one else has bagsied it, I'll take it. It would be a shame for it to be binned, plus I'm sure it will come in useful. Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morning all, I have a lovely EN104 10Meg Netgear hub and PSU going free to a good home. First come first serve, and I'll bring it along on Thursday. No takers by then, and it gets binned. Ta Kyle - -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxI3pl4cZwpbv7iIRAu8SAJ9Sd5k6eeqnbqMrizMhDiJLeSZKyACfZxNQ VjN735zPQZ6LtgkO1iLuGrQ= =PClO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Drupal and the society.......
On Monday 25 February 2008 16:53:30 Kevin McDermott wrote: Hi Arron, Well the point being we don't send all our news to this mailing list. We post about 300 to 400 posts per month on our Dundee list, i send like four emails maybe five emails. We have members on our list from Canada, and America, who are just as welcome as if they lived in Lochee, or Newfoundland. The fact that we are made up of half students and half non students (so take those student members that only live in Dundee term time, and come from all over Scotland) we go a long way to try and promote Linux across Scotland It maybe my way of thinking but i thought we where an open community, if i have upset some of you guys for sending you emails about meeting times for Dundee, that i've always made a point of inviting people from this list to, then i apologise. You're more than welcome to continue to send announcements to the Scotlug list. thanks Kevin In fact, please do keep sending items to the list. It's the only way we seem to get any discussion going :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] free hub
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morning all, I have a lovely EN104 10Meg Netgear hub and PSU going free to a good home. First come first serve, and I'll bring it along on Thursday. No takers by then, and it gets binned. Ta Kyle - -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxI3pl4cZwpbv7iIRAu8SAJ9Sd5k6eeqnbqMrizMhDiJLeSZKyACfZxNQ VjN735zPQZ6LtgkO1iLuGrQ= =PClO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Drupal and the society.......
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:52, Willie Fleming wrote: Do we draw the line north or south of Berwick? --- Best Regards Willie Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 24 February 2008 13:59:03 Kevin McDermott wrote: Hi, I think this has gone to the wrong list. Sorry to be a prick (it's my default state these days it seems), but why are we getting lots of messages to the scotlug list about dundee? As far as I'm aware Dundee is in Scotland, so...I can see no problem with it. Kevin Depends if you want to draw it at the top or the bottom... Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] OpenStreetMap Meetup
On Sunday 17 February 2008 11:04:26 Callum Noble wrote: Hey ScotLUGers, There has been some talk on the OpenStreetMap talk-gb mailing list and IRC of a pub meet for central Scotland mappers to put some names to faces that you have seen on the map. I know there are quite a few folk here involved with OSM so I thought I'd post a note to the list. Plan is for Monday 25th February from around 7pm at the Counting House: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.86101lon=-4.25179zoom=17layers=0BFT Details on Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Scotland Count me in Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] USB Audio
Dear collective... Sadly I am in need of a USB Audio 'card' that is Linux compatible. Reasonable sound and preferably 5.1 channels are preferred. Is anyone able to advise on such a device. Host machine will be Ubuntu, but I am not averse to compiling modules and suchlike, as long as it will work with minimal faffing. Cheers muchly Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] several linux problems
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 14:22:23 Richard Wright wrote: Hi, I've got a few problems I was wondering if anyone could help with? The hardware is a toshiba laptop from 2000 with 1.2ghz, 512m ram, 20gb hdd, a dial up pci card and a lan card. OS is slackware 11. The ctrl key doesn't work, so I'm sending it off to get fixed before I sort anything else. 1)Connecting to the internet I've successfully installed linux a number of times now, but I'm not sure how to get it hooked up to the intenet. There are several internet access points I can use: a) A dial up connection at my parents home. Forget dialup. You'll regret it if you choose this method. b) ADSL at the university (will probably require legit login ID) Speak to Network Services at the uni for login details c) A wi-fi connection in my flat from my neighbours. May be encrypted. If they give you the password, then you're onto a winner. I do want to get internet access in my own flat, but BT want £120 from me first. Before I do that, I want to make sure I know how connect to the net. 2)Connection hardware I'm also going to buy a new wi-fi card so I can use my laptop anywhere there is a wireless network, and I wondered if anyone knows of a good generic linux compatible wireless card that comes with required drivers if necessary. Something compatible may be found at http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlistcat29.html. As with any hardware purchase, a significant amount of googling and general research should ensure that you find a card that works nicely with Linux. 3)Kernel configuration A lot of the hardware doesn't seem to register on linux. Specifically the internal dial up modem doesn't seem to register. This may be because the kernel is not properly configured. I've had a go at kernel configuration, using a menu, but most of the options are not intuitively named. I'm looking at the linux kernel which is good theory, but it doesn't directly solve the problem at hand. See above about forgetting dialup. Lucent modems, and generic laptop modems, are renowned for being either crap, or unusable in anything other than Windows. The priority is to connect to the internet. If I can do that, then a lot of other problems are more easily solved. = Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Cheap camera
For a small project of mine... Is anyone able to recommend a sub £100 pocket digital camera? Must be fairly easy to use, and moderately robust. Ta muchly Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [Fwd: [ScotLUG Info] Wanted: Free Software resources for all families and schools]
Original Message Subject: [ScotLUG Info] Wanted: Free Software resources for all families and schools Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:23:44 +0200 From: Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED], Point of contact address for ScotLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, I am a freelance writer specialized in FOSS topics, Contributing editor of Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/corporate/staff/Marco) and member of the OpenDocument Fellowship. I'd like to let you know about a new personal initiative of mine, which will hopefully make lots of parents and teachers understand why they cannot ignore FOSS and Free Culture anymore in the interest of their own children. I am going to publish on the Digifreedom website: * a directory of Digitally Free Schools, that all parents may check when choosing a new school for their children. http://digifreedom.net/node/55 * one of bad public websites, http://digifreedom.net/node/76 * one of Trashware organizations, http://digifreedom.net/node/92 * a list of examples of Bad ICT information, that is links to article from mainstream press or websites which have no clue of what Free Software actually is, so all parents and other non-hackers can learn to recognize them. * forums on Digitally Free School and Digitally Free Families: http://digifreedom.net/forum/30 where all citizens concerned about the attacks on the Digital Freedom of their schools or families can work together to protect it. All these are and will always remain absolutely free services to the whole community: I hope to make of these databases something that all parents and teachers, especially those who know nothing or very little about software, will be able to use to do the right choices in the best interest of their children's education and of their own civil rights. The reason why I am writing is only to let your LUG know that I always welcome any submission to any of those databases (the more the better), either through the forums above or via direct email. Obviously, should you find it appropriate, you are also welcome to spread the word about the databases, forums and my Open Letter to Mothers about Software (http://digifreedom.net/node/74) as much as you wish, *especially* outside Free Software circles. Teachers, parents associations, churches, senior citizens clubs, any youth organization, whatever: the more non-programmers we can reach with this approach, the better it would be for Free Standards and Software. Thank you in advance for your time! Any general feedback is also welcome! Best Regards, Marco Fioretti -- Help *everybody* love Free Standards and Free Software! http://digifreedom.net ___ Info mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.cis.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/info ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Icecream CDs
We have some leftover CDs that we burnt for aKademy. They are Kubuntu Feisty CDs modified to include the icecc daemon and not boot up a desktop. The desktop can be started with /etc/init.d/kdm start and the install process should then be the same as any other Feisty CD. There are 52 CDs in total. If anyone wants them, then they are free to go. Otherwise they'll be binned on Wednesday. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: [ScotLUG Info] Request for national info.]
William Anderson wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: Some questions from Denmark, if anyone is able to provide a an answer or three... Kyle Do we have to guess what the questions are? Do we have to guess why mailman is such an assbackwards pile of crap? Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [Fwd: [ScotLUG Info] Request for national info.]
Some questions from Denmark, if anyone is able to provide a an answer or three... Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] April Talk
This months meeting will take place on Thursday 27th April, with the formal part of the meeting at 7.30pm at Livingstone Tower, moving to the Counting House at 9pm, as normal. There will likely be an informal gathering of geeks prior to that (usually from around 6pm) in the Counting House for pre-meeting drinks and eats. This month will be a talk by Scott MacVicar, titled The AMP of the LAMP Stack or Why don't you hear about LLPR? He will look at alternatives to the traditional LAMP stack in particular focussing on scalability and ease of use. There will be a few quick demonstrations of a sample site dynamic site written in Perl, Python, PHP and Ruby. Other things covered will be lighttpd and Postgres / SQLite as alternatives to MySQL. For more information, check out the website at http://www.scotlug.org.uk Kyle Gordon ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] It's a girl!
Congratulations to Heather and Ben (aka mrben) on the birth of their baby girl Mira Hope Thorp, who was born today at 19:23. Photos will be online soon apparently :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Help with SU
Have you removed winbindd from nsswitch.conf? Kyle Phillip Bennett wrote: Colin, As much as it appears I'm an idiot, yes I have logged in on the console successfully. I also changed the root password more than once to make sure it was not 'forgotten'. Thanks so far, Phil. PS: here is the su pam file for mark: #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient /lib/security/$ISA/pam_rootok.so # Uncomment the following line to implicitly trust users in the wheel group. #auth sufficient /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so trust use_uid # Uncomment the following line to require a user to be in the wheel group. #auth required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so use_uid auth required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth accountrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth password required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth # pam_selinux.so close must be first session rule sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so close sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth # pam_selinux.so open and pam_xauth must be last two session rules sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so open sessionoptional /lib/security/$ISA/pam_xauth.so -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin McKinnon Sent: 30 March 2007 13:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SLUG-list Subject: Re: [Scottish] Help with SU On Thursday 29 March 2007 14:47, Phillip Bennett wrote: snip elaborate background However, now I can't su to root. It gives me a 'wrong password' error. Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root. What makes you think you've not just forgotten the password? Have you tried logging in on the console? C. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] March Meeting
This months meeting will take place tomorrow night (Thursday 29th March), with the formal part of the meeting at 7.30pm at Livingstone Tower, moving to the Counting House at 9pm, as normal. There will likely be an informal gathering of geeks prior to that (usually from around 6pm) in the Counting House for pre-meeting drinks and eats. This month will be a talk by James Eaton-Lee, titled VPNs - Network Security's Magic Bullet For more information, check out the website at http://www.scotlug.org.uk Kyle Gordon ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X mouse cursor disappears
Could be http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412789 What if you log out and then don't press any keys? Does the cursor appear, but stay in the middle of the screen? The cursor is usually blanked when you press a key, hence why I think it could be that bug... Ta, Kyle Giles Innocent wrote: Hi there all I'm running Debian testing (yes, I know I shouldn't expect it to work!) Xorg 7.1.0-15 nv video driver (I think - I'm at work and this is my home machine) AMD64 machine kdm display manager This all works perfectly until someone logs out, then the mouse cursor disappears, and will not return until I reboot! This is a bit tedious, and she-who-must-be-obeyed is getting a little tetchy! The mouse appears to work OK, as the focus changes properly, I can select items and I can get a menu from the root window (ctwm), the cursor is just invisible. I've tried restarting the x-server (Ctrl-Alt_Bkspce) no better. Restarting kdm - still no luck. I can't find any logged bugs at debian that mention this. Anyone any ideas? Giles _ Giles Innocent Comparative Epidemiology and Informatics, Institute of Comparative Medicine, Div. Animal Production and Public Health, University of Glasgow Veterinary School Garscube Estate Bearsden Glasgow G61 1QH Tel 0141 330 6615 Fax 0141 330 5602 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Kubuntu help.....?
Sound advice, but one thing concerns me... this is Kubuntu. There should be a menu at the bottom left, doing its best to imitate the Windows start button. Paul: Is there such a menu? If so, what is in it? There should be items such as Internet, Multimedia, Office and others. Are they there? Kyle willie wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2007 22:48, babaguy wrote: Dear SLUG, excellent, we can read this stuff now :-) I have installed the KUBUNTU recommended by the Scribbler. I now cannot see how to install any programmes not included in the pre-selected lists (KDE, GNOME, ANY SUITE)in Adept Package Manager/Updates. OK , apologies if this seems irrelevant and pedantic at first. Are you definately booting from the hard disk and have you removed the install CD from the drive? copy the output from these commands into your next msg at the command-line type uname -a df -h let's check if you can get to a text editor of some sort. at the command-line type /usr/bin/kate You may get some errors in the terminal but ignore them for now, KDE can be like that.KDE Advanced Text Editor 'kate' should open. OK so far? moving on ... Are you definately running Adept as root? Select Adept from Kmenu | System Does it prompt you for your password? OR Back to the command line type sudo adept Enter your password as requested and look at Adept Package Manager again. Any joy? Before any of your jump on me for not having R'd TFM, I *have* been R'ing TFM for the past two days. This morning I was on Marcel Gagne's site and another individual with exactly this problem has a post there - the only (remotely) helpful reply tells him to go into Adept Package Manager Manage packages... The problem with this is that on my system the only option Adept Pkg. Mgr. presents me with is Adept Package ManagerQuit? I downloaded RealPlayer for Linux - it parked itself on the desktop (as things did in my dodgy Breezy Ubuntu) and then no matter what combination of commands I have been able to muster from the man pages, it still will not recognise where the pkg is - even if I put the equivalent of It's on the desktop! in the command - this may be a .tgz file which isn't immediately useable by the Ubuntu package manager. Dont worry about it for now This Kubuntu also gives me the unsettling message File protocal died suddenly. upon booting the desktop - also some other file process also - died suddenly. (I think this is just a dumb anomaly, because as soon as one clicks Okay it seems to carry on happily booting...) DunnoKDE can be like that sometimes -usually it carries on working apparently fine - someone else may sort this for you If you can paste the exact errors in the next msg it would help. ettiquette warning Dont paste huge long 50+ line errors in list mailings unless specifically asked to. Learn how to send them as attachments to those who specifically ask for them or make them available from your own webspace. There is no shame in using Windows to do this for now :-) Should I get ANOTHER Kubuntu, or - as Seago has suggested - Slackware, or what? These problems seems to be in the compiling of my particular packages/versions - I feel pretty sure most of you don't have an Adept Package Manager, for example, whose only FILE/ADEPT option is Quit? Not just yet. The install CD will have an option to check the CD when you initially booted. Have you run that check? If not do it now. If its OK then it is highly unlikely that you have a corrupted install. Stick with Kubuntu - its probably the most used distro in here for now I think. More folk can help and its pretty simple. If you can offer any guidance, I'd appreciate it. (I've e-mailed one of the super users on Linux questions but got a reply regarding something else entirely asking me to write about another far more involved problem altogether.) I'd just like to download and install some software, please. Yeah I know, you just want to get on and its intensely frustrating. We've all been there for varying periods of time and its not nice. NEWSFLASH On the other hand, it seems you have been bothering lots of people in the Glasgow Open Source community with constant demands for help. Your recent reported behaviour means I have to reluctantly concur with the majority of folk here who think you are the kind of guy that gets honest masturbators a very bad name indeed. Your address is now black-listed on my machines. Now move slowly away from the keyboard and never ever go back near one, Best Regards Willie Fleming ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] New Thread: I apologise.....
babaguy wrote: Dear William, I *do* appreciate your time in relaising what's been munging my e-mails - I *think* the problem will be best addressed by me simply switching to the Plain Text Format. Better - ? Again - many thanks! - Paul B. Beautiful, far better :-) New reduce the gaps between lines so it reads like a normal paragraph or two, and you're all set to go :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] rpmdb: DB.LOCK
On Thursday 08 March 2007 16:55:13 Peter George wrote: Hello, Installing FC6 on a Poweredge 1550, I get about 3% through the installation process and a red bar comes up on the gui installer saying; rpmdb: DB.LOCK - lock_put: LOCK is no longer valid. And the installation fails with a strange red screen filled with unmount messages and a call to reboot. On reboot screen tells me operating system not found. Any thoughts as to why this might be happening? P That sounds like the disk is failing during the install. Has the hard drive been checked out and working OK? Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] FAO
William Anderson wrote: babaguy wrote: Thanks J.R. ! I *think* the system has updated itself to Edgy [snip] It could only have done that if you'd commanded it to do so, after changing the repository settings in the update manager, synaptic or /etc/apt/sources.list - it definitely won't have done that magically :) If memory serves, update-manager will automatically detect when a new version has been released, and prompt the user with a big shiny button to begin the upgrade process. I'd hazard a guess and say that's what happened... Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] FAO
Alan Pope wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:53:14AM +, Kyle Gordon wrote: William Anderson wrote: babaguy wrote: Thanks J.R. ! I *think* the system has updated itself to Edgy [snip] It could only have done that if you'd commanded it to do so, after changing the repository settings in the update manager, synaptic or /etc/apt/sources.list - it definitely won't have done that magically :) If memory serves, update-manager will automatically detect when a new version has been released, and prompt the user with a big shiny button to begin the upgrade process. Your memory is failing :) You only get the prompt to upgrade to a newer release (e.g. Dapper -- Edgy) if you run update manager with -c. See the following page for details. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades If you just run update manager on a regular basis and hit the button when it tells you to upgrade then you will only ever do the equivalent of apt-get/aptitude update apt-get/aptitude upgrade || apt-get/aptitude dist-upgrade, but your sources.list wont be touched. I'd hazard a guess and say that's what happened... Given the above I would suspect not. Cheers, Al. I stand corrected. Goes to show how much I use update-manager :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] time spent on Linux stuff...
Hi Paul, babaguy wrote: Dear Mr. Ben and all, I think my problems have just been a series of unfortunate events...When I've tried to use the lt;tabgt; key to complete a file name in order to find/install it, the computer simply beeps at me - this may be a key mapping issue, I realise... It will beep every time there is no possible autocompletion. Hit tab once more and it will either display a list of all available commands, or prompt to ask if you really want to display the entire list. Even when using Synaptic last night to download amp; install back ports to Breezy, it downloaded them all right, but when it came to installing them I got an error message that another program like apt-get was also running (it wasn't) - I closed my terminal window, tried again and still got the same message... Don't use apt-get whilst running Synaptic. In fact, please try to stick to Synaptic alone. Like any package manager (even MSI in Windows), things can get twisted if you install more than one thing at once. This lock prevents that from happening. Synaptic is basically a nice frontend to apt, so even with Synaptic sitting there doing nothing, apt will still fail to run. Don't use apt unless you really really have to and the instructions _explicitly_ say so. Ubuntu is designed to use the GUI for everything, don't try to shortcut it when you don't understand it. I suspect that I just got a duff copy of Breezy (but the price was right! ) - and I can't change the boot sequence in my BIOS to allow it to go from CD-ROM first - the options are there but there doesn't seem to be any way to enable them - so I can't load a new OS/distro Breezy is horribly out of date. Free copies of 6.06 (Dapper) are available from shipit.ubuntu.com and I'm sure if you ask someone here then they will burn you a CD of 6.10 (Edgy) and post it to you. I doubt you enable or disable bootable devices in your BIOS. It's more likely that you use the pgup/pgdown keys or suchlike to change the boot priority. There is also the fact that a common default configuration for a machine with no OS installed is to fail over and boot from CD. I am, of course, taking a wild and miscalculated leap into the murky waters of assumption and speculation by guessing that your machine originally had no OS installed. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Since I *could* boot from CD-ROM when I loaded Breezy, I suspect that something in Breezy has disabled or frozen my BIOS settings, meaning I must simply donate my computer to the Electron Club in Glasgow and find another... Getting BIOS update tools for Linux is hard enough. I doubt very _very_ *very* much that it hosed your BIOS by accident. It's even more unlikely that the assumed accident was miraculous enough to tickle that tiny ickle wee bit of data in the BIOS that prevents you from changing boot order, instead of blowing away your entire BIOS and leaving you with a machine that only functions as a glorified monitor power switch. Once again, thank you all for your cogent, patient help. I appreciate it! - Paul Double, triple, even quadruple check your BIOS settings. Get the manual out, have a look. A corrupt BIOS will manifest itself in 2 ways. It will work... or it won't. Once you get the BIOS sorted out, download and install a newer version of Ubuntu. Breezy is perfectly usable, just very old (Ubuntu wouldn't be where it is today if Breezy was as bad as it seems to be for you) Let us know how you get on. Reply to this thread, as it's still on the same topic. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: Do Re Me: [Scottish] time spent on Linux stuff...
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 18:00:54 babaguy wrote: William Anderson wrote:quot;Also, could you please stop changing the subject line (i.e. Re: tomoRe:), as whatever mailer you're using doesn't respect the References:header, and changing the subject line screws with list threadingsomething fierce :) quot;Look! If Linux can twist *my* melon, I can certainly twist some threads! I may end up with - who knows? - enough rope to hang myself! But seriously folks - I'd be delighted to do a re-install with a newer version of Ubu-roi - not sure if my machine will actually be able to accomplish this in its current BADGER'ed condition, but I'll give it a try - I realise that newly downloaded applications *ought* to simply open by clicking on the icon, but the trouble is there *are* (mostly) no discernable icons, and when there *is* an icon on the desktop, there's nothing in it! It's just a pretty little picture lurking on my G-noam-ie...Onward ! (and Thank you all very much - the reason I keep turning to you guys is that when I look thru Ubu-info/forum-stuff it just ends up annoying me even more ! The actual problem is often not covered, or blithely passed over in a glancing comment or subordinate clause - )Thanks ! - Paul B. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Do Re Me? This list is not a fairground. We all love the wheel, but after the umpteenth rotation you lose the excitement and start wanting to piss on the chumps below. Stop pissing about with the subject line, learn to reply properly, and compose emails that are not one continuous stream of verbiage. Please read RFC1855, http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html, and list netiquette from here http://www.ualberta.ca/~pletendr/list-net.html In short - do not mangle subject lines. Start a fresh new email when beginning a new thread, reply to threads correctly and concisely. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux stuff...
William Anderson wrote: Colin McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 13:37, babaguy wrote: I don't know if my last e-mail got through or not, It got here. If I could be bothered reading the headers I'd work out when - let me know if its a big problem. lazy get ;) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=xinit.lug.org.uk) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1HKhrO-00075A-00 ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:21:46 + Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1HKEXm-0003aZ-00 for scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:03:34 + I replied to Paul's first message, but it's been caught in the list spam filters ... paging list admin, list admin to the mailman interface please. List admin here... list admin is lazying it up on holiday... List admin also suggests that people, neuro included, should not write emails that look like spam. :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] February Meeting
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 10:23:10 Chris Nicolson wrote: February's meeting will take place tomorrow night (Thursday 25th January), I've missed my flight! You barsteward! Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Windows Vista Business value thingy
Andrew Back wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, ed wrote: Send back the media and license agreement and see if you can get a cash refund :o) Indeed. Dell seem to be acting nice about it... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6144782.stm Just make sure you document it properly. :-) Kyle Andrew ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] aKademy2007
Evening all, Thought I would take this opportunity to ask a few questions to the ScotLUG community. aKademy2007 is coming up at the end of June, and we're in the middle of preparations for it. We are currently seeking suggestions on where to hold a formal dinner for approximately 200 people preferably in the Glasgow city centre area. There's a lot of restaurants out there, but not many seem to want 200 people. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone is aware of companies that might be interested in sponsoring the event, please get in touch. If you have any KDE related presentations that you wish to do, then now's your chance to answer the call for papers. Equally, we're interested in any people that would be interested in helping during the event. Even a couple of hours would go a long way to helping it run smoothly. The event runs from June 30th to July 7th, and more details are available at http://akademy2007.kde.org. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Gaelic Spellchecker
J.R. Seago wrote: Well that was interesting, and between us we managed to increase the traffic on the list to the point where it sent out a digest on one subject. I seem to have been led along gently by the rest of you to the point where I have arrived at this: http://www.intco.biz/open-source/open-office-scots-gaelic.htm However the websites from which one can download Gaelic Open Office all seem to be out of date, or not yet finished. Well, we were talking about Gaelic spellcheckers originally, and now we're onto versions of OpenOffice localized into Gaelic. What is it you want? Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Gaelic Spellchecker
J.R. Seago¹ wrote: On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:15, William Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand this argument. A 1:4 Welsh:English speaking ratio surely deserves more attention than a 1:86 Scots Gaelic:English ratio? At a per-head rate, the WLB gets ~ £19, given the figures you and others have quoted (£13.7m/0.7m people). The GLB gets ~ £75 (4.409m/0.058m) per head! Where's the problem here? Scotland 5,062,011 population getting £4,409,000 = £0·88 approx. per head for linguistic and cultural preservation and promotion. Wales 2,903,085 population getting £13,700,000 = £4·72 approx. per head for linguistic and cultural preservation and promotion. 5·36 times as much per head as the language and culture of Scotland gets, when it could be argued that as one in four already speaks the language that it is not as much in need of preservation as the culture and language of a nation where only only one in eighty-six of the population speak the minority language. I would argue that the spending needs to be concentrated where the need is greatest, in Scotland. The Welsh have got the funding and recognition, in my opinion, because an element of their cultural and linguistic grouping is prepared to commit violence and illegality to get their cause the news/media coverage, ...A hundred protesters blockaded the entrance to a supermarket in Bangor, North Wales on Saturday 27 January and three protesters were arrested for suspected criminal damage. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/new Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Petitions
I thought some of you may be interested in the following petitions currently on the go at pm.gov.uk... http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/softwarepatents/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Open-IT-projects/ Worth a read and possibly even a signature. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...
Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu is nice and shiny because the very nice man called Mark Shuttleworth is behind it. He's a millionaire or something like that, and likes to spend his money on being a space tourist, running and selling Thawte (the people that make sure online shopping is safe), and Ubuntu. There's a good article about him at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth Kyle babaguy wrote: Boy oh Boy, Thanks you guys!I now have been forced to LOOK at (oops! too many capial letters! I'm typing with capital letters! I'm typing with capital letters! (think: 'running with scissors.') - - as I say, FORCED (by my sweetheart) to peruse the windows machine and the CD *is* a re-writer, so I may hassle around with firmware download for the Speed Touch - £'s *are* a consideration just now...But in a few weeks I should be able to buy me a modem/router... BTW, we do not have NIC cards for these computers, so the modems run off the USB only, though I'm going to try to get some ethernet cables as we have this surge protector/hub thang and it may be of some use..for internet connection ! I really *do* appreciate all your help - one of these thursdays you might even glimpse me at the Counting House, where people count! Thanks for being guys I could count on, - Paul B. p.s. last question: Have any of you ever been suspicious about who actually owns Canonical? The packaging is so well designed and attractive, but where do they get the money to pay people to put out a new version every six months, when they are giving it away ? If anyone knows anything or has opinions about this situation, please share them with me. - p.b. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...
Rand, Dollah or Pound? Kyle Alex Walker wrote: He was also the first African in space. Isn't he a *billionaire*? On 15 Jan 2007, at 12:54, Kyle Gordon wrote: Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu is nice and shiny because the very nice man called Mark Shuttleworth is behind it. He's a millionaire or something like that, and likes to spend his money on being a space tourist, running and selling Thawte (the people that make sure online shopping is safe), and Ubuntu. There's a good article about him at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth Kyle babaguy wrote: Boy oh Boy, Thanks you guys!I now have been forced to LOOK at (oops! too many capial letters! I'm typing with capital letters! I'm typing with capital letters! (think: 'running with scissors.') - - as I say, FORCED (by my sweetheart) to peruse the windows machine and the CD *is* a re-writer, so I may hassle around with firmware download for the Speed Touch - £'s *are* a consideration just now...But in a few weeks I should be able to buy me a modem/router... BTW, we do not have NIC cards for these computers, so the modems run off the USB only, though I'm going to try to get some ethernet cables as we have this surge protector/hub thang and it may be of some use..for internet connection ! I really *do* appreciate all your help - one of these thursdays you might even glimpse me at the Counting House, where people count! Thanks for being guys I could count on, - Paul B. p.s. last question: Have any of you ever been suspicious about who actually owns Canonical? The packaging is so well designed and attractive, but where do they get the money to pay people to put out a new version every six months, when they are giving it away ? If anyone knows anything or has opinions about this situation, please share them with me. - p.b. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
Hi Paul, This is the first that you mention the Speedtouch 330. All previous opinions were based on the BT Voyager which you mention (of which I know of at least 4 different models). I never used my Speedtouch, I handed it away on Freecycle. I do recall setting one up about 6 years ago for a friend, and they were a nightmare back then. Things have improved though, and there's a howto written here... http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html There may be a way of doing it with pointy clicky interface things, but I've not come across it. Ben Thorp, our wonderful Ubuntu Community Hero, may be able to point you in the right direction if you don't want to go near the command line. Kyle PS. Less capitals, proper punctuation. We lean towards formal writing styles here. babaguy wrote: Hi Kyle ! (and all...)As I say in the first post, the modem which is on this (XP) machine is a BT Voyager ADSL modem - the other modem I just picked up thanks to FREESHARE! is a THOMSON Speed Touch 330 which is the one I'll try to make work with the linux box.And the problem is still - where do I go in Ubuntu to configure a modem? I can't see either modem, ADSL, Network connections...How do I get the Linux machine to recognise BT and log onto its server? What function should I be using to set up and configure a connection to the internet, to get Ubuntu to recognise the modem? ? I can't find any pages about this in Firefox or Gnome..(nor do I see the initials RTFM (and what do they mean, anyway?) I would have thought that RTFM would be a topic or a term in the glossary, but so far I can't find it in UBUNTU.) Hope you can help...! - Paul B. --- On Sat 01/13, Kyle Gordon lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote: From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:37:17 +Subject: Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...You certainly don't need to get cable. I don't know who gave you thatidea. If Ubuntu detects your DSL modem (ADSL is the same as DSL for thepurposes of your case), then that's all good. You still don't say whatmodel of ADSL modem you have, so we're back at square one.Kylebabaguy wrote:gt; Hi Kyle ! Thanks for the tip - Ubuntu detected that there *is* an ethernet device/ability or something on this(lovely) old heap - My sweetheart seems to think we need to get DSL as opposed to ADSL - does this sound right to you? gt;gt; e.g. - do we need to get *cable* ? I think not, but I'm not techy-speccy enough to be able to confidently rebut or reboot her..gt;gt; Hope you can help some more - Paul B. gt;gt; gt;gt; gt;gt; --- On Fri 01/12, Kyle Gordon amp;lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] amp;gt; wrote:From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:54 +Subject: Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...What model of Voyager modem is it? It's best not to use USB, and use Ethernet instead. That way you can use a bog standard network card, about 99% of which are guaranteed to work in any form of operating system. If you use a network card, Linux will support it without the need for any crazy drivers from BT or its 3rd party, 4th partner, 2nd outsourced software/hardware makers in India that happened to get cheapest bid of the day in for BT kit...Kylebabaguy wrote:amp;gt; Hi SLUGgers! WOW ! amp;gt;amp;gt; Okay - so, I've managed (well, my SWEETHEART managed) to make a functioning computer out of a bunch of old stuff, I got a monitor off FREESHARE, I've installed UBUNTU 5.10 - the one they are currently giving away in the smart, inviting packaging gt; (picked it up from PC Medic in Paisley - nice shop btw) - amp;gt;amp;gt; - and it seems to WORK ! ! ! amp;gt;amp;gt; Perseverance pays off ! (some of you may recall my first attempts w/Linux about 3 years ago - the Suse Home edition (NOTHING worked - except Chess at ONE level only!) - and then an earlier edition of Ubuntu...grrr.amp;gt;amp;gt; - but no more, I sense! amp;gt;amp;gt; Okay! Here's my question. We have BT Total Broadband - amp;gt;amp;gt; (but I DON'T have the new TOTAL Broadband router - I have a BT VOYAGER ADSL modem - which I also got on FREESHARE. Works good!)amp;gt;amp;gt; There is a CD which has the modem driver for Windows XP - it's what I'm using to access the internet on the other computer... (bless it). amp;gt;amp;gt; What do I need to do to make my UBUNTU computer recognise the ADSL modem and vice versa? amp;gt;amp;gt; Does BT do a CD for installation with Linux? amp;gt;amp;gt; Is there one of you SLUGgers who HAS the drivers that will work in Linux and recognise the BT VOYAGER ADSL modem? I gt; currently don't have a CD or DVD re-writer, only CD-ROM (on both the XP and the UBUNTU machines) so I don't think I'll be able to download and burn a version of the driver even if I were to find it on a Linux web driver repository.amp
Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
babaguy wrote: Thanks Kyle, for the link and the heads-up! There was so much information on the page that I haven't tried to follow what it suggests - I think it requires that I download the firmware for the Speed Touch and burn it to a CD and then run that CD on the Ubuntu box in order to configure the Speed Touch - ( Since I don't have a CD-R on either computer I figure this would be an interesting process.) Gordon simply said to bin the Speed Touch, and I probably will... What is the simplest way to get on the net via Linux - How do YOU guys do it? The simplest way would be to get a Safecom SAMR-4112 (http://safecom.cn/code/sub/category.asp?prdid=182subcatid=1) from http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=19509. You should be able to plug your telephone line straight into this, and it will give you 2 ports to which your computers can connect. You can connect your Ubuntu machine with a normal network cable, and the Windows machine with a USB cable. It even comes with a built in firewall, so you don't have to worry about getting Zonealarm for your Windows machine or anything like that. If you want to expand your network, just get a simple 5 port switch and hook it up to the ethernet port that you previously used for the Ubuntu machine. Voila, another 4 ports for 4 more machines. Your other half will love you even more for it :-) You'd want it in router mode, so it can share your internet connection between your XP machine and your Ubuntu machine. Both would connect to it using standard network cards and cables, and you wouldn't need any software provided by your provider. Just feed your username, password, etc into the web interface of the router, and connect up your computers and tell them to automatically get their IP address from the network. Everyone I know who has a home network of any size (ie, more than one computer), uses a setup similar to this. Whether it's a nice and simple device such as this, a Linksys with modified firmware, or a fully fledged computer running all sorts of weird and wonderful firewall software, the basics end up being the same. One device to handle the network connection, and a bunch of computers using standard settings on the home network. It makes life nice and easy for the future, and you don't have to rely on crazy custom software from BT/NTL/Wanadoo/Force9/UnameIT (all of which will hate each other if you try to change provider one day) Let us know how you get on :-) Kyle Thanks again, all, and - why aren't we all in our beds by now? - Paul ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
You certainly don't need to get cable. I don't know who gave you that idea. If Ubuntu detects your DSL modem (ADSL is the same as DSL for the purposes of your case), then that's all good. You still don't say what model of ADSL modem you have, so we're back at square one. Kyle babaguy wrote: Hi Kyle ! Thanks for the tip - Ubuntu detected that there *is* an ethernet device/ability or something on this(lovely) old heap - My sweetheart seems to think we need to get DSL as opposed to ADSL - does this sound right to you? e.g. - do we need to get *cable* ? I think not, but I'm not techy-speccy enough to be able to confidently rebut or reboot her.. Hope you can help some more - Paul B. --- On Fri 01/12, Kyle Gordon lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote:From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:54 +Subject: Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...What model of Voyager modem is it? It's best not to use USB, and use Ethernet instead. That way you can use a bog standard network card, about 99% of which are guaranteed to work in any form of operating system. If you use a network card, Linux will support it without the need for any crazy drivers from BT or its 3rd party, 4th partner, 2nd outsourced software/hardware makers in India that happened to get cheapest bid of the day in for BT kit...Kylebabaguy wrote:gt; Hi SLUGgers! WOW ! gt;gt; Okay - so, I've managed (well, my SWEETHEART managed) to make a functioning computer out of a bunch of old stuff, I got a monitor off FREESHARE, I've installed UBUNTU 5.10 - the one they are currently giving away in the smart, inviting packaging (picked it up from PC Medic in Paisley - nice shop btw) - gt;gt; - and it seems to WORK ! ! ! gt;gt; Perseverance pays off ! (some of you may recall my first attempts w/Linux about 3 years ago - the Suse Home edition (NOTHING worked - except Chess at ONE level only!) - and then an earlier edition of Ubuntu...grrr.gt;gt; - but no more, I sense! gt;gt; Okay! Here's my question. We have BT Total Broadband - gt;gt; (but I DON'T have the new TOTAL Broadband router - I have a BT VOYAGER ADSL modem - which I also got on FREESHARE. Works good!)gt;gt; There is a CD which has the modem driver for Windows XP - it's what I'm using to access the internet on the other computer... (bless it). gt;gt; What do I need to do to make my UBUNTU computer recognise the ADSL modem and vice versa? gt;gt; Does BT do a CD for installation with Linux? gt;gt; Is there one of you SLUGgers who HAS the drivers that will work in Linux and recognise the BT VOYAGER ADSL modem? I currently don't have a CD or DVD re-writer, only CD-ROM (on both the XP and the UBUNTU machines) so I don't think I'll be able to download and burn a version of the driver even if I were to find it on a Linux web driver repository.gt;gt; I hope one of you will be able to help and advise me on this, as I'd REALLY like to be able to get online with the Ubuntu machine.gt;gt; I REALLY like this new-ish Ubuntu, by the way - it's fun! (and it seems to WORK ! )gt;gt; Yours in hope, and with THANKS in advance,gt;gt; - Paul Birchard gt;gt; ___gt; No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.gt; Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.comgt; ___gt; Scottish mailing listgt; Scottish@mailman.lug.org.ukgt; https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottishgt;gt; ___Scottish mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Which distro
Yes, it'll be the development headers for X. In Ubuntu, try installing the following. xlibs-dev libx11-dev kdebase-dev I'm sure it'll be xlibs-dev that provides what you need. The configure script won't tell you what packages you need, as it's just a generic source tarball. It isn't tailored to your particular distribution, and thus can only provide generic error messages. Is there any reason that you can't install the software from the package archives? What's the name of the software and why do you need to compile it from scratch? The average (new-to-Linux) Ubuntu user isn't going to be wanting to compile software, but instead should rely on the vast collection of software available in the package repositories. Regards Kyle On Fri, December 29, 2006 3:32 pm, Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi, Are these dev packages for the X includes or something else? I know that I may not have all of the files for the kdeveloper app. I was hoping to find out what they are when the ./configure completes. Joe On 12/29/06, Gordon JC Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Stephen, Here is the error message, 'Checking for X... configure: error. can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths.' Since I probably will not hear form you until after the new year have a nice time at the bells. Joe Have you got the appropriate -dev packages installed? Gordon ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Joe ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
The monitor is now going in the bin. Carted the damn thing about all day today and brought it to Scotlug. Maybe I took it for granted that a potential taker would turn up. Silly me. Joste: the Haynes manual from 3 months ago has been handed back to Gordon. Kyle On Friday 15 December 2006 00:37, Joste Bowen wrote: I'll taker it if it's still going, it seems I'm collecting broken monitors at the moment. On Thursday 14 December 2006 21:24, Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ It has a slight glitch in that the picture has shifted an inch to the left, leaving it looking a compressed on the left, and a gap on the right. I'm sure it can be fixed, but I don't know how. It's free to a good home on Thursday 21st evening, if anyone wants it. Please register interest before then by email, as I need to take the car to work that day if someone is interested. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Thursday Meeting *IMPORTANT*
Well, true. These Christmas Pop Quiz events are best left to another time... Kyle On Wednesday 20 December 2006 19:30, ptb wrote: Hallo : - Good, best of both worlds; any really major event is for the New Year and it's only towards Mardi Gras that a few of the more serious players are liable to lose count. Pat On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:44:27 + Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent on behalf of Ben... OK - we've been trying to arrange this, but due to the really short notice, and the fact that MrLithic, quizmaster, has been ill all week, we've decided that the best thing to do is to postpone the quiz until January's meeting, and instead just have a Christmas bash in the Counting House. There's likely to be folks there from around 6pm. Looking forward to seeing you there. Merry Christmas Ben Thorp (aka mrben) Our apologies for the lateness of this change of plan, but there really wasn't much choice or notice. As noted, the quiz, with prizes, will be held on January 25th 2007. Hope you all have a great Christmas and New Year. Regards Kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/12/2006 15:08:24: It would appear that Livingstone Tower is not available to us as a venue for Thursdays quiz night. We are trying to find somewhere alternative, but would welcome any suggestions (or preferably offers) of somewhere convenient. As soon as I know anything, it'll get posted here. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish --- -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Fans
Typically, the cooling fan in my HTPC packed in 2 days before I go on holiday. I like to think I don't watch much TV, but I'm not looking forward to missing Scrubs, Top/Fifth Gear, CSI (Charlottes) whilst I'm away... Would anyone be willing to part with a 12v 80x80x15mm fan for some money/beer/fame/recognition/etc? Alternatively, does anyone know a supplier of these near Charing Cross, or know of one that they can get locally and bring along to the meet tomorrow. The aforementioned money/beer/fame/recognition/etc will be offered in return :-) Priceless and PCWorld don't have such an item listed online. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/116274 is such a beastie, but unlikely to arrive by Thursday evening if I order now :'-( Cheers all, Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:46, William Anderson wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ Admit it, you just wanted to show off your ORA book collection :) I'm just glad I'm not being pulled up for the Discover Delphi book :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
Sorted now. Cheers Kyle Andrew Barber wrote: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~bagpuss/G500/CIMG1297.JPG on this server. :( Don't really want it, just being nosy. Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ It has a slight glitch in that the picture has shifted an inch to the left, leaving it looking a compressed on the left, and a gap on the right. I'm sure it can be fixed, but I don't know how. It's free to a good home on Thursday 21st evening, if anyone wants it. Please register interest before then by email, as I need to take the car to work that day if someone is interested. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] AJAX Talk
Afternoon all, Apologies for the delay. As some of you are aware, the talk, AJAX, Asynchronous JavaScript and XML by Lawrence Sweeney on 30th November was caught on camera. The unedited footage has now been uploaded for your viewing pleasure at http://lodge.glasgownet.com/blog/2006/12/12/ajax-talk/. It's currently in Ogg Theora format, and if I ever get round to putting a title and some floating text stuff, then it'll be posted to the same location. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Drive performance...
On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 08:37 +, Andrew Back wrote: On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Kyle Gordon wrote: Caviar 80GB (Master) + DiamondMax 60 (slave) on the internal IDE controller + Deskstar 120GXP on a PCI Ultra100 TX2 card - giving 120GB What configuration gives 120GB from 80 + 60? Is it not multiples of the smallest drive? Like (n-1)x, n being number of drives and x being the capacity of the smallest drive? Am I wrong in thinking that the SCSI drives will be faster than the IDE setup, given their age? The DiamondMax is ATA66 whereas the Caviar and DeskStar are ATA100, but the Quantums are Ultra160. The Quantums however, are older, and the primary use of this will be ~, where random access will be preferred over sequential streaming. It may not be the case any more given advances in IDE/ATA technology but it certainly used to be that all other things being equal SCSI would win where the workload was of a more random nature. It's bus protocol is (was?) more advanced and allowed command queueing. The OS could send a bunch of requests at the drive and it would be able to service them in the order it saw fit based on where the heads where at. Whereas with IDE everything was serialised and the drive would have to wait for the blocks to pass the heads, service that request, and then take another request, wait for the data to go by the heads and so on.. So SCSI made sense in file servers and multiuser systems, and IDE in the likes of a video editing workstation where access would be largely sequential. Of course then you have to factor in drive the performance, cache and so on. And overhead/benefits of disk configuration options - RAID*/JBOD. There may be other benefits to SCSI I've missed, and I admittedly know little if anything about modern ATA drives. I think that settles it then... SCSI it is :-) They may be old, but still more advanced. On the plus side, it frees up some drives for use in other machines :-) Cheers, Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Calling Joste
I still have that Vauxhall Astra Haynes book you were to collect months ago. It'll be at the next Scotlug, and then it'll be in the bin. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Free stuff
Evening all, I have free stuff to give away... 1x PCI Modem - Conexant RS56-PCI 1x PCI Modem - Conexant RH56D-PCI 1x PCI Soundcard - Yamaha YMF724E-Y 1x PCI MPEG Decoder - ReaMagic EM8300 1x ISA Soundblaster - CT4170 1x ISA SCSI Adapter - AHA-1542CP 1x ISA Thing - Has antenna connector and Speaker connector. FCC ID - LCH 9020-234567 1x ASUS USB header 1x USB(2x), Mouse, IR header 1x Pentium P200 1x Pentium P100 Assorted serial cables, printer cables, headers, connectors, scsi things, etc All this, and more, will be present in my rucksack at tomorrows booktrip. Don't all come rushing at once... Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] 486 processors
I have two 486 chips to give away. No motherboard or anything, just the processors. One is a 486 DX2-66, and the other is my old pride and joy, a 486 DX4-100. They were both last tested in the mid 90s... Free to a good home, as long as they are collected within one week from either the Yoker area, or Charing Cross area. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 15:01, William Anderson wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi Kyle, I hope this is what you want. Thanks. Joseph, the scotlug list software automatically strips out attachments when they are posted to the list. Send your attachments to Kyle directly, or stick them on a website so others can grab them if you want. Might I add that Josephs mail was held in the moderation queue as it exceeded the size limit. I approved it, with attachment intact. Somewhere further on, mailman decided to magically remove the attachment without my intervention or knowledge. This is also happening to mails that are sent with a GPG/PGP signature, and I am at a loss as to why. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 15:01, William Anderson wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi Kyle, I hope this is what you want. Thanks. Joseph, the scotlug list software automatically strips out attachments when they are posted to the list. Send your attachments to Kyle directly, or stick them on a website so others can grab them if you want. The attachment has been posted at http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/dapper.tar.gz Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] usb2 hard drive not being recognised anymore
What make of drive is it? I've had a Maxtor and a Lacie both fail at the interface level for some reason. Both drives work fine when connected via IDE. Kyle On Thursday 18 May 2006 21:05, Thomas McLean wrote: Hi Martin/all, Just an update, I installed ubuntu onto another machine and tried it that way and the exact same messages appeared (different kernels). So I says stuff it time to open the casing. I done it without breaking the warranty sticker, so thats a good thing. I mounted it into the new installation of ubuntu and then formatted it to ext3 and tried it on my other PC and that worked fine under ubuntu. It's mounted and working perfectly. I've not tried the other drive (format and mount procedure) as yet but will get round to that shortly. I'd imagine that the other drive will be working too and maybe just the casing is broke somehow. The casing is just lying beside the computer, I actually do prefer the drives being inside the PC for speed issues etc. Thanks for all the replies tho', it's very much appreciated. Cheers, Tam. On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 05:31:04PM +0100, Thomas McLean wrote: Hi all, First of all for informational purposes I am running Ubuntu Dapper. Myself and Kyle (aka bagpuss) tried for a few hours last night by doing various methods and it still didn't suceed. I have a 500gb external usb2 hdd which I have been using for the past couple of days. Anyway, I rebooted my machine and when I try to mount the hdd it just says: Are you one the same kernel? Did you apt-get any kernel/udev/hotplug packages since your earlier boot? '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/big mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist' Are you using udev? Well at that point I thought I should check to see if the modules are present and here is the output from that also: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod |grep usb usb_storage74176 0 scsi_mod 139496 4 sd_mod,usb_storage,sr_mod,sbp2 usbcore 129668 4 usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd Looks good to me. dmesg reports this whenever I put in the usb2 cable: [4294852.023000] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 2 [4295590.979000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 [4295953.814000] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... [4295953.814000] usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage [4295953.814000] USB Mass Storage support registered. [4296229.694000] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods This is not so good. Have you googled for this? [4296247.023000] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 3 [4296249.229000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [4296249.733000] usb 4-4: device not accepting address 4, error -71 [4296249.835000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 Seems like a kernel/driver thing to me. Does the hard disk show up in /proc/scsi/scsi? Also, have a look at the 'lsusb -v' and if need be 'lsusb -vv' output. -- Martin - -- 30 years from now GNU/Linux will be as redundant a term as MERT/UNIX is today. - Martin Habets - -- ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] usb2 hard drive not being recognised anymore
It should be the job of udev to load the correct module. This job used to be handled by hotplug. Of course, if usb-storage is already loaded, then you should jsut get some messages about /dev/sd* being created. Kyle On Monday 15 May 2006 16:47, Thomas McLean wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: On Monday 15 May 2006 16:27, Philip Ward wrote: Have you tried fdisk -l after plugging in the drive? The system may choose to put it as sdb instead of sda. fdisk -l will tell you where the drive is if it can be seen at all. Yep, tried that. When the drive is plugged in, nothing gets loaded. The USB Mass Storage guff in the logs mentioned earlier was from when I loaded the module manually. All that normally gets spewed out by dmesg is this... [4296247.023000] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 3 [4296249.229000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [4296249.733000] usb 4-4: device not accepting address 4, error -71 [4296249.835000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 So, usb-storage isn't loaded, and /dev/sda* isn't present. the drive also doesn't appear in disk manglement mmc in Windows apparently. Kyle So I take it that when I plug the drive in usb-storage should turn on? Because, if it's not present then why would it recognise it? I'm not good with this sorta thing... Tam. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] newbie
As an extra thought, if you fancy a hand setting it up. I'm sure you could come along on Thursday with the respective kit and distro, and people will help you set it up. Kyle On Tuesday 28 March 2006 17:47, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: Richard Wright wrote: Hi I would like to install a distribution of linux onto my own machine and was wondering if anyone could help? I am a university student, my old machine (eMac, now broken) was used for word processing and web browsing. It had a basic BSD version of unix. I have recently become interested in programming in unix. My Dad has very kindly given me an old laptop of his, a Toshiba Libretto with windows 98 installed. This is the machine I want to install linux onto. It has no CD drive, only a floppy drive. We did have a backpack cd drive but it is lost. It has a pentium mmx (not sure of exact spec) and limited memory. The upshot of this laptop is its miniscule size. It is just about samll enough to fit in a pocket! If anyone can think of a suitable linux distribution for an older machine and would be willing to guide me through the installation that would be great. Preferrably it must have a web browser, a word processor (preferrably word compatible), python, java, C compilers, both vi and emacs, and nasm assembly language. I have never installed an operating system before and I'm not sure where to begin. The information I found on the internet suggests that my local linux users group is my best bet. I'm actually running NetBSD on my Libretto 70CT, and have installed it on another machine. By far the easiest way is to whip out the drive and mount it in another machine. This can be a laptop with a CDROM, or a desktop with a suitable adaptor for the 44-pin laptop drive. Unlike Windows, most free as in (beer|speech) Unix-a-likes are pretty uncritical about what they are run on. You can install a fairly basic distro (and you will be, with 32M of memory) and at worst all you'll have to do is change what kind of driver X uses, possibly other minor fettling like that. The next easiest way is to use a boot floppy and PCMCIA network card, but only if you've got two slots - your Libretto might, mine doesn't. You could set up SLIP or PPP with the docking station's serial port, but that is just too hideously painfully horrible to contemplate. Finally you *may* be able to get a base install onto it from (lots of) floppies, then use a PCMCIA card to go from there. A variant on that would be the method used to install Ultrix and early BSDs on old DEC kit, and SCO onto i386 hardware, where you partition the drive into swap and everything else, then format the (quite small) swap partition as a temporary root, load the installer onto it (from 1/4 tape cartridges, back in the day), boot it, and install the real OS on the rest of the disk. If that makes no sense to you, don't worry - it actually *doesn't* make sense any more. I can't speak about Linux on the Libretto other than It works, I've seen it done. NetBSD with the laptop-specific kernel works pretty well (nothing too strange, just built with options more suitable for lappies like APM and no stonking great RAID arrays). HTH Gordon. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] March's Meeting
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 15:16, Ben Thorp wrote: This Months meeting is Tomorrow! 7.30pm as usual in Livvy Tower, 9pm onwards in the Counting House. Details at http://www.scotlug.org.uk This month Subhi S Hashwa (aka InfraRed on IRC) will be talking about he use of open source in public access pcs, drawing from his experience with an internet cafe in Edinburgh (IIRC) As usual, there will probably be an informal pre-meeting beer+curry(/other food) in the Counting House - there's usually somebody there from at least 6pm, if not a bit earlier. If you don't know anyone, but want to come to this pre-meet, then either declare your interest on IRC (#scotlug on freenode - see the site for more details) or drop a mail to the list; sadly the big fluffy penguin that used to identify the group is not currently with us :( Ben Thorp (aka mrBen) I should be there with my mini-tux. It's about 6 high, so keep an eye out :-) Kyle (aka bagpuss_thecat) -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:52, Ben Thorp wrote: snip My original intention was to make the fee nominal (£2-£3), and, should the need arise, I am willing fund any shortfall myself. There be dragons here. I wouldn't trust this lot with anything like that. You'll find yourself offering £100 expenses to a good speaker, only to find that 1 person turns up for it. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:52, Ben Thorp wrote: snip My original intention was to make the fee nominal (£2-£3), and, should the need arise, I am willing fund any shortfall myself. There be dragons here. I wouldn't trust this lot with anything like that. You'll find yourself offering £100 expenses to a good speaker, only to find that 1 person turns up for it. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: [edlug] KDE's Akademy in Scotland
See my previous post about the mailing list Fredag 13 jan 2006 17:29 skrev Willie Fleming: On Friday 23 December 2005 14:30, Catriona Anand wrote: Well this just arrived in my Inbox this afternoon - anybody else just receiving this now or is it old news? What's the dates and likely venues before I commit myself? Aye Anand On Thursday 22 December 2005 01:05, Jonathan Riddell wrote: We have put in a bid to host KDE's Akademy conference in Glasgow next year. It's important that such bids have good local support so if you would be interested in helping next summer please say aye to show the people who decide that there will be people to help out. Jonathan - Willie ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: [edlug] KDE's Akademy in Scotland
No idea, I searched the moderation queue for the original, to no avail. Just another mail missing in the night Kyle Fredag 13 jan 2006 21:20 skrev Colin McKinnon: On Friday 13 January 2006 17:29, Willie Fleming wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 14:30, Catriona Anand wrote: Well this just arrived in my Inbox this afternoon - anybody else just receiving this now or is it old news? erm I only just got it too - and I can't seem to find Jonathon's email. Has somebody put Royal Mail in charge of SMTP? snip year. It's important that such bids have good local support so if you would be interested in helping next summer please say aye to show the people who decide that there will be people to help out. A tentative aye C. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] USB memory sticks and SuSE 9.3
On Friday 13 January 2006 07:38, Robert Barbour wrote: I did this and sent a reply to scottish, but it didn't get into the system. Could this be because it had a file attached? Oops, it appears that the volume of dodgily titled emailed being summarised in my daily You have X amount of posts waiting to be moderated mail from the list has triggered my spam filter for the past number of weeks. The latest one in my spam trap tells me I have 242 posts to check, some of which are probably legitimate. From the Subject and From lines alone, Spamassassin has given it a score of 30.4... Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [Fwd: [Backnet] Event this Wednesday]
Thought this may interest some of you. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: [Backnet] Event this Wednesday]
Kyle Gordon wrote: Thought this may interest some of you. Kyle /me checks his sent folder - _CHECK_ - there _is_ an attachment there fucks sake not only can this ass-backwards crock of shit run by lug.org.uk not handle gpg sigs, it can't even handle a fucking attachment. Piss poor headbanging shitness _again_ from the lug.org.uk guys. Here it is. Hello all - There is an event taking place this Wednesday, December 7 at 6:30 PM, upstairs at the Waverley pub, that I thought would be of some interest to backnetters. Berlin-based artist Michelle Teran will be discussing her work that focuses on the use of wireless surveillance cameras within public and private places that transmit on the 2.4 Ghz frequency band. She intercepts the signals on this band with a consumer model video scanner, and conducts walks through cities where she reveals the images being captured by cameras inside buildings. This is the launch of a series of events called Poker Club. Full details on the talk are below. Hope to see you there! Cheers, MK - The Launch of the Poker Club! In a nod to the Scottish Enlightenment, when Adam Smith and David Hume gathered to discuss big ideas over a glass of claret at the original Poker Club, New Media Scotland is launching its own series of events under this venerable name (which refers to a fireplace poker for stirring things up, not card games, we're afraid). These events will be held in the same environment as the original Poker Club - in the pubs of Edinburgh , where there is an endless supply of bar napkins to jot down inspirational notes and ideas. Our first Poker Club will be held upstairs at the Waverley (3-5 St. Mary's St., in the Old Town ) on Wednesday 7th December, at 6:30 PM, free admission. Berlin-based artist Michelle Teran will be in conversation with Clive Gillman, Director of Dundee Contemporary Arts. The topic at hand will be the ever-present eye of the surveillance camera, and in this context, Michelle will discuss her performance work with live images snatched from surveillance cameras and presented to passersby. The conversation will be lively, and you are encouraged to cut in with your questions and comments. At the Poker Club, everything is up for debate and discussion! For more on Michelle Teran: http://www.ubermatic.org/life Michelle's talk is presented in partnership with Stills: http://www.stills.org -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Christmas meet
When's the meeting going to be this month folks? I favour 22nd, but that's probably a good excuse for everyone to choose the 29th then. Some other folks in the CH have admitted to favouring the 22nd as well though. So... as I gaze into my crystal ball, to predict that nobody will give a toss - as long as there's beer involved - shall we go for the 22nd? Ta, Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Network sound systems
I'm asking you lot cos... well, google didn't turn up anything useful :-) Is anyone aware of a network audio system that is mostly seamless? I could bring my laptop into the same room as my media box, and artsd/esd/alsa/etc would automatically detect the presence of the sound system hooked up to it, and offer me a chance to use it instead of the onboard sound. Using upnp AV, rendezvous, bluetooth, anything? Maybe instead it could have something in the system notification area that knows what sound systems are on the same network, and offer the ability to pick services? I know Apples Airtunes device does similar, but up until recently it was Apple only. Jon Lech Johansen has cracked the Airtunes key, but it's still a kludge to get audio over to it. Anyone got any ideas, suggestions, hints, etc? Cheers, Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
