Re: [Scottish] Drive performance...

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Gordon
On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 08:37 +, Andrew Back wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Kyle Gordon wrote:

 
  Caviar 80GB (Master) + DiamondMax 60 (slave) on the internal IDE controller 
  +
  Deskstar 120GXP on a PCI Ultra100 TX2 card - giving 120GB
 
 What configuration gives 120GB from 80 + 60?

Is it not multiples of the smallest drive? Like (n-1)x, n being number
of drives and x being the capacity of the smallest drive?

 
  Am I wrong in thinking that the SCSI drives will be faster than the IDE 
  setup,
  given their age? The DiamondMax is ATA66 whereas the Caviar and DeskStar are
  ATA100, but the Quantums are Ultra160. The Quantums however, are older, and
  the primary use of this will be ~, where random access will be preferred 
  over
  sequential streaming.
 
 It may not be the case any more given advances in IDE/ATA technology but 
 it certainly used to be that all other things being equal SCSI would win 
 where the workload was of a more random nature. It's bus protocol is 
 (was?) more advanced and allowed command queueing. The OS could send 
 a bunch of requests at the drive and it would be able to service them in 
 the order it saw fit based on where the heads where at. Whereas with IDE 
 everything was serialised and the drive would have to wait for the blocks 
 to pass the heads, service that request, and then take another request, 
 wait for the data to go by the heads and so on.. So SCSI made sense in 
 file servers and multiuser systems, and IDE in the likes of a video 
 editing workstation where access would be largely sequential.
 
 Of course then you have to factor in drive the performance, cache and so 
 on. And overhead/benefits of disk configuration options - RAID*/JBOD.
 
 There may be other benefits to SCSI I've missed, and I admittedly know 
 little if anything about modern ATA drives.

I think that settles it then... SCSI it is :-) They may be old, but
still more advanced. On the plus side, it frees up some drives for use
in other machines :-)

Cheers,

Kyle


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Re: [Scottish] Drive performance...

2006-12-01 Thread Andrew Back

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Kyle Gordon wrote:


What configuration gives 120GB from 80 + 60?


Is it not multiples of the smallest drive? Like (n-1)x, n being number
of drives and x being the capacity of the smallest drive?


RAID 0 (striped) would give 140G but you'd lose all your data if a drive
failed.
RAID 1 (mirrored) would give 60G as you only get up to the size of the
smallest drive.
RAID 5 isn't possible with less than 3 drives.


I think that settles it then... SCSI it is :-) They may be old, but
still more advanced. On the plus side, it frees up some drives for use
in other machines :-)


Unless the perfomance gap due to difference in age is sufficiently large, 
or ATA has advanced to include command queueing...


Andrew

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