Re: [Scottish] Internal HTTP server

2003-07-14 Thread William Anderson
Phil Deane wrote:
 [snip]

 The love playing online games on Nick Jr (http://www.nickjr.co.uk) which
 are mainly java based games. They wont have access to the net from their
 room(1. because I dont want them to have access and 2. My computer is
 downstairs and running cables would be a pain the arse and 3. I only
 have a dial up and I ain't for sharing it!).

David's wwwoffle idea is pretty good, I dunno if wwwoffle could be placed
upstream of a local squid cache, then you could perhaps try a) connecting
the girls PC to yours via wireless (s'getting cheaper!), and b) when you're
online, letting them browse with squidguard or dansguardian or insert
content filtering system here [1] in the road to make sure they don't
browse stuff they're not supposed to (with your machine obviously having
ultimate control - click *hang up!*)

Perhaps more complex to put in place than you require, but IME Java and
intricate Flash stuff are hard to make work well in an offline environment -
applets and movies routinely store data in outboard class/jar/swf files, and
if you don't click on the particular section, listen to a particular
sound/song, or reach a particular level while you're online, it's never
going to work offline.

That does of course mean that if you go for the wwwoffle only solution,
you'll be forced to sit and play games through to their completion so that
the girls can play all the way through too - oh the things people can be
made to do in the sake of parenthood ;)

(incidentally, I just took a look at the playtime section on
www.nickjr.co.uk, and it works exactly how i've described - the flash movie
is self contained, and loads the swf files transparently without a new html
page being shown.  This makes it *tricky as hell* to try and spider.

[1] my employer does of course produce a content filtering system based on
dansguardian (having the author on staff helps!), but something like
SmoothGuardian to protect a couple of kids is almost certainly overkill!

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Re: [Scottish] Internal HTTP server

2003-07-13 Thread Colin McKinnon
On Saturday 12 July 2003 22:51, Phil Deane wrote:

 The love playing online games on Nick Jr (http://www.nickjr.co.uk) which
 are mainly java based games. They wont have access to the net from their
 room(1. because I dont want them to have access and 2. My computer is
 downstairs and running cables would be a pain the arse and 3. I only have a
 dial up and I ain't for sharing it!).

 I was was wondering if there is someway I can hoover the site ( or at least

Certainly there are programs which will mirror a site locally - I use Pavuk 
for this. The problem is that I've not found one that understands the innards 
of flash files - you are likely to have the same problem with Java. I was 
trying to do exactly the same thing with the cbeebies web site.

I suppose if either of us were really clever we'd build a handler / log 
watcher for apache that fetched the missing bits. Maybe someones written one 
already.

Colin

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[Scottish] Internal HTTP server

2003-07-12 Thread Phil Deane
Hi Folks

I am in the process of setting up a computer (From spare parts) for my 6 year 
old twin girls for their room.

I want to avoid them using windows, and hopefully have a lightweight WM such 
as black box running for them with easy use icons for vcds, cds, games etc. 
So all they need to do is click it once and it starts.

The love playing online games on Nick Jr (http://www.nickjr.co.uk) which are 
mainly java based games. They wont have access to the net from their room(1. 
because I dont want them to have access and 2. My computer is downstairs and 
running cables would be a pain the arse and 3. I only have a dial up and I 
ain't for sharing it!). 

I was was wondering if there is someway I can hoover the site ( or at least 
the games) and have it accessible for them on their machine. And also 
potentially be able to add to it, by downloading more things for them and 
adding it in. ( i dont know as yet if I can download them)

I presume I would need to set some sort of internal web server for them to 
use, which would direct them to whatever they want to play.

I am not a novice on Linux, but in no way advanced, so the easier way to do it 
would be better.

Any advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 

TIA
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Phil Deane
http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk


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