Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Kyle Gordon]

Well, Mr Kenny I don't see your name on the Groupsales page. Tut tut :-)

Kyle

On Thursday 29 May 2008 16:38, Kenny Duffus wrote:
> i'm definitly going to get one
>
> Kenny
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sean Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "SLUG-list" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner
>
> > On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:13 +0100, Andrew Back wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 May 2008, Sean Anderson wrote:
> >>
> >> <>
> >>
> >> > Yes, but of course you must remember that cellphones were originally
> >> > invented to allow the CIA, the NSA, or indeed the masons (because
> >> > they're the same thing, really) to keep track of the population; why
> >> > do you think phones became so cheap and easy to come by?
> >> >
> >> > The government controls the airwaves.
> >> > The government controls your phone.
> >> > Never forget this.
> >>
> >> Yes, that is why I wrap my mobile in baking foil and never use the same
> >> SIM more than once.
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> (or am I...)
> >
> > *buries phone in a pile of molten steel*
> >
> > AHA! Now no one can use their evil rays to track the location of my
> > device, sending and receiving data.. Oh, wait...
> >
> > Watch out for the MiB,
> > Sean.
> >
> > P.S. So to take this thread back on-topic, who else in the
> > Glasgow/Edinburgh locus is interested in a bulk purchase of Neos in the
> > near future? Are there enough?
> >
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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Kenny Duffus]

i'm definitly going to get one

Kenny

- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner



On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:13 +0100, Andrew Back wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2008, Sean Anderson wrote:

<>

> Yes, but of course you must remember that cellphones were originally
> invented to allow the CIA, the NSA, or indeed the masons (because
> they're the same thing, really) to keep track of the population; why do
> you think phones became so cheap and easy to come by?
>
> The government controls the airwaves.
> The government controls your phone.
> Never forget this.

Yes, that is why I wrap my mobile in baking foil and never use the same
SIM more than once.

Andrew

(or am I...)



*buries phone in a pile of molten steel*

AHA! Now no one can use their evil rays to track the location of my
device, sending and receiving data.. Oh, wait...

Watch out for the MiB,
Sean.

P.S. So to take this thread back on-topic, who else in the
Glasgow/Edinburgh locus is interested in a bulk purchase of Neos in the
near future? Are there enough?


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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Sean Anderson]

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:13 +0100, Andrew Back wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008, Sean Anderson wrote:
> 
> <>
> 
> > Yes, but of course you must remember that cellphones were originally
> > invented to allow the CIA, the NSA, or indeed the masons (because
> > they're the same thing, really) to keep track of the population; why do
> > you think phones became so cheap and easy to come by?
> >
> > The government controls the airwaves.
> > The government controls your phone.
> > Never forget this.
> 
> Yes, that is why I wrap my mobile in baking foil and never use the same 
> SIM more than once.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> (or am I...)
> 

*buries phone in a pile of molten steel*

AHA! Now no one can use their evil rays to track the location of my
device, sending and receiving data.. Oh, wait...

Watch out for the MiB,
Sean.

P.S. So to take this thread back on-topic, who else in the
Glasgow/Edinburgh locus is interested in a bulk purchase of Neos in the
near future? Are there enough?


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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Andrew Back]

On Wed, 28 May 2008, Sean Anderson wrote:

<>


Yes, but of course you must remember that cellphones were originally
invented to allow the CIA, the NSA, or indeed the masons (because
they're the same thing, really) to keep track of the population; why do
you think phones became so cheap and easy to come by?

The government controls the airwaves.
The government controls your phone.
Never forget this.


Yes, that is why I wrap my mobile in baking foil and never use the same 
SIM more than once.


Andrew

(or am I...)

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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Sean Anderson]

On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 12:35 +0100, Kyle Gordon wrote:
> babaguy wrote:
> > Hi All - 
> >
> >
> >
> > Because I'm not a full-on Linux-wallah (to say the least) I just would like 
> > to know, is the Free Runner a phone/mobile internet device ? (I know that 
> > may be a REALLY dumb question, but still...) 
> >
> >
> >
> > - and ALSO if it IS a phone, does its FLOSSy interior mean it won't 
> > necessarily be sending moment-to-moment updates back to the NSA in the Old 
> > Country and Menwith Hill closer to (adopted) home...?
> >
> >
> >
> > Answers will be much appreciated...! 
> >
> >
> >
> > - babaguy
> >   
> 
> It is a mobile phone/internet device. All the specifications are open, 
> from the design of the casing to the software running the GPS chip. It's 
> aimed mainly at those of us that like that sort of thing, and would be 
> willing to tinker. Although they are hoping it will be mass-market ready 
> too.
> 
> As for the govt spying on you... well that's up to you and and your 
> network provider. Best ask them. The phone is just a passive component 
> in that game.
> 
> Kyle

Yes, but of course you must remember that cellphones were originally
invented to allow the CIA, the NSA, or indeed the masons (because
they're the same thing, really) to keep track of the population; why do
you think phones became so cheap and easy to come by?

The government controls the airwaves.
The government controls your phone.
Never forget this.

Truth out,
Sean.


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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Kyle Gordon]

babaguy wrote:
Hi All - 




Because I'm not a full-on Linux-wallah (to say the least) I just would like to know, is the Free Runner a phone/mobile internet device ? (I know that may be a REALLY dumb question, but still...) 




- and ALSO if it IS a phone, does its FLOSSy interior mean it won't necessarily 
be sending moment-to-moment updates back to the NSA in the Old Country and 
Menwith Hill closer to (adopted) home...?



Answers will be much appreciated...! 




- babaguy
  


It is a mobile phone/internet device. All the specifications are open, 
from the design of the casing to the software running the GPS chip. It's 
aimed mainly at those of us that like that sort of thing, and would be 
willing to tinker. Although they are hoping it will be mass-market ready 
too.


As for the govt spying on you... well that's up to you and and your 
network provider. Best ask them. The phone is just a passive component 
in that game.


Kyle

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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[babaguy]

Hi All - 



Because I'm not a full-on Linux-wallah (to say the least) I just would like to 
know, is the Free Runner a phone/mobile internet device ? (I know that may be a 
REALLY dumb question, but still...) 



- and ALSO if it IS a phone, does its FLOSSy interior mean it won't necessarily 
be sending moment-to-moment updates back to the NSA in the Old Country and 
Menwith Hill closer to (adopted) home...?



Answers will be much appreciated...! 



- babaguy



  

--- On Sun 05/25, sean anderson < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

From: sean anderson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk

Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:11:55 +0100

Subject: Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner



2008/5/25 Kyle Gordon :



> As some may have noticed, the FreeRunner is due to be released very soon.

> Apparently it's currently in the manufacturing stage and will cost $399 (

> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html)

>

> Group purchases are possible, if anyone is interested then please let's get

> together. There's a wiki page at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSaleswith 
> some folks in Edinburgh already listed at

> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Edinburgh

>

> Kyle





Well I'd be interested in that, I'd already signed the Hantslug

bulkbuy listbut

naturally it would be easier to get the phone from someone in

Glasgow/Edinburgh. Are there enough people in the area for a 12-pack?



Moniker42.

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Re: [Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[sean anderson]

2008/5/25 Kyle Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> As some may have noticed, the FreeRunner is due to be released very soon.
> Apparently it's currently in the manufacturing stage and will cost $399 (
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html)
>
> Group purchases are possible, if anyone is interested then please let's get
> together. There's a wiki page at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSaleswith 
> some folks in Edinburgh already listed at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Edinburgh
>
> Kyle


Well I'd be interested in that, I'd already signed the Hantslug
bulkbuy listbut
naturally it would be easier to get the phone from someone in
Glasgow/Edinburgh. Are there enough people in the area for a 12-pack?

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[Scottish] Openmoko FreeRunner

[Kyle Gordon]

As some may have noticed, the FreeRunner is due to be released very 
soon. Apparently it's currently in the manufacturing stage and will cost 
$399 (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html)


Group purchases are possible, if anyone is interested then please let's 
get together. There's a wiki page at 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales with some folks in Edinburgh 
already listed at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Edinburgh


Kyle

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