Re: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-12 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 04:10:24PM -, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote

> Do you boot from a floppy, 
> or did you install XP on another partition than the first, 
> or is there some way to overwrite the mbr when XP is on the first partition
> ? (lilo won't load because it doesn't like NTFS)
> (I might try grub anyway)

I have grub on the MBR, and XP installed on the 3rd partition of the
first hard disk. Grub is setup to boot the XP partition using the
chainload method. 

I would recocomend reading the grub documentation for your system,
make boot floppys and giving it a shot. Worked really well for me. :)

- Aidan

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RE: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-12 Thread Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant
Do you boot from a floppy, 
or did you install XP on another partition than the first, 
or is there some way to overwrite the mbr when XP is on the first partition
? (lilo won't load because it doesn't like NTFS)
(I might try grub anyway)

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On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:29:04AM +, Colin McKinnon wrote

> pathhaving used lilo for years, I've now converted to grub. It
reads 
> ext2/3, reiser and various other fs so you can boot up from a
floppy 
> disk, and if you can remember where you parked your kernel start
up your 
> original installation. I've not tried it on dual-boot box though.

Grub works incredibly well for multi-boot setups, including
chainloading and similar nifty things. I've sucesfully had rhl73,
rhl80, freebsd and windows XP cohabitting under grub without pain.

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Re: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-12 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:29:04AM +, Colin McKinnon wrote

> pathhaving used lilo for years, I've now converted to grub. It reads 
> ext2/3, reiser and various other fs so you can boot up from a floppy 
> disk, and if you can remember where you parked your kernel start up your 
> original installation. I've not tried it on dual-boot box though.

Grub works incredibly well for multi-boot setups, including
chainloading and similar nifty things. I've sucesfully had rhl73,
rhl80, freebsd and windows XP cohabitting under grub without pain.

- Aidan

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RE: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-12 Thread Colin . Speirs
Title: RE: [Scottish] Pin drop



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> 
> 
> either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening.


OK


I have 2 questions


1) Why do I always have to have my messages moderated before they get posted. I do an answer to a problem and I look like 

   a spastic when the message turns up 5 hours after everyone else has had a go and the thread's mutated into a 
   discussion on the difference in shoe sizes between NT4 and Solaris 9


2) Do I assume noone knows about actual Python training courses in Glasgow? (Thanks Gordon for the tutorial Info but the 

   work is actually willing to pay for training for the first time in years) The only course I could find was in a 
   village near Bath.


cds





Re: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-12 Thread Colin McKinnon
ray wrote:


On Tuesday 11 February 2003 18:26, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote:
 

Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot.  MS hasn't trashed anything
   


I used to have a multi-boot NT4/NT5/Linux machine and used the NT boot manager 
(boot.ini) to choose.  I found instructions at 
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html  that looks as if it is the 
 

Without wanting to go down the 'my bootloder is better than yours' 
pathhaving used lilo for years, I've now converted to grub. It reads 
ext2/3, reiser and various other fs so you can boot up from a floppy 
disk, and if you can remember where you parked your kernel start up your 
original installation. I've not tried it on dual-boot box though.

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Re: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread ray
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 18:26, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote:
> Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot.  MS hasn't trashed anything
> (yet), it just doesn't allow me to write Lilo on the MBR (NTFS), and so i
> use a floppy to boot Linux from hdb1.  Which i forgot at home.
> Thanks,

I used to have a multi-boot NT4/NT5/Linux machine and used the NT boot manager 
(boot.ini) to choose.  I found instructions at 
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html  that looks as if it is the 
method that I used.  I also used some software to mount an ext2 partition 
into NT.

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RE: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant
Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot.  MS hasn't trashed anything
(yet), it just doesn't allow me to write Lilo on the MBR (NTFS), and so i
use a floppy to boot Linux from hdb1.  Which i forgot at home.
Thanks,


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On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote:
> i have a question, but it's probably not very interesting : forgot
my boot
> disk at home, is there any way i could get Linux running ?  If no,
that's
> alright, i'm asking out of curiosity.  I do have partition magic
if that
> would help.

Depends what you're after.

If you're trying to get Linux up and running when MS has trashed
your MBR 
then get a prebuilt kernel from somewhere and
  dd if=kernel of=/dev/fd0
  rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1
(or wherever your root partition is).  Although this does rather
require a 
Linux machine up and running.

Alternatively, if you want a "full" Linux distro, try getting Tom's
root
and boot, install it onto a floppy and reboot.

HTH

Paul.


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RE: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread Paul Millar
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote:
> i have a question, but it's probably not very interesting : forgot my boot
> disk at home, is there any way i could get Linux running ?  If no, that's
> alright, i'm asking out of curiosity.  I do have partition magic if that
> would help.

Depends what you're after.

If you're trying to get Linux up and running when MS has trashed your MBR 
then get a prebuilt kernel from somewhere and
  dd if=kernel of=/dev/fd0
  rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1
(or wherever your root partition is).  Although this does rather require a 
Linux machine up and running.

Alternatively, if you want a "full" Linux distro, try getting Tom's root
and boot, install it onto a floppy and reboot.

HTH

Paul.


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RE: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire
willie, did you just drop one?

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RE: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant
i have a question, but it's probably not very interesting : forgot my boot
disk at home, is there any way i could get Linux running ?  If no, that's
alright, i'm asking out of curiosity.  I do have partition magic if that
would help.

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Sent:  11 February 2003 11:51
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: [Scottish] Pin drop

willie fleming wrote:
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Re: [Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread Allan Whiteford
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[Scottish] Pin drop

2003-02-11 Thread willie fleming


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