Re: [Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:30 am, Graeme Mathieson wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > on Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:07:53 +0100, David Marsh writes: > >> Epsons have an internal timer, which counts the pages you print, and > >> when it gets too high it just stops working, and reports an unknown > >> error. > > > > eek, is that for real? > > I'd hazard a guess that this is a feature of the Epson inkjet printers > which have a separate ink cartridge and print head. IIRC[1], most > inkjet printers of that era had a combined print head/cartridge and so > when the ink ran out you also replaced the print head. The Epson inkjet > I had only had a replaceable ink cartridge. This 'internal timer' was > probably the estimated lifetime of the print head. > > Footnotes: > [1] And I haven't touched an inkjet printer in *years*. Allegedly It is there to tell you to change the ink pads? But then if it is then why does it not give the error "You need to change the ink pads?" Because it would have to give you the option to ignore. This "mysterious" unknown error, makes you think ahh bugger it I will just get a new one. Because a few people who i spoke to who did take it to a service centre, got charged half the cost of the printer, and all the guy did was reset it and cut up some sponge and change the ink pads. -- Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:07 am, David Marsh wrote: > [Interleaved quoting: please read to end for all comments] > Phil Deane wrote in gmane.user-groups.linux.scottish: > about: Re: Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer? > > > Epsons have an internal timer, which counts the pages you print, and when > > it gets too high it just stops working, and reports an unknown error. > > eek, is that for real? > That's a seriously dodgy practice! Definatly for real. When I sued the prog it said my counter was at 11006. And it told me it stopped at 11000. It just said unknown error in Windows, and please take to technical centre. > > So, Epson follow the Monsanto GM-terminator-seeds school of business > ethics, then, do they.. :-( > > Is that a, uhh, 'feature' of all Epson printers or just some? > Do you know if there's a website detailing this? All Epson Inkjet I think. I found my solution on http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/printer/5/4186.html If you go to http://www.otd.com.ua it shows which printers they can get them for. > > > It happened to my epson stylus 580. > > > > Online I bought a program for $10 which you can use to reset it(in win 98 > > though) and now it works great again. > > Oh well, at least you can reset it, but it's a _very_ dodgy practice to > start with. Is there a Linux solution? No In Linux it just stopped. I had a dual boot system with xp and mandrake, and had to format a spare drive borrow a copy of 98, install it, add usb support, drivers etc, reset it them delete windows. Pain in the ass, but I was on the verge of buying a new printer a few times, until i found that. -- Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 10:30, Graeme Mathieson wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > on Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:07:53 +0100, David Marsh writes: > >> Epsons have an internal timer, which counts the pages you print, and > >> when it gets too high it just stops working, and reports an unknown > >> error. > > > > eek, is that for real? > > I'd hazard a guess that this is a feature of the Epson inkjet printers > which have a separate ink cartridge and print head. IIRC[1], most > inkjet printers of that era had a combined print head/cartridge and so > when the ink ran out you also replaced the print head. The Epson inkjet > I had only had a replaceable ink cartridge. This 'internal timer' was > probably the estimated lifetime of the print head. > > Footnotes: > [1] And I haven't touched an inkjet printer in *years*. My Epson Stylus 500 is still going strong, after 6 years. Mind you, I'm lucky if I print one page a fortnight. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:07:53 +0100, David Marsh writes: >> Epsons have an internal timer, which counts the pages you print, and >> when it gets too high it just stops working, and reports an unknown >> error. > > eek, is that for real? I'd hazard a guess that this is a feature of the Epson inkjet printers which have a separate ink cartridge and print head. IIRC[1], most inkjet printers of that era had a combined print head/cartridge and so when the ink ran out you also replaced the print head. The Epson inkjet I had only had a replaceable ink cartridge. This 'internal timer' was probably the estimated lifetime of the print head. Footnotes: [1] And I haven't touched an inkjet printer in *years*. -- Right now, there are scr1pt k1dd13s plotting to DDoS my network, my co-lo server is not responding to pings and the people that I IRC with may be involved in both. I'm sysadmin Graeme Mathieson and this is the longest day of my life. http://www.wossname.org.uk/ ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
On Monday 16 June 2003 1:32 pm, David Marsh wrote: > > Actually, when I got my new printer (Epson Stylus C60) it was precisely > because Epsons were well-supported in Linux through CUPS/gimp-print, which, > at the time lowish-end HPs weren't (I think in fact HP were being very > secretive and uncooperative with the driver writers). In general, I do have > a lot of respect for HP but it seems that after the days of the DJ 5xx > series 'armoured vehicles' they did go through a phase of dumbing down > their consumer printers _too much_ and down the dark road of Winprinters > they did go.. :-( Epsons have an internal timer, which counts the pages you print, and when it gets too high it just stops working, and reports an unknown error. It happened to my epson stylus 580. Online I bought a program for $10 which you can use to reset it(in win 98 though) and now it works great again. -- Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
Mike Quin wrote: > [snip] > > I'll be very surpised if any of the current crop of entry-level inkjets > are still usable in 13 years. Mmmm, I agree for most brand - Lexmark springs to mind as being 'flimsy', but my DeskJet 840C is very well built, and it's still doing well after > two years of sterling service. I think hp are one of the few printer manufacturers who haven't wholly succumbed to the 'dumb' printer ethos, hiving all the smarts off to the (invariably Windows) PC. The original DeskJets were built like tanks tho, as were the "proper" LaserJets (e.g. the ones with proper bins and output space on the top, not like the 5L and variants). I only recall losing an hp printer to just general wear and tear, e.g. several hundred pages a day for about three or four years. Great printers. -- _ __/| ___ ___ __ _ "When Microsoft Office is your only hammer, \`O_o' / _ \/ -_) // / __/ _ \ pretty much everything begins to look like =(_ _)=/_//_/\__/\_,_/_/ \___/ a nail. Or a thumb." -- Rob Pegoraro U - Ack! Phttpt! Thhbbt! neuro at well dot com http://neuro.me.uk/ ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 12:40:58PM +0100 or thereabouts, David Marsh wrote: > I'd never have thought that there would be such demand for such an > old printer. It's a solid, reliable bit of kit - my 500 is still doing the rounds somewhere (I think one of my cousins has it). I'll be very surpised if any of the current crop of entry-level inkjets are still usable in 13 years. -- Mike Quin, Unix Sysadmin, Information Services, University of Stirling Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: +44-1786-467273 Fax: +44-1786-466882 Post: 2B24, Cottrell Building, University of Stirling, STIRLING FK9 4LA -- The University of Stirling is a university established in Scotland by charter at Stirling, FK9 4LA. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not disclose, copy or deliver this message to anyone and any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the University of Stirling shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
