for some reason i've recieved a lot of e-mail, public and private about what i've said. some people agreeing with me, appluading me for sticking up for the actual rules of the list when no one wants to do it anymore, and some people criticizing me and saying i'm trying to "enforce the law" while the list owner is out of town. i'm tired of responding. so i just won't anymore. considered this my last post on such topics. ever. i ask that you read the sdre-l welcome message and follow the rules stated therein. i ask that you keep in mind everything you send is sent to 200+ people. i ask that you keep in mind for the two or three people that might respond to yr off-topic post, there are many more who are pestered daily by off-topic clutter. many people who have i have met in #SDRE chat are former members of the mailing list who left because they couldn't handle the amount of mail that has nothing to do w/ sunny day. it's not fair to make this list, which should be for all sunny day fans, a place where people don't want to be. i pretty much have to be on this list... since i run #SDRE chat (which is soon becoming the official sunny day chat channel... stay tuned...), my own audio site, and help w/ the official site. i stay on here to keep informed. but i really don't like it anymore, and i'm not alone. you can call me an asshole for that if you like... but why? anyway, anyway... here is some cool info i got from joe... first of all, for those wondering about the new "loud" ending of "days were golden"... so far they've only played it that way at the UW show in april. basically it's up to jeremy every night if they want to do it or not, and the show at UW was the only time so far. also... the set lists are going to remain pretty much the same until they begin work on the new album... but once they start playing shows on the fourth album, expect not only new songs live, but some old songs they have yet to play.