Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
2009/8/2 Yaron Koren : > Keeping with my preference for having property names be prepositional > phrases, how about "Has improper value for"? "Has improper value for" ++ Dan. > I should note that I hope that properties with blank values don't get > included in this accounting. Speaking of which, let me note that I also > think it would be great if blank values stopped being viewed as errors in > general. > > -Yaron > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Markus Krötzsch > wrote: >> >> The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to >> find >> input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the wrong >> value >> was assigned to. For example, if you put >> >> [[my date property::not a date]] >> >> on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then SMW >> will >> automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". >> >> This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call this >> new >> special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, as >> for >> example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the >> property takes another property as its value, not an error message. >> >> User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? >> >> >> >> -- >> Markus Krötzsch >> Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org >> http://korrekt.org mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus >> on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> ___ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
On Sonntag, 2. August 2009, Markus Krötzsch wrote: ... > > I should note that I hope that properties with blank values don't get > > included in this accounting. Speaking of which, let me note that I also > > think it would be great if blank values stopped being viewed as errors in > > general. > > The problem is that a value object can only have two states right now: > either it represents some value, or it returns an error. But maybe one > could ignore empty strings right during parsing to avoid getting any > feedback at all. Feel free to file a request ... Do not file a request: it's done. Completely empty values (not even a space) are now ignored in [[ :: ]]. No more errors. -- Markus > > > -Yaron > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Markus Krötzsch < > > > > mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > > The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to > > > find input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the > > > wrong value > > > was assigned to. For example, if you put > > > > > > [[my date property::not a date]] > > > > > > on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then > > > SMW will > > > automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". > > > > > > This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call this > > > new special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be > > > unwieldy, as for > > > example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that > > > the property takes another property as its value, not an error message. > > > > > > User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Markus Krötzsch > > > Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org > > > http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > >-- - Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports > > > 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > > > deployment - and focus on > > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > > ___ > > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
On Sonntag, 2. August 2009, Jeff Thompson wrote: > Suppose "my date property" is "birthdate". Instead of [[birthdate::not a > date]], I think it be the other way around: > [[not a date::birthdate]] > so that it won't be confused with other property values for birthdate. I think there is still some misunderstanding here: we do not intend to add [[birthdate::not a date]]. We are looking for a new property name X for which we would add [[X::Property:birthdate]]. This is similar to your second case, but we will not have X being specific to Type:Date (or to a particular error message). Rather, X will mean something like "invalid value given to property" and be applied to all properties and errors. -- Markus > > Markus Krötzsch wrote: > > The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to > > find > > input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the > > wrong value > > was assigned to. For example, if you put > > > > [[my date property::not a date]] > > > > on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then > > SMW will > > automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". > > > > This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call > > this new > > special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, > > as for > > example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the > > property takes another property as its value, not an error message. > > > > User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > >- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > > 30-Day > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > > focus on > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > > > > > > > ___ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Markus, first of all, thanks for the upcoming new release! Highly appreciated :) On 2009-08-02 21:32, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to find > input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the wrong value > was assigned to. For example, if you put > > [[my date property::not a date]] > > on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then SMW will > automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". > > This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call this new > special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, as for > example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the > property takes another property as its value, not an error message. > > User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? How about "Has wrong type"? Patrick. - -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkp132EACgkQyYHmhobjRtSjRgCguOWG814gc8w3sdWgtApzpMuS ikIAoNIBtvOayPZdIxotqqKrR+s/Vu17 =bLc1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
Suppose "my date property" is "birthdate". Instead of [[birthdate::not a date]], I think it be the other way around: [[not a date::birthdate]] so that it won't be confused with other property values for birthdate. Markus Krötzsch wrote: > The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to > find > input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the > wrong value > was assigned to. For example, if you put > > [[my date property::not a date]] > > on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then > SMW will > automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". > > This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call > this new > special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, > as for > example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the > property takes another property as its value, not an error message. > > User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? > > > > > > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > > > ___ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
On Sonntag, 2. August 2009, Yaron Koren wrote: > Keeping with my preference for having property names be prepositional > phrases, how about "Has improper value for"? Ok, preference noted. > > I should note that I hope that properties with blank values don't get > included in this accounting. Speaking of which, let me note that I also > think it would be great if blank values stopped being viewed as errors in > general. The problem is that a value object can only have two states right now: either it represents some value, or it returns an error. But maybe one could ignore empty strings right during parsing to avoid getting any feedback at all. Feel free to file a request ... -- Markus > > -Yaron > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Markus Krötzsch < > > mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to > > find input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the > > wrong value > > was assigned to. For example, if you put > > > > [[my date property::not a date]] > > > > on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then SMW > > will > > automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". > > > > This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call this > > new special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, > > as for > > example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the > > property takes another property as its value, not an error message. > > > > User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? > > > > > > > > -- > > Markus Krötzsch > > Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org > > http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org > > > > > > > > - > >- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > > 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - > > and focus on > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > ___ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
Keeping with my preference for having property names be prepositional phrases, how about "Has improper value for"? I should note that I hope that properties with blank values don't get included in this accounting. Speaking of which, let me note that I also think it would be great if blank values stopped being viewed as errors in general. -Yaron On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to find > input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the wrong > value > was assigned to. For example, if you put > > [[my date property::not a date]] > > on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then SMW > will > automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". > > This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call this new > special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, as > for > example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the > property takes another property as its value, not an error message. > > User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? > > > > -- > Markus Krötzsch > Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org > http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org > > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] Poll: How to call error property?
The upcoming SMW release 1.4.3 will introduce a property that helps to find input errors: its value will be the page of the property that the wrong value was assigned to. For example, if you put [[my date property::not a date]] on page "Test1" (where the property would expect a valid date), then SMW will automatically store the value "Property:my date property" for "Test1". This is surely useful for maintenance. The question is how to call this new special property. Sufficiently descriptive names tend to be unwieldy, as for example "error for property" or "input error for". The point is that the property takes another property as its value, not an error message. User poll: How would you prefer this to be called? -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWikihttp://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.orgmar...@semantic-mediawiki.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
