Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 219, Issue 7

2016-09-12 Thread Sue Beswick
Our lab norm goes up to 2.2. Any thing above that gets called. We had our 
sepsis team lead physician talk to lab about the importance of severe sepsis 
before it gets worse (4.0 or hypotension).  Lab was concerned about too many 
extra calls but it's worked out fine

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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 172, Issue 8

2015-09-29 Thread Sue Beswick
My understanding is that they need the fluid challenge and then recheck the LA 
(or continued hypotension) to be septic shock.  Some patients respond and 
improve with the fluids so our mantra is "it isn't septic shock till after 
initial fluids".

Sue

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Just for clarification purposes-

A patient comes in at 2000 with SIRS criteria + documented pneumonia + lactate 
level of 5.47 = severe sepsis, however wouldn't this also be the time clock for 
the septic shock due to the lactate level > 4? I was thinking that both severe 
sepsis and septic shock time clocks would had started at the same time due to 
the lactate level.
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Hi Dr. Townsend,
 
I completely understand now the CMS SEP-1 measure ?shock clock? time zero 
starts when the you have tissue hypoperfusion, evidenced by either initial 
lactate > 4 or persistent hypotension in the hour after crystalloids fluids 
given. Am I the only one that was totally mixed up thinking the shock clock 
started with severe sepsis with hypotension or lactate greater than 4? I feel a 
little foolish as I posted a few things. I am now cleared up but just wondering 
if you can help explain if there was/is a difference at all with how the SSC 
did ?shock clock time zero? and how CMS is doing shock clock time zero.
Thank you so much for all your hard work!
 
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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 162, Issue 3

2015-06-25 Thread Sue Beswick
If getting an ABG - will do an extended panel which includes LA
We can get a venous sample and run it on our ABG analyzer in the ED or can send 
a venous sample to Lab but it takes longer to get results. 
EMS providers will get a tube on patients in the field.  Techs or RN's can get 
the sample.

We did evaluate running LA with venous sample and running on the ABG analyzer.  
We checked tourniquet time impact and matched values to assure accuracy.  

Repeat values can be done either of the three ways.  What's chosen depends on 
how sick the patient is and how quickly it's needed.  

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   2. Mortality rate measure with ICD-10 migration
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   3. Standard deviations and Heart rate (shelley storozuk)


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Who is doing POC lactates in the emergency department?  How are you doing 
repeat lactates?  Do you have any accuracy data or cost data to do POC 
lactates?  Jeanie Bollinger

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Hello,


I'm curious what other systems are contemplating regarding sepsis mortality 
measurement after the transition to ICD-10?


We have been using the Dombrovskiy criteria as our main outcome metric for many 
years now. After ICD-10, which code(s) will people use?


Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts


Joe


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There is much written about standard deviation and how it relates to the heart 
rate when in sepsis, but where can this information be found? As an emergency 
nurse I do not know what the numerical range for 2 standard deviations outside 
of a normal heart rate for an adult is? Or for children? Can someone explain 
this or provide some reference material

Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 133, Issue 1

2014-11-17 Thread Sue Beswick
1. yes
2. All are on the list even though WBC's are not available yet
3. No, although BP would factor in for severe sepsis criteria
4. yes
5. automatic goes along side putting the info that we have a suspected case to 
the physician
6. both.  There is a screen on the EMR asking if patient meets criteria but we 
use a paper tool to track time to LA, abx, etc.


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I would like to ask a question concerning your sepsis screening process during 
triage in the ED.  This would include triage prior to arriving in an ED 
treatment room and all EMS arrivals.


1.Does the triage nurse screen for sepsis?

2.   If so, how many SIRS criteria are included?

3.   Are any other criteria included that are not the SCCM SIRS criteria: 
glucose, SPO2, BP

4.   Is suspect or documented infection included in the screen?

5.   If the screen is positive, are any labs automatically ordered or does 
a MD have to see the patient first?

6.   Is this screen completed electronically or on a paper form?

Thank-you so much for your input.

Jeanie Bollinger MSN,RN,ACCNS-AG, CCRN
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[Sepsis Groups] EMS and early identification of Sepsis

2014-07-17 Thread Sue Beswick
To continue improving our sepsis outcomes, we are looking at our EMS.

Our EMS county providers are interested in doing lactates in the field and 
possibly giving a broad spectrum antibiotic based on an algorithm.

Is anyone else doing either of these?

Thanks
Sue

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Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsisgroups Digest, Vol 105, Issue 1 - point of care lab testing

2014-04-18 Thread Sue Beswick
We worked out a process with our lab.  The sick patients need an ABG anyway - 
so we draw with extended panel.  The patients with less severe symptoms, the ED 
RN or Tech adds an ABG syringe to their venous lab draws and RT runs it on the 
ABG analyzer in ED. We did testing to assure the process works well, that the 
tourniquet doesn't impact values, etc. The process works quite well.

Sue   

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Good Morning,

Can anyone share their experience with point of care lactate testing?  We are 
currently evaluating our processes and examining the pros and cons associated 
with various techniques (venous draw to lab vs ABG vs POC).

Thank you!

-Candi

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Us to.  If the field fluids were used in the decision about fluid dosage in the 
ED, then it must be counted. It's similar to AMI metrics - if the aspirin was 
given by the medics we don't ask that it be given again...

Joseph Clement RN, MS, CCNS
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In some of our EMS groups, we have taught them to screen for severe sepsis, and 
if hypotension is present, they begin a fluid bolus. 
We count this fluid.  Assuming that the ride is not 3 hours, it is in close 
enough proximity to time zero to be counted
 
Thanks,
Mary Ann Barnes-Daly, RN BSN CCRN DC
Regional Clinical Initiative Lead-Sepsis and ICU Liberation (ABCDE) Gordon and 
Betty Moore

Re: [Sepsis Groups] flu and choice of antibiotic or not to give one?

2014-02-04 Thread Sue Beswick
With our severe sepsis flu admits, a number are being admitted without a broad 
spectrum antibiotics - only getting tamiflu.
We aren't using the sepsis database yet but hope to soon - would that be a fail?

Thanks
Sue

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Under oxygenation, am I correct to assume this pertains to intubated patients 
only?

Under FIO2 0.5 or more, A-aDO-is that the same as A-a Grad? What is this 
exactly?
 .05, use PAo-is this the same as PO2?, if not, what is it and how do I find 
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Regarding #3. On screen 2: in evaluating the acute lung injury, does the 
patient have to be intubated for this or just have an ABG?

Dian Nuxoll, RN, BSN Clinical Quality Analyst - Quality Management
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[Sepsis Groups] Changing ED sepsis screen during flu season

2012-12-13 Thread Sue Beswick
There are some concerns that we will be doing extra/unnecessary testing (blood 
culture, Lactate, etc) with all of the flu patients who have a temp and 
increased heart rate during the flu season.

Do any of your facilities, modify your sepsis screen in ED for flu?   Do you 
look at the known or suspected infection and say probable flu so does not meet 
sepsis screen?

Thanks
Sue

Sue Beswick RN, MS, CCNS, CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist - MSICU
Greenville Hosptial System
University Medical Center
Greenville, SC
Office:  864-455-4884

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[Sepsis Groups] mortality

2012-12-07 Thread Sue Beswick
When counting mortality, how do you then account for the coding issues?  We 
find there are severe sepsis pts that get coded for other things and some that 
get coded for severe sepsis that really don't meet the criteria.

Sue

Sue Beswick RN, MS, CCNS, CCRN
CNS Critical Care
Greenville Hospital System
Greenville, SC
Office: 864-455-4884

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