RE: My Status, and James RoadMap
Nevermind. It bugged me all morning trying to remember why someone had raised a licensing issue, and I finally recalled the actual issue, which has nothing to do with James. The Thomas Mueller advertising clause prevents HSQLDB from being proposed for Incubation as an ASF project. It has no effect on our being able to bundle hsqldb, since that is addressable in the NOTICE file, and it would not be a hard dependency. The irony of this whole discussion is that I brought up the idea of incorporating HypersonicSQL/hsqldb two years ago, so that we could depend upon the presence of a SQL database: > Honestly, I'd love to can file system user repositories in favor of > at least using HyperSonicSQL bundled with James, but there does not > appear to be any consensus to do that. ref: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] .org&msgNo=4123 > I'm hoping that in James v3 we will include hsqldb, so that we can > always assume the presence of a database ref: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] .org&msgId=647741 > > Having a JDBC database as a known part of the environment is > > getting better and better. > Heh, sure. Ok maybe we do this at least for configuration stuff. I know > embeding hypersonic (?) is something you'd like to see. ref: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] .org&msgId=591339 We already have HypersonicSQL support in sqlResources.xml. The current version of the HypersonicSQL block for Phoenix appears to be http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/hsqldb/hsql-component/. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My Status, and James RoadMap
I am somewhat unlearned in the licensing end, and need to be otherwise. I have read the HSQLDB license and it seems to be unexceptional to me. I have a law degree, and this seems to be a clear open source agreement to me. Can you guys educate me on the issues here? The licenses are very simple, so the issues cannot be that deep. Michael At 11:31 PM 6/18/2004, Serge Knystautas wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Well, as I said, people can try whatever databases they want. But I don't see the point of using it if you can't distribute it. Seems to me that the primary reason for it is convenience/turnkey distribution. The ASF may not feel it is open source enough, but that's our requirement, not someone else's. The licensing point just sounds like FUD. Anyway, the license itself from my reading is BSD-style. http://hsqldb.sourceforge.net/web/hsqlLicense.html -- Serge Knystautas Lokitech >>> software . strategy . design >> http://www.lokitech.com p. 301.656.5501 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: My Status, and James RoadMap
Thanks, Noel. Could you give a short statement of why that is? If so, thanks in advance. Michael At 10:20 PM 6/18/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Would you not recommend HSQLDB? People can try whatever databases they want. But IIRC, the HSQLDB license is not compatible with distribution by James. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
