Re: [Server-devel] [Localization] OT is there a Content or Curriculum olpc email list

2008-04-03 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Yama, please see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for content discussions and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for aspects of
usability (discussions about interface design are usually directed to
sugar).  There is no list about teacher training, though there is an
educators list that was initially set up with related discussions in mind
that has been dormant.

SJ

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Yama Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please forgive me for this message and crosspost, but after meandering
 sort of all over laptop.org I cannot find an equivalent to these most
 excellent Server and Localization lists.

 Do any of you know if such a content or curriculum list exists and how I
 can sign up for it?
 Also, is there something going on about Usability? about Teacher
 Training besides the wiki?

 If there's no list yet, who are the admins and how I can contact them
 for those areas of the project?

 (if nothing else, my efforts in this have shown me that usability is a
 major to do...)

 Thanks,

 Yama
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Re: [Server-devel] OT is there a Content or Curriculum olpc email list?

2008-04-03 Thread Bryan Berry
Yama wrote:
Do any of you know if such a content or curriculum list exists and how
I can sign up for it?

To my knowledge, no. But we definitely need one. I know that Bipul,
Kamana, and Saurav from our team would be very much interested. myself
as well.

You can start one yourself. I believe you can just send an e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to request one.


-- 
Bryan W. Berry
Systems Engineer
OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org


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Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-03 Thread Ryan Crawford Comeaux
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Michail Bletsas wrote:

  Let's not forget that you need some fixed reference points.
  In commercial systems, the locations of the access points are well
  known.
  In ad-hoc networks the best that you can hope for is a topological map.
 

 the assumption was that the measurements are being done from fixed points.
 either the school server antenna locations, or the known locations of
 specific assistant laptops.

 without known locations you can't do much.

 David Lang


Suppose you have your initial fixed points with known locations (server
antennas and any standalone repeaters).  Wouldn't you be able to identify
temporarily stationary points that, after deducing their locations, could
be deemed additional listening stations?  Once a node is identified as
such, any additional measurements it provides can be deemed credible and
then used to determine the locations of less stationary nodes.

As David said, some commercial solutions require calibration by walking a
node around the premises.  I think this has been shown to be fairly accurate
for a single AP's coverage area without having to add additional APs to the
network.

Most of the comments have been along the lines of using single measurements
to identify distances of separation.  I think a better solution would be to
include the mesh's routing table, packet arrival times, etc. along with RSSI
measurements.  If you generate one or more likely maps from each and then
average them out, I suspect you'd get a fairly accurate estimation of where
everybody is.  Coupled with preloaded measurements from around the premises,
a viable solution seems likely.

Is the XS capable of installing/pushing applications onto XOs
automatically?  If so, that allows for a very easy way to let the XOs
participate in the process without bothering users, as well as distributing
some of the number-crunching to take make things easier for the XS app.

Am I displaying complete naivety here about everything involved or does any
of this stuff make sense to you guys?

-Crawford
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