Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
One could probably try and roll a 2GB image so it can be installed directly to the internal flash memory... However you'd still need a SD card or a pen drive for storing content but they can be on separate partitions. This way you could add remove content without worrying about the server os itself. On Jun 18, 2013 11:15 AM, "David Leeming" wrote: > Thanks all for the great help and information. I will install the 13.1.0 os > on my 1.5 on an external 8GB SD card and then test the XCSE installation, > and let you know. > > David Leeming > Solomon Islands > > > -Original Message- > From: qu...@us.netrek.org [mailto:qu...@us.netrek.org] On Behalf Of James > Cameron > Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013 4:30 p.m. > To: Jerry Vonau > Cc: George Hunt; David Leeming; server-devel; Michael Hutak; Ian Thomson; > David Farning > Subject: Re: Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing > XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:20:04AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > This was the issue, no matter how careful I was inserting the > > SD-card the tab would move to locked. I used a dab of instant glue, > > that was enough to prevent the tab from moving. > > Ah, good. Yes, I've heard of that. Also, as it works fine for > fs-update it makes one think it is not write protected. I don't know > if there is a specification for the force required to move the tab. > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Thanks all for the great help and information. I will install the 13.1.0 os on my 1.5 on an external 8GB SD card and then test the XCSE installation, and let you know. David Leeming Solomon Islands -Original Message- From: qu...@us.netrek.org [mailto:qu...@us.netrek.org] On Behalf Of James Cameron Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013 4:30 p.m. To: Jerry Vonau Cc: George Hunt; David Leeming; server-devel; Michael Hutak; Ian Thomson; David Farning Subject: Re: Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:20:04AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > This was the issue, no matter how careful I was inserting the > SD-card the tab would move to locked. I used a dab of instant glue, > that was enough to prevent the tab from moving. Ah, good. Yes, I've heard of that. Also, as it works fine for fs-update it makes one think it is not write protected. I don't know if there is a specification for the force required to move the tab. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:20:04AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > This was the issue, no matter how careful I was inserting the > SD-card the tab would move to locked. I used a dab of instant glue, > that was enough to prevent the tab from moving. Ah, good. Yes, I've heard of that. Also, as it works fine for fs-update it makes one think it is not write protected. I don't know if there is a specification for the force required to move the tab. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14:23PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > I just tried the devalias trick using 13.2.0 as the OS on a XO-4. On > initial boot it drops me into dracut appearing to complain about a > read-only filesystem while attempting resize. Any thoughts on how to > debug this? Sure. Check the write protect tab on the card. Check with another XO-4 in case the socket write protect switch is faulty. Boot into Linux from another boot device, such as the internal eMMC or a Tiny Core Linux on USB drive, then check that you can mount the external SD card for write, and write to it. fs-update does not honour the write protect on an SD card; it is purely an advisory write protect, and Open Firmware doesn't take this advice ... "which is an optional feature of the SD specification." [1] (I'm running an XO-4 as a builder with swap on external SD, and it seems to work fine for that.) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Card_security "Write-protect notch" -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 09:20:20PM -0400, George Hunt wrote: > I ordered a 64GB SD, and have it in hand. It is formatted with exfat > disk format, apparently a Microsoft proprietary standard. There is > a driver for exfat, but it is not shipped with the XO, so there was > some truth to the hearsay that 64GB SD cards do not work on the > XO. BUT . . . > > I was able to read exfat formatted "out of the box" transcend 64GB > drive on a XO1.5, with a downloaded driver, so I expect that > electrical compatibility is already established. It is the protocol compatibility that causes us problems. There's this tiny computer inside the card which has to interoperate with our computer. And from what you describe above, you haven't yet tested the protocol compatibility with Open Firmware. You have to boot from it to test that. > I think you will want it to be formatted with ext4, because the OS > doesn't run on a FAT formated drive. I should caution that I have > read that SD cards have an erase block size that makes it important > to preserve the partition location and sizing, as the disk format is > being erased and reformatted. If you use the drive for the operating system, there's no need to partition or format, because the fs-update of 13.1.0 .zd file will create all that is required. Just make sure you use the devalias fsdisk ext:0 trick to persuade fs-update to use the external slot. During boot, the operating system may expand the filesystem to cover the rest of the device. > I do not expect that the "prep-storage.sh" script which is part of > XSCE-0.3, will correctly format a 64GB SD card. I do not know > whether the XSCE install process will properly function when it is > loaded into a 64GB SD. (I expect probably so, since I don't think > the OS would know whether it was running on the mother board or on > an external SD card). It must know, and does know. > I'll experiment with my new SD card, and try to document the results > with a script that you can use to format big SD cards. I suggest gparted for partitioning and formatting. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
I ordered a 64GB SD, and have it in hand. It is formatted with exfat disk format, apparently a Microsoft proprietary standard. There is a driver for exfat, but it is not shipped with the XO, so there was some truth to the hearsay that 64GB SD cards do not work on the XO. BUT . . . I was able to read exfat formatted "out of the box" transcend 64GB drive on a XO1.5, with a downloaded driver, so I expect that electrical compatibility is already established. I think you will want it to be formatted with ext4, because the OS doesn't run on a FAT formated drive. I should caution that I have read that SD cards have an erase block size that makes it important to preserve the partition location and sizing, as the disk format is being erased and reformatted. I do not expect that the "prep-storage.sh" script which is part of XSCE-0.3, will correctly format a 64GB SD card. I do not know whether the XSCE install process will properly function when it is loaded into a 64GB SD. (I expect probably so, since I don't think the OS would know whether it was running on the mother board or on an external SD card). I'll experiment with my new SD card, and try to document the results with a script that you can use to format big SD cards. George On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM, David Leeming wrote: > In the Pacific Islands we have at least couple of recent deployments. I > have been helping in the Solomons with a 200 XO deployment sponsored by a > regional bank. They only received the shipment some weeks ago. In Fiji a > few months ago, Ian Thomson supervised a larger deployment with the > Ministry of Education and a regional university (USP). It seems that in > both cases, we have been shipped XO-1.5s with only 2GB installed with > release 11.3.1. I do not know the history of that. > > ** ** > > This is causing us a lot of headaches. The Journals become full as there > is less than 100MB free space out of the box. There are work arounds but > it’s less than optimal. We can delete Wikipedia-ES that gives us an extra > 100MB, but then as we want to add our own favourite Activities that are not > included in the release, we end up with the same issue. It’s a problem for > children and teachers, even if they are taught to manage their Journals – I > imagine it would be disruptive in class. > > ** ** > > The above is really not an issue for this particular list but it is > relevant because we would really like to experiment with XCSE, which > requires release 13.1.0 as the starting point. Now we see that we can’t > install 13.1.0 on the internal drive because the os image is too large (see > attached). We understand that if we want the XOs to be upgradable, we can > increase the internal memory but (a) it would take 100+ hours to do so on > all the several hundred XOs, and (b) we understand that the compatibility > of cards can be an issue, even within the same brand. > > ** ** > > The option of installing it on an external SD card is interesting, and I > am going to try that. However, we want to add content storage too – so > we’ll need a 32GB or 64GB card. Would be interested to know if anyone has > tried with such a sized card. If we can do that, and have the content > stored on the same card, it would be the best solution for us. > > ** ** > > The reason we are so interested in the XSCE is because it means the > schools would not depend on a single non-XO machine for the school server. > We would want a solution where it’s easy to swap if something goes wrong. > These schools are very remote, and it will not possible to download large > amounts of data during installs etc, neither do they have sustainable > technical skills on hand. > > ** ** > > For these reasons the XSCE on a bootable external memory card is the best > strategy. As long as (a) we can use a 64GB card to include our content > storage and (b) that it will boot on any XO-1.5 2GB machine without any > preparation. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *David Leeming* > > Solomon Islands > > ** ** > > *From:* David Leeming [mailto:da...@leeming-consulting.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 17 June 2013 8:58 p.m. > *To:* 'George Hunt'; 'David Farning' > *Cc:* 'Jerry Vonau'; 'server-devel' > *Subject:* RE: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 > > ** ** > > Still trying to set up my XO-1.5 2GB ready for XSCE, which as per advice > requires the 13.1.0 release as starting point. > > ** ** > > I downloaded the 13.1.0 files as per > > ** ** > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5 > > ** ** > > 31036o1.zd > > 31036o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip > > ** ** > > Copied to a newly formatted 1GB USB stick, and checked the zd file md5sum > matched > > Renamed the zip to fs1.zip > > ** ** > > Tried it: > > ** ** > > Fails as per attached. Renaming the fs1.zip as fs.zip makes no difference. > > > ** ** > > Tried on a 2GB stick, also reformatted. No luck. Firmware seems OK. > > ** ** > > Something I am mis
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:12 PM, David Leeming wrote: > In the Pacific Islands we have at least couple of recent deployments. I have > been helping in the Solomons with a 200 XO deployment sponsored by a > regional bank. They only received the shipment some weeks ago. In Fiji a few > months ago, Ian Thomson supervised a larger deployment with the Ministry of > Education and a regional university (USP). It seems that in both cases, we > have been shipped XO-1.5s with only 2GB installed with release 11.3.1. I do > not know the history of that. This is a common situation. This initial purchase price seems daunting so initial decision makers cut cost by purchasing 'lite' versions for hardware without fully realizing that initial purchase seems to near about 33% of the total cost per laptop when spread across the life of the device. Your milage may vary but 33% of the cost is a reasonable starting point for budget makers as the deployment grows and you can share fixed expenses across more and more units. > This is causing us a lot of headaches. The Journals become full as there is > less than 100MB free space out of the box. There are work arounds but it’s > less than optimal. We can delete Wikipedia-ES that gives us an extra 100MB, > but then as we want to add our own favourite Activities that are not > included in the release, we end up with the same issue. It’s a problem for > children and teachers, even if they are taught to manage their Journals – I > imagine it would be disruptive in class. This is a interesting situation where the XSCE can really help. We have been UY has been deploy an version of Sugar which uses Webdav. With Webdev on on both the server and the client it allows users to treat the XSCE as personal cloud storage. While it may not be optimal it will provide the user experience of more space while connected. > The above is really not an issue for this particular list but it is relevant > because we would really like to experiment with XCSE, which requires release > 13.1.0 as the starting point. Now we see that we can’t install 13.1.0 on the > internal drive because the os image is too large (see attached). We > understand that if we want the XOs to be upgradable, we can increase the > internal memory but (a) it would take 100+ hours to do so on all the several > hundred XOs, and (b) we understand that the compatibility of cards can be an > issue, even within the same brand. +1 I would start by adding an internal SD card to the machines you intend to use as servers. > The option of installing it on an external SD card is interesting, and I am > going to try that. However, we want to add content storage too – so we’ll > need a 32GB or 64GB card. Would be interested to know if anyone has tried > with such a sized card. If we can do that, and have the content stored on > the same card, it would be the best solution for us. Bhagmalpur is using a 64GB external SSD. My Sameer could explain the reason for the decision. > The reason we are so interested in the XSCE is because it means the schools > would not depend on a single non-XO machine for the school server. We would > want a solution where it’s easy to swap if something goes wrong. These > schools are very remote, and it will not possible to download large amounts > of data during installs etc, neither do they have sustainable technical > skills on hand. I agree, inventory management seems to be the best argument in favor of XOs as School Servers. As the deployment grows special purpose hardware seems to be start looking better. > For these reasons the XSCE on a bootable external memory card is the best > strategy. As long as (a) we can use a 64GB card to include our content > storage and (b) that it will boot on any XO-1.5 2GB machine without any > preparation. To whet your appetite, the team at XSCE has started talking to hardware vendors about special purpose school servers. In July George, Jerry, and Adam will have a first prototype on hand for the July sprint in Winnipeg :) > David Leeming > > Solomon Islands > > > > From: David Leeming [mailto:da...@leeming-consulting.com] > Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 8:58 p.m. > To: 'George Hunt'; 'David Farning' > Cc: 'Jerry Vonau'; 'server-devel' > Subject: RE: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 > > > > Still trying to set up my XO-1.5 2GB ready for XSCE, which as per advice > requires the 13.1.0 release as starting point. > > > > I downloaded the 13.1.0 files as per > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5 > > > > 31036o1.zd > > 31036o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip > > > > Copied to a newly formatted 1GB USB stick, and checked the zd file md5sum > matched > > Renamed the zip to fs1.zip > > > > Tried it: > > > > Fails as per attached. Renaming the fs1.zip as fs.zip makes no difference. > > > > Tried on a 2GB stick, also reformatted. No luck. Firmware seems OK. > > > > Something I am missing about the 2GB version of the XO-1.5 ??? > > > > David Leeming > > > >
Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
OK, didn't know you can do that. That's pretty convenient. First I have to get a dev key to unlock it, will take another 24 hrs. BTW I had to do it from file:///home/.devkey.html because the link in Browse led to a secure connection failure due to invalid certificate. David -Original Message- From: David Farning [mailto:dfarn...@activitycentral.com] Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 9:24 p.m. To: David Leeming Cc: George Hunt; Jerry Vonau; server-devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 Yikes, you are having some bad luck with this install. Thanks for your patience. I looks like the 1.5 "lite" does not have enough space for the 13.1.0 image. You will need almost an 8gb hard disk in order to proceed with the installation. If the internal hard disk is less than that, you can use a sdcard to install the system, check the following instructions:http://activitycentral.com/community/news/installing-os-sd-card . We are adding this note to the install page. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:57 AM, David Leeming wrote: > Still trying to set up my XO-1.5 2GB ready for XSCE, which as per advice > requires the 13.1.0 release as starting point. > > > > I downloaded the 13.1.0 files as per > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5 > > > > 31036o1.zd > > 31036o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip > > > > Copied to a newly formatted 1GB USB stick, and checked the zd file md5sum > matched > > Renamed the zip to fs1.zip > > > > Tried it: > > > > Fails as per attached. Renaming the fs1.zip as fs.zip makes no difference. > > > > Tried on a 2GB stick, also reformatted. No luck. Firmware seems OK. > > > > Something I am missing about the 2GB version of the XO-1.5 ??? > > > > David Leeming > > > > From: George Hunt [mailto:georgejh...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 8:41 p.m. > To: David Farning > Cc: David Leeming; Jerry Vonau; server-devel > Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 > > > > There were kernel problems with 11.3.1 which kept us from getting the XO-1.5 > to become an XSCE. It was only with the 13.1.0 release, that we were able > to get the network adapters to work properly after a reboot. > > > > So I'm afraid that everyone will save a lot of time, and pain, in the long > run, if the install procedure is followed exactly. > (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing) > > > > We were not able to test adequately the offline install for subsequent XSCE > installations to have it be part of the 0.3 release. But for situations > where internet access is slow, and expensive, it is possible to use a USB > stick to transfer the rpm packages contained in the /var/yum/cache from the > first XSCE to the next one, and greatly speed up the install process. (And > if you leave a USB stick in the XSCE, during the first install, it is our > intention, and design, that the /var/yum/cache will be copied to that USB > stick during the install process on that first machine -- and then used > automatically on a subsequent install) > > > > George > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM, David Farning > wrote: > > Hmm, that is an interesting point that we kind of took for granted. > > Our goal with the 'reference' hardware and software is to provide a > known set of stuff which 'just works.' While other hardware, software, > and features might work... they have not been tested. > > Maybe george or jerry have a good answer for you. > > At the risk of carbon dating myself... I grew up in the era where my > nerdy friends and I drooled over the pages of 'Computer Shopper' for a > 9.6 kbit/s modem. Auto Resume for stalled downloads was a life saver:) > > Now, for simplicity, our testing involves reflashing everything to get > back to a known state. As you point out, that is probably not the best > assumption for low bandwidth areas. > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David Leeming > wrote: >> Sorry just realised the XO is only installed with 11.3.1 (os855) >> >> >> >> However, is it still possible to work around? It’s not easy or cheap to >> download the os file. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> From: David Leeming [mailto:da...@leeming-consulting.com] >> Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 12:28 p.m. >> To: 'server-devel' >> Subject: Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 >> >> >> >> Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 >> >> >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing >> >> >> >> I get as far as step 13, after the SD card (I am testing with an 8GB card) >> successfully configures. >> >> >> >> When I enter “bootstrap-xo” is replies >> >> >> >> Not an XO please run ‘xs-config’ >> >> >> >> Tried to do that but >> >> >> >> xs-config: command not found >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Leeming >> >> Solomon Islands >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Server-devel mailing list >> Server-devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel >> > > > > -- > David Farning > Activity Centra
Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Tried again with the devkey link in Browse, it is OK now. Just an unidentified glitch. Is there any way to speed up getting the key? David > OK, didn't know you can do that. That's pretty convenient. First I have to > get a dev key to unlock it, will take another 24 hrs. BTW I had to do it from > file:///home/.devkey.html because the link in Browse led to a secure > connection failure due to invalid certificate. David -Original Message- From: David Farning [mailto:dfarn...@activitycentral.com] Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 9:24 p.m. To: David Leeming Cc: George Hunt; Jerry Vonau; server-devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 Yikes, you are having some bad luck with this install. Thanks for your patience. I looks like the 1.5 "lite" does not have enough space for the 13.1.0 image. You will need almost an 8gb hard disk in order to proceed with the installation. If the internal hard disk is less than that, you can use a sdcard to install the system, check the following instructions:http://activitycentral.com/community/news/installing-os-sd-card . We are adding this note to the install page. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:57 AM, David Leeming wrote: > Still trying to set up my XO-1.5 2GB ready for XSCE, which as per advice > requires the 13.1.0 release as starting point. > > > > I downloaded the 13.1.0 files as per > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5 > > > > 31036o1.zd > > 31036o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip > > > > Copied to a newly formatted 1GB USB stick, and checked the zd file md5sum > matched > > Renamed the zip to fs1.zip > > > > Tried it: > > > > Fails as per attached. Renaming the fs1.zip as fs.zip makes no difference. > > > > Tried on a 2GB stick, also reformatted. No luck. Firmware seems OK. > > > > Something I am missing about the 2GB version of the XO-1.5 ??? > > > > David Leeming > > > > From: George Hunt [mailto:georgejh...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 8:41 p.m. > To: David Farning > Cc: David Leeming; Jerry Vonau; server-devel > Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 > > > > There were kernel problems with 11.3.1 which kept us from getting the XO-1.5 > to become an XSCE. It was only with the 13.1.0 release, that we were able > to get the network adapters to work properly after a reboot. > > > > So I'm afraid that everyone will save a lot of time, and pain, in the long > run, if the install procedure is followed exactly. > (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing) > > > > We were not able to test adequately the offline install for subsequent XSCE > installations to have it be part of the 0.3 release. But for situations > where internet access is slow, and expensive, it is possible to use a USB > stick to transfer the rpm packages contained in the /var/yum/cache from the > first XSCE to the next one, and greatly speed up the install process. (And > if you leave a USB stick in the XSCE, during the first install, it is our > intention, and design, that the /var/yum/cache will be copied to that USB > stick during the install process on that first machine -- and then used > automatically on a subsequent install) > > > > George > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM, David Farning > wrote: > > Hmm, that is an interesting point that we kind of took for granted. > > Our goal with the 'reference' hardware and software is to provide a > known set of stuff which 'just works.' While other hardware, software, > and features might work... they have not been tested. > > Maybe george or jerry have a good answer for you. > > At the risk of carbon dating myself... I grew up in the era where my > nerdy friends and I drooled over the pages of 'Computer Shopper' for a > 9.6 kbit/s modem. Auto Resume for stalled downloads was a life saver:) > > Now, for simplicity, our testing involves reflashing everything to get > back to a known state. As you point out, that is probably not the best > assumption for low bandwidth areas. > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David Leeming > wrote: >> Sorry just realised the XO is only installed with 11.3.1 (os855) >> >> >> >> However, is it still possible to work around? It’s not easy or cheap to >> download the os file. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> From: David Leeming [mailto:da...@leeming-consulting.com] >> Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 12:28 p.m. >> To: 'server-devel' >> Subject: Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 >> >> >> >> Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 >> >> >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing >> >> >> >> I get as far as step 13, after the SD card (I am testing with an 8GB card) >> successfully configures. >> >> >> >> When I enter “bootstrap-xo” is replies >> >> >> >> Not an XO please run ‘xs-config’ >> >> >> >> Tried to do that but >> >> >> >> xs-config: command not found >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Leeming >> >> Solomon Islands >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ser
Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Yikes, you are having some bad luck with this install. Thanks for your patience. I looks like the 1.5 "lite" does not have enough space for the 13.1.0 image. You will need almost an 8gb hard disk in order to proceed with the installation. If the internal hard disk is less than that, you can use a sdcard to install the system, check the following instructions:http://activitycentral.com/community/news/installing-os-sd-card . We are adding this note to the install page. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:57 AM, David Leeming wrote: > Still trying to set up my XO-1.5 2GB ready for XSCE, which as per advice > requires the 13.1.0 release as starting point. > > > > I downloaded the 13.1.0 files as per > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5 > > > > 31036o1.zd > > 31036o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip > > > > Copied to a newly formatted 1GB USB stick, and checked the zd file md5sum > matched > > Renamed the zip to fs1.zip > > > > Tried it: > > > > Fails as per attached. Renaming the fs1.zip as fs.zip makes no difference. > > > > Tried on a 2GB stick, also reformatted. No luck. Firmware seems OK. > > > > Something I am missing about the 2GB version of the XO-1.5 ??? > > > > David Leeming > > > > From: George Hunt [mailto:georgejh...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 8:41 p.m. > To: David Farning > Cc: David Leeming; Jerry Vonau; server-devel > Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 > > > > There were kernel problems with 11.3.1 which kept us from getting the XO-1.5 > to become an XSCE. It was only with the 13.1.0 release, that we were able > to get the network adapters to work properly after a reboot. > > > > So I'm afraid that everyone will save a lot of time, and pain, in the long > run, if the install procedure is followed exactly. > (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing) > > > > We were not able to test adequately the offline install for subsequent XSCE > installations to have it be part of the 0.3 release. But for situations > where internet access is slow, and expensive, it is possible to use a USB > stick to transfer the rpm packages contained in the /var/yum/cache from the > first XSCE to the next one, and greatly speed up the install process. (And > if you leave a USB stick in the XSCE, during the first install, it is our > intention, and design, that the /var/yum/cache will be copied to that USB > stick during the install process on that first machine -- and then used > automatically on a subsequent install) > > > > George > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM, David Farning > wrote: > > Hmm, that is an interesting point that we kind of took for granted. > > Our goal with the 'reference' hardware and software is to provide a > known set of stuff which 'just works.' While other hardware, software, > and features might work... they have not been tested. > > Maybe george or jerry have a good answer for you. > > At the risk of carbon dating myself... I grew up in the era where my > nerdy friends and I drooled over the pages of 'Computer Shopper' for a > 9.6 kbit/s modem. Auto Resume for stalled downloads was a life saver:) > > Now, for simplicity, our testing involves reflashing everything to get > back to a known state. As you point out, that is probably not the best > assumption for low bandwidth areas. > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David Leeming > wrote: >> Sorry just realised the XO is only installed with 11.3.1 (os855) >> >> >> >> However, is it still possible to work around? It’s not easy or cheap to >> download the os file. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> From: David Leeming [mailto:da...@leeming-consulting.com] >> Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 12:28 p.m. >> To: 'server-devel' >> Subject: Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 >> >> >> >> Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855 >> >> >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing >> >> >> >> I get as far as step 13, after the SD card (I am testing with an 8GB card) >> successfully configures. >> >> >> >> When I enter “bootstrap-xo” is replies >> >> >> >> Not an XO please run ‘xs-config’ >> >> >> >> Tried to do that but >> >> >> >> xs-config: command not found >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Leeming >> >> Solomon Islands >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Server-devel mailing list >> Server-devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel >> > > > > -- > David Farning > Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com > > -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
