Re: [Server-devel] mesh potato

2013-10-29 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Tony Anderson  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There was discussion of this at the SF sprint.
>
> As I understand it, openWRT (from the Shuttleworth project) can be installed
> on
> a TP-Link router.

As with many open source projects the lineage can be a bit confusing.
The Mesh Potato is a appliance developed and sold by
http://villagetelco.org/ . Villagetelco is a the Shuttleworth project.
the software side of the project is a thin and clever mesh layer +
confiuration GUI running on top of openWRT. In the past year terry ( I
forget his last name) has been repurposing it software to provide mesh
data service.

>It can be configured to serve connected XOs (such as in a
> classroom)
> on a mesh. It could also serve as a gateway to the school server's LAN.
>
> If this could work, then the schoolserver would not provide DHCP (since the
> mesh potato routers would
> have fixed addresses on the schoolserver LAN) and would not provide ejabberd
> (since that function is
> served by the classroom-level mesh).
>
> Presumably each classroom mesh would be a subnet of the LAN so that openWRT
> would act as a gateway
> for messages directed at the schoolserver.

I don't know the technical details. OLPC-AU has been piloting some
systems at the classroom level they might have more information. Terry
is clever enough to solve this level of issues in a couple of hours if
necessary.

> Is my understanding in the ballpark?
>
> Is there someone in the community who is working on this capability or is an
> appropriate reference for further
> information?

I spent a couple of weeks testing the system. The mesh aspect brings
many advantages in terms of set up because it requires no wiring.
Theoretically you could place a potato anywhere with in range of an
existing mesh and it would just work. The initial mesh is just a
matter or setting up the master potato.

My challenge was contention. Many inexpensive routers are single
frequency and many existing laptops use the 2.4 GHz range. That give
you 4 non-overlapping channels with with to work.

My conclusion was that while the villagetelco work is potentially very
valuable, tooling which makes it easier for unskilled or semiskilled
facilitators to figure what is wrong with a network and then fix it
were of greater priority. If you or anyone else want to look into that
would be most welcome.

Much of the value of enterprise routers, which can cost more then my
car, is on the software side.

Please see http://villagetelco.org/

> Tony
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Re: [Server-devel] mesh potato

2013-10-29 Thread tkkang
I was thinking that real testing of the XSCE, mesh-potatoe AP (if available), 
or openWRT TP-Link  could be done in the wild during the Basecamp@Malacca on 
Nov 16-18. Can get direct feedback of users with the 20+ XO and other devices 
from this direct/indirect stress test.

Cheers.. for BYOD
  


>-Original Message-
>From: Tony Anderson [mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 02:30 AM
>To: 'XS Devel'
>Subject: [Server-devel] mesh potato
>
>Hi,
>
>There was discussion of this at the SF sprint.
>
>As I understand it, openWRT (from the Shuttleworth project) can be 
>installed on
>a TP-Link router. It can be configured to serve connected XOs (such as 
>in a classroom)
>on a mesh. It could also serve as a gateway to the school server's LAN.
>
>If this could work, then the schoolserver would not provide DHCP (since 
>the mesh potato routers would
>have fixed addresses on the schoolserver LAN) and would not provide 
>ejabberd (since that function is
>served by the classroom-level mesh).
>
>Presumably each classroom mesh would be a subnet of the LAN so that 
>openWRT would act as a gateway
>for messages directed at the schoolserver.
>
>Is my understanding in the ballpark?
>
>Is there someone in the community who is working on this capability or 
>is an appropriate reference for further
>information?
>
>Tony
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[Server-devel] mesh potato

2013-10-29 Thread Tony Anderson

Hi,

There was discussion of this at the SF sprint.

As I understand it, openWRT (from the Shuttleworth project) can be 
installed on
a TP-Link router. It can be configured to serve connected XOs (such as 
in a classroom)

on a mesh. It could also serve as a gateway to the school server's LAN.

If this could work, then the schoolserver would not provide DHCP (since 
the mesh potato routers would
have fixed addresses on the schoolserver LAN) and would not provide 
ejabberd (since that function is

served by the classroom-level mesh).

Presumably each classroom mesh would be a subnet of the LAN so that 
openWRT would act as a gateway

for messages directed at the schoolserver.

Is my understanding in the ballpark?

Is there someone in the community who is working on this capability or 
is an appropriate reference for further

information?

Tony
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