[Server-devel] external batteries

2015-02-27 Thread Tim Moody
I didn’t find the batteries I saw before, but this looks pretty good.

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Portable-External-Battery-Charger/dp/B00LRK8JDC/ref=sr_1_22?s=wirelesssrs=10112675011ie=UTF8qid=1425048233sr=1-22
weighs 8 oz.  check my math, but at 10K mAh that should power a 3W 5V device 
for 16.67 hours in a perfect world. this one has two usb outs, so for devices 
with portable hdd there is a supply for the device and another for the hdd.
some of these take awhile to charge, so two smaller ones might be better, 
though more complicated.  not sure if you can charge and use at the same time, 
but input is separate from output.___
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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] external batteries

2015-02-27 Thread James Cameron
I've experimented with several of these class of device.

They are a 3.7V Lithium battery with a charging and discharging
circuit attached.

Like the high current power adapters, the outputs are not always 5V;
sometimes they are somewhat higher, so that at high current charging
the voltage at the other end of the cable remains good for the
smartphone or tablet.  I wouldn't let them near any USB HDD until I'd
checked the voltage and ripple; to avoid harm to the input regulators
on the USB HDD.

Some of them cannot be charged at the same time they are being
discharged, so they are useless as a DC UPS.

Some of them continuously run the discharging circuit, so they lose
capacity rapidly after being charged.  This is because they don't
detect the USB plug, or don't have a power switch.

Their end to end efficiency isn't great.

Because they are being sold by capacity, more of the battery capacity
is used.  The cycle life seems to be around 1000 full charges, about
half what would be expected from a product that optimises for
lifetime.

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James Cameron
http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] external batteries

2015-02-27 Thread Tim Moody
excellent, better than the one I found


From: George Hunt 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:56 AM
To: Tim Moody 
Subject: lithium battery

I'm excited about our discussion yesterday. Based on your research, what do you 
think of: 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F4U49M6/


From the comments, I suspect that there is really a 3.7v battery inside, so 
that there is enough headroom to actually charge the thing.  Then they must do 
a dc-dc conversion back up to 5v output

I think our application will be gentle on the electronics, compared to mainline 
usage.

I like the idea of lcd capacity indication.  The comments suggest that output 
reading is not reliable, but hopefully it will be repeatable.___
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