Re: [Server-devel] Moving toward headless install on trimslice
On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 17:01 -0500, Tim Moody wrote: How does the os get onto the trimslice? zcat it onto a SDcard, How do you sudo if the only known user is not a sudoer? use su, and the default password setup in the image. Jerry Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 12:12:33 -0500 From: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com To: XS Devel server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Server-devel] Moving toward headless install on trimslice for XSCE Message-ID: cadfccpv5g3dyxd5mh5qkyxr8hmlzca_dde+yzou73b0njm-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm wanting to do the following: - Get rid of the autologon to root at console tty. - Add a non privileged user (not a sudoer, not wheel), as we had pre-ansible, (user:admin,pw:12admin), so that the sshd config of permitrootlogon no can remain in place. - enable password authentication - Configure avahi to announce, so that in a trimslice situation, we can easily determine the remote sshd target ip. What do people think? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] aliases for hacking on our XSCE school server
On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 13:20 -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: I know that XSCE currently does some customizations, but personally I would prefer to see the normal installation process not modify shell aliases or prompts unless explicitly told to. I agree. These are more of a user preference than anything necessary for XSCE to function. +1 XSCE eventually should not act or install as if it is the sole role for a computer even if that is the most common use case. Jerry --- SJG On Oct 27, 2013 10:59 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: I recently pushed an xs profile to github that will start fine tuning the working environment on the XSCE Now I'm thinking that I should add and collect some functions and aliases which make working with ansible playbooks and github, easier, and require fewer keystrokes. So far I've thought of: runal = runansible $1 -- runansible-playbook with verbose diagnostic ouput to $1 logfile. gc $1 $2= git clone github.com/$1/xsce.git --depth=10 $2 -- for quickly getting our own testing branch down to a unit under test pullum = git checkout master;git pull upstream master ( might need to test whether the first command succeeds before executing the second) pushob = git push origin $1(branch) The following aliases are currently available - though not collected into one place in the profile sr = systemctl restart $1 st = systemctl status $1 vlm = less /var/log/messages du1 = du --max-depth=1 . psg = ps -e|grep $1 I'm willing to collect everyone's ideas, test them, and update the system profile. Send me your suggestions. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 18:20 -0400, Tim Moody wrote: +1 for the move. I guess you need to be careful with the timing so you don’t end up with the repo offline during the sprint, but if you feel confident in that then go for it. +1 motion carried, lets proceed. Now the question is working with merge requests, how are we going to handle that? Jerry ___ Change of Address timmo...@sympatico.ca is now t...@timmoody.com Please change your bookmarks. Thanks. ___ From: Anish Mangal Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:11 PM To: Martin Dluhos ; xsce-devel Cc: server-devel Subject: [XSCE] Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications *If* there is consensus on moving to github, should be think about making the switch before the hacksprint in SF? It might save us some time as then we would have set-up the buildbot, etc. On the other hand, if there isn't consensus, maybe the hacksprint would be a good opportunity to try github out. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Martin Dluhos mar...@gnu.org wrote: On 10/09/2013 11:13 AM, Anish Mangal wrote: I think that it would be more appropriate to send notifications of merged pull requests rather than individual commits to avoid too much noise on the channel. Those who are interested can always follow the pull request link to access individual commits. I would prefer notifications for pull requests *both* when they are created and when they are merged. The creation of the pull request will sort of open a review and test window for people willing to do that, so notifying that event is necessary IMO. Very good point. I agree. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: XS-CE Setup Issue
On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 12:45 -0700, Anish Mangal wrote: Hi, I got this email for an error log of a xsce-0.4, 64 bit installation. Any ideas? (I've asked the person concerned to join server-devel, so he can ask questions directly in the future). Best, Anish -- Forwarded message -- From: John Lillis johnmichael...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM Subject: XS-CE Setup Issue To: Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com Hey Anish, I am trying to setup a small testing server for XS-CE 0.4, but I'm getting an error after running xs-setup. I am using Fedora 18 XFCE 64-bit within a VM. The error can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/0H2BNAk7. Thanks in advance, ./startup.sh: line 233: [: sysadmin:x:1000:1000:System: unary operator expected chown: invalid user: ‘admin:admin’ line 233: # make a non privileged user, and give her remote access if [ ! `grep $DEFAULTUSER /etc/passwd` ]; then adduser $DEFAULTUSER echo $DEFAULTPASSWORD | passwd $DEFAULTUSER --stdin The code needs to be re-done to prevent a string being returned when the test is expecting a number to be returned. This doesn't address the fact that you can have a 'sysadmin' user and a 'admin' user at the same time. Maybe a better test would be to see if the 'admin' user has a home directory created already before creating the 'admin' user account. Jerry -- - John ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] Problems with the School Server and IIAB
On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 06:49 -0700, Braddock wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
School Server Experts,
We are trying to deploy an Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) network appliance
to an OLPC and XS school in Pakistan. (http://internet-in-a-box.org)
I need help getting them instructions so they can access the device
using their School Server XS 0.7
The IIAB appliance gets an DHCP lease on startup from their XS 0.7 server.
The IIAB appliance registers its name with the DHCP server as know.
In THEORY, on the XS, dhcpd should register the name know with the
named DNS server (ddns-update-style is set in /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf on my
own XS installation). Then students can access the IIAB appliance at
http://know
- From their reports, this appears to work initially, but after some
time (DHCP lease expires?) it stops working.
I'm looking for a simple solution to communicate to them to assign the
IIAB appliance a fixed IP address. It is currently not (safely)
possible to configure the IIAB appliance for a static IP. Then they
can just refer to it by IP.
I assume it should look something like:
host know {
hardware ethernet 00:03:6D:00:83:CF;
fixed-address 172.18.97.10;
}
added to /etc/dhcpd.conf
Add that to the template file /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf.in
xs-domain-config this replaces the domain name marker in the template
while copying the file to /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf
reload/restart dhcpd
Jerry
But with my very limited School Server experience I don't want to lead
them astray.
Any help appreciated.
- -braddock
On 08/31/2013 04:03 AM, Kishwer.Aziz wrote:
Tony,
Since my return from Pakistan in early August, the local support
team has been struggling with getting the school server and IIAB to
work on the network they have created using 8 routers (one for
every class of 20 students)
I have asked them to explain to me what the problem is and not
being technical I cannot understand what they are telling me. Given
below is their technical explanation for what is happening.
Verbally I have been told that sometimes some children can connect
while others cannot. When they turn the whole system on and off,
look for the IP allocated to the IIAB by the Server, give it to the
children they can connect to it but next day this changes.
Can you find us a solution for us? Tell us what we are doing
wrong?
Regards
Kishwer
*From:*Younus Zafar [mailto:younusza...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday,
August 30, 2013 11:45 AM *To:* Kishwer.Aziz *Subject:*
salam madam
(1)School server is assigning IP of two pools for clients( i-e
172.18.96.X 172.18.97.X
(2) it creates problem for Xo's to connect with IIAB server they
cannot use DNS resolver for domain name “know”
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Re: [Server-devel] rc.local stall on reboot
Hi George, On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 21:32 -0400, George Hunt wrote: I'm in Haiti, with limited internet access. Adam reports that the reboot at Silar's orphanage is stalling, and when he hits escape, we sees a red star traveling left and right, and an error message, which talks about a stop script. I am using rc.local to start up wvdial , which in turn stimulates the 3g ZTE USB modem, and opens up a vpn connection. Hey George, disable that script, lets check /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections for any weird looking connections next go to run level 5 (telinit 5), open My Computer and go to the Modem Configuration and configure the connection there. Once the connection is active I'd would look at how it was configured by Sugar. Open terminal and type nm-connection-editor, you might have 2 modem connections pick the one with the long UUID appended to the named and on click edit and ensure both connect automatically and available to all users are ticked. Reboot Once rebooted check if the connection is now active with ifconfig and route -n, if they are not present we need to do some further debugging. If you have a default gateway present run xs-setup-network to detect the gateway, this should setup the iptables' rules needed and with a little luck when you reboot every just works. Jerry What is the protocol so that it does not try to run the script also for shutdown? Any suggestions. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 07:40 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, My point about the UPS is that an off-grid setup doesn't need one which somewhat offsets the additional cost of supporting a hard drive. Yea the cost savings can go towards a proper 12v deep cycle battery. Currently the two schools in Lesotho are using MSI Nettop as school servers. In the context of charging 30-100 XOs, the additional power consumed by the school server is negligible. However, at the second school which charges the laptops using individual solar panels, the school server takes a dedicated solar panel charging a pair of car batteries. The big surprise was that the MSI does not boot on 12vdc. This required adding an inverter (designed to charge laptops from a car battery). Good to know, thanks. I was hoping the Trim-Slice H would be suitable. I am concerned with its fixed 1GB memory. The Utilite looked like a promising alternative, but supports only SSD. We may have to wait for nettops based on the new Atom technology for a one-box solution. In the meantime, the current Atom based systems are doable in an off-grid deployment. By the way, the need for the school server is closer to 50 hours per week than 24/7. Normally it needs to be booted only during the hours when children are in school. Valid point, that should be taken into account when calculating total power requirements. Jerry Tony On 08/17/2013 06:21 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 05:49 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, What is the disk capacity required by internet-in-a-box? 600-700 gigs The purpose of the server is to deliver the information not available from the internet. Yup, or when your offline. The cost of a UPS which is required for a system on the grid is $80-100. Think the issue is mainly about off-grid systems, those are usually 12v. What would be neat is if there was a power supply that you could replace in your standard PC that used 12v as the supply voltage. Anybody know of a manufacture that supplies one? I'd hate to see what the size of the battery pack and the recharging requirements needed of the solar/wind/insert others recharging system that would be needed to run such a beast. In my experience, there is need for one school server at a school supporting 30-200 XOs. Know of any low power devices that you might recommend for off-grid use? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 05:49 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, What is the disk capacity required by internet-in-a-box? 600-700 gigs The purpose of the server is to deliver the information not available from the internet. Yup, or when your offline. The cost of a UPS which is required for a system on the grid is $80-100. Think the issue is mainly about off-grid systems, those are usually 12v. What would be neat is if there was a power supply that you could replace in your standard PC that used 12v as the supply voltage. Anybody know of a manufacture that supplies one? I'd hate to see what the size of the battery pack and the recharging requirements needed of the solar/wind/insert others recharging system that would be needed to run such a beast. In my experience, there is need for one school server at a school supporting 30-200 XOs. Know of any low power devices that you might recommend for off-grid use? Jerry Tony On 08/17/2013 03:02 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: The average difference between power consumption of an SSD and a HDD is about 4W. [1][2] Now considering the environments we're gonna head into we're looking at typically 1-3 days of power backup for the server (lets average out at 2). That means, the battery backup needed is: 4 * 24 * 2 = 192 W-hr *That comes out to roughly $25-35 in battery costs* (again based on quick google searches for battery costs). *If you want a longer life from you're battery, you're looking at about $50-60 in battery costs.* Now if we're also giving solar backup, based on the calculator here [3] we're going to need about a 25-30W solar panel (for just those 4 extra watts). Again, google tells me that *such panels retail for about $65-80.* * * *So, on average we'll save $100-$130 on TCO (total cost of ownership), if we intend to provide an SSD as opposed to an HDD, considering the server runs 24x7 and 2 days of backup is needed.* * * On top of that, you're looking at less failures, a better operating temperature range, and more durability. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 15:33 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:19:30AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:13:25PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? What you see is from the template page Latest Releases and occurs on every Wiki page that includes that template. So the fact that it is on XS_Installing_Software_0.7 is not unusual, because that page includes the template. The template edits that led to this are here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287052oldid=266082 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287053oldid=287052 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287329oldid=287053 Thanks for the links. Makes it clearer. Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very *different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! I don't see any indication on the template to suggest that XSCE will become XS, but I do see Server software now includes xs-0.7 as stable, and XSCE 0.3 as unstable. I don't see any unstable version of xs-, and I don't see any stable version of XSCE. I'd like to see both. The former would indicate ongoing development of xs- and the latter would indicate finalisation of XSCE. Correct, but as it is represented now, XS will become XSCE, which is incorrect. As a customer, I consider XS and XSCE to be two different products. The XS is a product from OLPC. XSCE is a product (not production ready, but still a product) from the community (double quotes intended). Although the XSCE may very well be a fork of the XS, it has its own specs and a set of developers working on it. I am one of the few who use XSCE on a 1.75 in one of my projects. I also use XS 0.7 in three other projects. My reasonings for choosing one over the other are distinct. So, I do not appreciate the confusion. Mixing the two is misleading. XS 0.7 may very well be end of the line, or there may be a 0.8, but that's up to OLPC to decide, and not for XSCE to usurp. After all, AU has a server. As the developer of that AU version, lots of my code and ideas when on to become what is XS-0.7 thanks to dsd. Still think imitation is the highest form of flattery. Indeed. So does Nepal. So does Uruguay. So does Activity Central. We don't see those listed on the template now, do we? If this was out of a misunderstanding, it needs to be corrected. If this injection was deliberate, then it was foolish at best. It's a shame how much obfuscation has creeped into this space. Let's be clear about what the XS is and what the XSCE is and move on. Yes, lets be clear here, is OLPC going to maintain 0.7 going forward? I asking if OLPC is going to maintain their forked ejabberd rpm and not rely on exclude=ejabberd in the yum repo files? There are no plans at the moment for OLPC to develop and release xs-0.8, but this may change if a deployment comes to us with a need. That doesn't answer the question is OLPC going to maintain their already forked rpm going forward? It's blocking a EPEL update[1], not that it's a security update but should one come down the pipe, as a system administrator I'd like re-assurance that I can run the latest fixed code. Hate to think that no new updates are available until some other deployment needs something. This is also blocking XS on CentOS-6.4[2] as the wrong version of ejabberd gets installed. That there is a deployment contributing to XSCE is certainly good to keep in mind and recognise. There may be more versions of XSCE released than XS, but that's not a technical problem. No a problem at all, shows the XSCE crew are actively working towards their goals and listening to future potential users and reacting. Jerry This there going to be a 0.8? When? and by who? We don't need to duplicate efforts here. Jerry 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=846856 2. http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/XS_Install-1.txt ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 25
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 08:23 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: On 08/06/2013 05:40 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: I'd be interested in the contents of the xs-moodle files or is that an example? Sounds like 20-xc-generic looks for xc-* directories and files in those directories to execute, need to see the code to be sure on what you require. The install file for Moodle is cd $UM_MOUNTPOINT/XC if [ -f xc-moodle/xc-moodle-install ]; then log notice Installing moodle cd xc-moodle if bash xc-moodle-install; then log notice moodle installed successfully else log notice moodle install failed with code $? error_beep fi else log notice 'moodle not found' error_beep fi The xc-moodle-install file is: #!/bin/bash #take backup from existing moodle #su - postgres #pg_dump moodle-xs moodle-xs.sql #stop httpd /etc/init.d/httpd stop #copy the moodle folder to /library rm -rf /library/moodle cp -r moodle /library/moodle chown -R apache:apache /library/moodle #restore the moodle-xs.sql backup of the database psql -d moodle-xs -f moodle-xs.sql #replace config.php file in /var/www/moodle/web and update /etc/httpd/conf.d/moodle.conf (if necessary) cp config.php /var/www/moodle/web cp moodle.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d #start httpd /etc/init.d/httpd start Naturally, Moodle itself is installed as part of XS-0.7. This installs a PostgreSQL backup of Moodle content (courses). It also moved the Moodle data to /library. This was a mistake in the XS implementation. Data directories which can grow with use should be in /library not in the root partition. This is the change in config.php. yup, good catch. Got a copy of that also? The essence of this technique is that 20-xc-generic needs to be installed by xo-custom, xs-setup, or in the build. Once that is installed, a deployment can perform any additional installations of content or packages via xc-install. It would probably be useful to have a library of these optional installations. Yes it would then I could stop asking for source code for an open source project. Currently, I am using this technique to install the courseware for the Learn activity, Django, the library, wiki4schools, mediawiki, wiktionary, the beginnings of a learning management system, and the beginnings of an itembank of questions. I hope to have an install script for IIAB (probably one for the front end and one or more for the content). XSCE is working towards the same goals. Tony Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:17:23AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 15:33 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:19:30AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:13:25PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? What you see is from the template page Latest Releases and occurs on every Wiki page that includes that template. So the fact that it is on XS_Installing_Software_0.7 is not unusual, because that page includes the template. The template edits that led to this are here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287052oldid=266082 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287053oldid=287052 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287329oldid=287053 Thanks for the links. Makes it clearer. Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very *different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! I don't see any indication on the template to suggest that XSCE will become XS, but I do see Server software now includes xs-0.7 as stable, and XSCE 0.3 as unstable. I don't see any unstable version of xs-, and I don't see any stable version of XSCE. I'd like to see both. The former would indicate ongoing development of xs- and the latter would indicate finalisation of XSCE. Correct, but as it is represented now, XS will become XSCE, which is incorrect. As a customer, I consider XS and XSCE to be two different products. The XS is a product from OLPC. XSCE is a product (not production ready, but still a product) from the community (double quotes intended). Although the XSCE may very well be a fork of the XS, it has its own specs and a set of developers working on it. I am one of the few who use XSCE on a 1.75 in one of my projects. I also use XS 0.7 in three other projects. My reasonings for choosing one over the other are distinct. So, I do not appreciate the confusion. Mixing the two is misleading. XS 0.7 may very well be end of the line, or there may be a 0.8, but that's up to OLPC to decide, and not for XSCE to usurp. After all, AU has a server. As the developer of that AU version, lots of my code and ideas when on to become what is XS-0.7 thanks to dsd. Still think imitation is the highest form of flattery. Indeed. So does Nepal. So does Uruguay. So does Activity Central. We don't see those listed on the template now, do we? If this was out of a misunderstanding, it needs to be corrected. If this injection was deliberate, then it was foolish at best. It's a shame how much obfuscation has creeped into this space. Let's be clear about what the XS is and what the XSCE is and move on. Yes, lets be clear here, is OLPC going to maintain 0.7 going forward? I asking if OLPC is going to maintain their forked ejabberd rpm and not rely on exclude=ejabberd in the yum repo files? There are no plans at the moment for OLPC to develop and release xs-0.8, but this may change if a deployment comes to us with a need. That doesn't answer the question is OLPC going to maintain their already forked rpm going forward? It's blocking a EPEL update[1], not that it's a security update but should one come down the pipe, as a system administrator I'd like re-assurance that I can run the latest fixed code. Hate to think that no new updates are available until some other deployment needs something. This is also blocking XS on CentOS-6.4[2] as the wrong version of ejabberd gets installed. I can't find any ticket on dev.laptop.org that mentions this, can you? Just discovered while reviewing the CentOS-6.4 install[2] after the groupinstall issue was fixed. You want to file this bug or shall I? Jerry That there is a deployment contributing to XSCE is certainly good to keep in mind and recognise. There may be more versions of XSCE released than XS, but that's not a technical problem. No a problem at all, shows the XSCE crew are actively working towards their goals and listening to future potential users and reacting. Jerry This there going to be a 0.8? When? and by who? We don't need to duplicate efforts here. Jerry
[Server-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions for today
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 15:33 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: On 08/06/2013 03:06 PM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very*different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! This question has many interesting implications! While I don't know the answer to your question I do have some more specific follow on questions. Questions about today: If I am a deployment, large or small, looking to deploy a school server, which should I choose? and Why? If a deployment has the power for an Atom-based server, then XS-0.7 is the choice today. According the 0.3 release notes, XSCE is only supported on an XO. Tony, that would be your choice to use XS-0.7, please don't put words in my mouth, I would use the soon to be released XSCE-0.4 on the same hardware. If I am a deployment, large or small, looking to make customizations to my school server, which 'base' should I choose? Should I upstream my customizations or should hold on to them? Customization has to used carefully. There is not a system administrator alive who has built a custom server configuration. None of that has any impact on server software development. I have, XS on F11/F14 and I disagree, it sure does as the underlying OS evolves, your customisations have to keep up, rpms may need to be re-compiled and the general adapting to the changes in the OS. For example, adding CUPS to support an attached printer is something that a deployment can do if desired. or adding Django, content, or anything else someone wanted to pay for. If I a contributor looking to help ICT4E move forward, which school server should I work on and why? I am not sure what ICT4E means (ICT seems to be used in education to mean studying computers as a subject, not using computers to learn). There are a number of important items still on the wish list. Adding the IIAB content is probably at the top of the list. Providing a way for a deployment to be 'librarian', e.g. with Calibre is another. Finding a way for teachers to make assignments, receive student submissions, mark them, and return annotated copies (digital copybook) is high on the list. Providing an email capability with client software on the XO and an XS facility (e.g. pop3 and smtp) which is capable of interface to Internet via removable device. Implementing Wikipedia in a child-safe form with fast full-text search. Providing an effective 'badge' mechanism to honor children who have demonstrated learning. There is no lack of things to do. That is kind of blurring the line between features and system administration functions. Questions about the future: Is the XS feature complete? Does it do everything it can to add value to deployments? If there are ways to add more value, is there a plan or funding model to support that development? XS-0.7 is a baseline install. The question should be what can deployments usefully install on XS-0.7. If we view every change as requiring a new build, deployments are looking at huge expense. In Nepal, Abhishek and I had to download over 10GB of repositories to build XO-0.7 offline. I think re-spinning the install iso is not that hard but you may need more than one CD or switch to the DVD format to fit all the needed rpms. That would take a decade at most of the schools I service (average download speed is 5kb/sec - with tens of restarts per gigabyte -not to mention loss of sleep restarting). I agree a fully offline install method is needed. Is the XSCE feature complete? Does it do everything it can to add value to deployments? If there are ways to add more value, is there a plan or funding model to support that development? Questions for OLCP: Are there steps OLPC can do to encourage deployments to fund further development of XS by OLPC developers? Are there steps OLPC can do to encourage direct development of XS by deployments? As mentioned, there are server developments at many deployments. What would be great is a co-operative team that would work to provide capabilities in a way that can be distributed widely. I am sure that Peru is working on a method to deliver email via usb drive (and internet cafes). I just don't have any visibility in the method taken, the technology employed, or whether the development can be applicable outside of Peru. You better have your ducks in a row when it comes to internet email, you can become subject to rbls and other such anti-spam measures by the isp or hosting service of the people you might what to email. The email subject needs to be
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
Think it's more of a question of looking for confirmation. Is anybody else seeing this behavior on 13.2.0-13 on XO-1s when used with any version of school-servers? I'm at a loss trying to explain why this is occurring to Anna. With the noted behavior where would you file the bug report? OLPC is what I'm thinking but looking if someone else might be impacted also or can confirm this. Jerry On 6 August 2013 05:12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: There are a ticket filled? Gonzalo On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions for today
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:46 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: On 08/06/2013 04:22 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: I agree a fully offline install method is needed. I think we are in substantial agreement. My model is that the deployment has someone with technical skills available who prepares the server for installation. However, at the deployment, the server should be stable enough to operate through a school year without hands-on system administration (except when the server hardware fails). Full agreement with that, except for perhaps performance tuning that might crop up with user demands. The community can provide the, probably volunteer, system administrator with a base system and a pantry of appropriate ingredients to tailor for a specific deployment without requiring the admin to give up his day job. It is perfectly feasible to install the school server from a usb drive. Yes, I'm one of original driving forces behind that. It is the build that currently requires internet access. Yup I agree, that is where the repos live unless you have created a local mirror for pungi to use offline. The pungi tool has been updated/replaced by lorax in the newer Fedora versions. The install at the moment requires a monitor, usb wired keyboard, and a usb wired mouse. Think a vnc based anaconda(the installer) install might be do-able also, to access the target machine not to retrieve rpms. These are not required after the install. By the way, the repositories need for an XS-0.7 build don't come close to fitting on a DVD. Just need access to the internet or local mirror to let pungi do its magic gathering the needed rpms and creating the anaconda installer. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 18:19 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:06 AM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: snip It's not that complicated. My original assertion was to be clear about the roadmap for XS and XSCE. It is now clear that the XSCE project is not going to be the next XS. Both projects are very different, and convergence may not be in the best interests of all parties involved. So be it. Move along. Nothing to see here. So when does the work on XS-0.8 begin? Might look un-maintained to lots of potential deployments. From my perspective, XS is designed by OLPC to service their projects, which tend to be larger than microdeployments. XSCE, on the other hand seems to be driven by smaller LAN size, such as the classroom scenario promoted by AU, or my India project. We use XS 0.7 in Jamaica because it was the only game in town back then, it runs atop CentOS, and it uses Moodle, which we are not averse to. It is also tried and tested in many other deployments much larger than ours, so that's comforting. No, not really, that was your choice. I also use XSCE in India, but for entirely different reasons. I needed something that was extremely low power. XS 0.6 that ran on a FitPC was ok, but it pulled 8W. I couldn't move up to XS 0.7, because of a PAE issue, and didn't have the resources to wrangle with it. The XO 1.75 as XS running XSCE fits the bill for very low power, although running atop Fedora does not give me clear upgrade paths. We'll see how quickly that install gets old. In fact, XS 0.6 was on F9, and suffered the same fate. Personally, I would prefer the stability of CentOS over the newness of Fedora. Can XS 0.7 serve the features of XSCE? Already done, moodle et all. With a bit of work, sure. Can XSCE serve the stability of XS 0.7? I recall Chris, Adam, and yourself having loads of issues in Jamaica with the XS-0.7 or was that just an end user mis-configuration? By the way who got that resolved for you? With a little bit of work, sure. The difference in design is based on a difference in the needs of various projects. I suspect it is also fueled by a not invented here sentiment. yup, been on the receiving end of that since 2008. While the XS continues to live in the colored box on the wiki as an official offering from OLPC, as I expect it to be, along with the OLPC images for the XOs (and I hope we hear about the roadmap from the powers-that-be), I think XSCE needs to grow up and live in its own space on the wiki as a proper page, and not live in Adam Holt's user page. Cool, so the XSCE can have space on the wiki? It is a community project and it should be treated as such. Let the deployment pick and choose what they'd like. If living under the same wiki becomes too contentious, space is cheap! Move some place else, and while you are at it, please keep the mailing lists open. Well us mere mortals don't get to see the private OLPC mailing lists, those are private dealings behind closed doors right? I shouldn't have to write a paragraph to Adam and ask permission to be added to the mailing list. Our IRC channel is open, come hangout there are others from OLPC hanging around, join the party. That stifles communication, and if you all haven't caught on as yet, we are *not* dealing with a technology problem! This business of building a dozen different server projects is a people problem. Brought on by a lack of leadership IMHO. I look forward to more communication on this and other lists and I sincerely hope we can continue to work together as one community. Oh, and I hope to see you all in October. http://www.olpcsf.org/node/133 Even if my passport is not ready I will present, count on that. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 25
Thank you Tony, I'll see if I can intergrade this into the XSCE as a
optional module. More below.
On Fri, 2013-08-02 at 12:02 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote:
On 08/01/2013 06:33 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Tony Andersont...@olenepal.org wrote:
Hi,
As I have unsuccessfully tried to explain many times. OLE Nepal, with help
from Daniel Drake, an effective and proven means to add selected
capabilities
to the base server. Since this capability takes advantage of the running
base
server, all of its normal system administration capabilities are available
(ssh,
yum, etc.).
This is true, but not documented well and not known. For instance, we
use munin and openvpn on the XS 0.7 in Jamaica, and those are
add-ons. It would be good to document this and discuss approaches
for installing complementary services.
The process is straightforward.
At install time, the script xs-custom is executed.
#!/bin/bash
cp 20-xc-generic /etc/usbmount/mount.d
cp path.py /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages
python fixssh.py
adduser -padmin admin
xs-setup domain
poweroff
It installs a modified version of Daniel Drake's script 20-xc-generic
which will be executed when a removable drive is mounted.
It puts path.py (a utility I use in many python cgi-scripts).
It executes a script fixssh.py which enables password authentication.
Finally, it adds user admin with password admin.
The xs-setup script is executed to complete the process.
The poweroff is a clear signal when the script is finished and forces a
reboot.
The 20-xc-generic script is attached.
Think the attachment got scrubbed in digest mode. Can you reply to this
tread with the contents of 20-xc-generic script please?
It checks the removable device for
a root folder
XC. If this exists, it checks for a script in that folder 'xc-install'.
If so, it is executed. This allows a usb drive or hard drive to be used
for this install or for other purposes by renaming the XC folder (e.g.
xc) so that it is ignored.
The fixsh.py scripts enables password authentication:
#!/usr/bin/python
test = 'PasswordAuthentication'
fin=open('/etc/ssh/sshd_config.in','r')
txt = fin.read()
fin.close()
lines = txt.split('\n')
txtout = ''
fout = open('/etc/ssh/sshd_config.in','w')
for line in lines:
if test in line and not '#' in line:
print fout, test + ' yes'
else:
print fout, line
fout.close()
This is another reason for poweroff and reboot so that
/etc/ssh/sshd_config is also
updated.
Think a sshd restart might suffice.
This enables login from an XO or other PC via ssh admin@schoolserver for
system administration.
That is part of the stock XSCE build.
The below needs the 20-xc-generic file to be present on the XS correct?
The xc-install script in XC looks like this:
#!/bin/bash
# Author: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org
# XS auto-usbmount import script for code parts of the e-library
#modified for Rwanda configuration tony_ander...@usa.net
set -e
VERBOSE=No
# Log a string via the syslog facility.
log()
{
if test $1 != debug || expr $VERBOSE : [yY] /dev/null; then
logger -p user.$1 -t xc-code[$$] -- $2
echo $(date +%F %T) xc-code: $2
fi
}
error_beep()
{
echo -en '\033[10;1000]\033[11;100]\007' /dev/console
sleep 0.2
echo -en '\033[10;1000]\033[11;100]\007' /dev/console
sleep 0.2
echo -en '\033[10]\033[11]' /dev/console
return 0
}
UM_MOUNTPOINT=/media/usb0
cd $UM_MOUNTPOINT/XC
if [ -f xc-wiki/xc-wiki4schools-install ]; then
log notice Installing Wiki4Schools
cd xc-wiki
if bash xc-wiki4schools-install; then
log notice wiki4schools installed successfully
else
log notice wiki4schools install failed with code $?
error beep
fi
else
log notice 'xc-wiki not found'
It normally has several of these install sections. The install section
looks for a
folder: xc-wiki and in that folder for an install script:
xc-wiki4schools-install.
The contents of the folder are:
wiki.conf
xc-wiki4schools-install
xc-wiki4schools.tar.gz
xc-wiki4schools.tar.gz.sha1
The xc-wiki4schools-install is:
#!/bin/bash
wktar=xc-wiki4schools.tar.gz
log() {
logger -p user.notice -t nexc-wiktionary-inst -s -- $1
}
cp wiki.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d
rm -rf /library/wiki
mkdir -p /library/wiki
cp $wktar /library/wiki
cd /library/wiki
if ! tar -xzf $wktar; then
log could not extract $wktar
exit 1
fi
rm -rf /library/wiki/$wktar
chown -R apache:apache /library/wiki
chmod -R 755 /library/wiki
This script installs wiki.conf in /etc/httpd/conf.d, makes a folder
/library/wiki,
copies the tarball to this folder and extracts it there. The tarball is
removed and
permissions
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:13:25PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? What you see is from the template page Latest Releases and occurs on every Wiki page that includes that template. So the fact that it is on XS_Installing_Software_0.7 is not unusual, because that page includes the template. The template edits that led to this are here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287052oldid=266082 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287053oldid=287052 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287329oldid=287053 Thanks for the links. Makes it clearer. Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very *different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! I don't see any indication on the template to suggest that XSCE will become XS, but I do see Server software now includes xs-0.7 as stable, and XSCE 0.3 as unstable. I don't see any unstable version of xs-, and I don't see any stable version of XSCE. I'd like to see both. The former would indicate ongoing development of xs- and the latter would indicate finalisation of XSCE. Correct, but as it is represented now, XS will become XSCE, which is incorrect. As a customer, I consider XS and XSCE to be two different products. The XS is a product from OLPC. XSCE is a product (not production ready, but still a product) from the community (double quotes intended). Although the XSCE may very well be a fork of the XS, it has its own specs and a set of developers working on it. I am one of the few who use XSCE on a 1.75 in one of my projects. I also use XS 0.7 in three other projects. My reasonings for choosing one over the other are distinct. So, I do not appreciate the confusion. Mixing the two is misleading. XS 0.7 may very well be end of the line, or there may be a 0.8, but that's up to OLPC to decide, and not for XSCE to usurp. After all, AU has a server. As the developer of that AU version, lots of my code and ideas when on to become what is XS-0.7 thanks to dsd. Still think imitation is the highest form of flattery. So does Nepal. So does Uruguay. So does Activity Central. We don't see those listed on the template now, do we? If this was out of a misunderstanding, it needs to be corrected. If this injection was deliberate, then it was foolish at best. It's a shame how much obfuscation has creeped into this space. Let's be clear about what the XS is and what the XSCE is and move on. Yes, lets be clear here, is OLPC going to maintain 0.7 going forward? I asking if OLPC is going to maintain their forked ejabberd rpm and not rely on exclude=ejabberd in the yum repo files? This there going to be a 0.8? When? and by who? We don't need to duplicate efforts here. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] yum groupinstall
Hi All, While helping someone install XS-0.7 on a pre-existing install using the instructions Installing on top of existing OS installation[1]. After installing the release rpm the next step results in: root@localhost Test_XS]# yum groupinstall OLPC XS Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile epel/metalink| 14 kB 00:00 * base: centos.tcpdiag.net * epel: mirror.pnl.gov * extras: centos.tcpdiag.net * updates: centos.mirrors.hoobly.com epel | 4.2 kB 00:00 epel/primary_db | 4.5 MB 00:01 olpcxs | 1.9 kB 00:00 olpcxs/primary_db| 29 kB 00:00 Setting up Group Process Checking for new repos for mirrors epel/group_gz| 237 kB 00:00 Warning: Group OLPC XS does not exist. No packages in any requested group available to install or update What I think may of occurred is when a rpm was updated on June 5 in the repo, createrepo wasn't called with -g to use the group definition, so the group no longer exists. I believe this to be true as the date on repodata/comps.xml [2] was not updated like the rest of the files in /repodata Jerry 1. http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=XS_Installing_Software_0.7/ 2. http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386/repodata/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] yum groupinstall
On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 11:33 +1000, James Cameron wrote: In Daniel's happy absence, how would I fix this? quozl@crank:/var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386$ pwd /var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386 quozl@crank:/var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386$ ls -actl| head -9 total 86748 drwxr-xr-x 3 dsd dsd 4096 2013-06-05 11:42 . drwxr-xr-x 2 dsd dsd 4096 2013-06-05 11:42 repodata -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd28016 2013-06-05 11:41 xs-activity-server-0.3.6-1.el6.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd31672 2012-02-20 11:37 xs-activation-0.3.14.gd2a3727-1.el6.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd82029 2012-02-16 18:03 xs-config-0.7.0.46.g9b886c8-1.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd44000 2012-02-14 15:37 xs-tools-0.5.5.g49ddc07-1.el6.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd 10060900 2012-02-14 12:54 moodle-xs-1.9.5.xs1.15.g7c6a865-1.el6.noarch.rpm drwxr-xr-x 4 dsd dsd 4096 2012-02-10 12:19 .. quozl@crank:/var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386$ cd repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386/ createrepo -g comps.xml . Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Firmware install
On Sat, 2013-07-20 at 07:33 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, We had this experience in Lesotho where we were rarely working directly from the mains. However, if the firmware is not installed, the message will appear on each subsequent boot. I am not sure that the battery charge is an issue. The firmware installs when the laptop detects that it is running from an AC adapter. Tony I have a olpc.fth file that defeats the mains AC check provided the battery has 50% charge or more and installs the newer firmware when present on the usbkey. Only works on unlocked XOs, hit me up if your interested. Jerry On 07/20/2013 05:13 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: When reflashing to one of the newer builds; i.e., 12.1.0 or newer, be sure to use a fully charged battery and a plugged in power adapter when reflashing. The new builds will upgrade the firmware automatically if the battery is fully charged. If it is not, during the end of the reflash process it will say something like cannot get new firmware continuing to update with old firmware. If you are not watching the screen you might not see this. And, I always check the system date and reset it (from the root terminal per instructions on the Fix ClockWiki page) before reflashing. That has solved the stuck on the grey dots problem. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Hi James, On 17 June 2013 21:55, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 09:20:20PM -0400, George Hunt wrote: I ordered a 64GB SD, and have it in hand. It is formatted with exfat disk format, apparently a Microsoft proprietary standard. There is a driver for exfat, but it is not shipped with the XO, so there was some truth to the hearsay that 64GB SD cards do not work on the XO. BUT . . . I was able to read exfat formatted out of the box transcend 64GB drive on a XO1.5, with a downloaded driver, so I expect that electrical compatibility is already established. It is the protocol compatibility that causes us problems. There's this tiny computer inside the card which has to interoperate with our computer. And from what you describe above, you haven't yet tested the protocol compatibility with Open Firmware. You have to boot from it to test that. I think you will want it to be formatted with ext4, because the OS doesn't run on a FAT formated drive. I should caution that I have read that SD cards have an erase block size that makes it important to preserve the partition location and sizing, as the disk format is being erased and reformatted. If you use the drive for the operating system, there's no need to partition or format, because the fs-update of 13.1.0 .zd file will create all that is required. Just make sure you use the devalias fsdisk ext:0 trick to persuade fs-update to use the external slot. During boot, the operating system may expand the filesystem to cover the rest of the device. I just tried the devalias trick using 13.2.0 as the OS on a XO-4. On initial boot it drops me into dracut appearing to complain about a read-only filesystem while attempting resize. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Thanks James, On 18 June 2013 00:00, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14:23PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: I just tried the devalias trick using 13.2.0 as the OS on a XO-4. On initial boot it drops me into dracut appearing to complain about a read-only filesystem while attempting resize. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Sure. Check the write protect tab on the card. This was the issue, no matter how careful I was inserting the SD-card the tab would move to locked. I used a dab of instant glue, that was enough to prevent the tab from moving. Thanks a bunch, Jerry Check with another XO-4 in case the socket write protect switch is faulty. Boot into Linux from another boot device, such as the internal eMMC or a Tiny Core Linux on USB drive, then check that you can mount the external SD card for write, and write to it. fs-update does not honour the write protect on an SD card; it is purely an advisory write protect, and Open Firmware doesn't take this advice ... which is an optional feature of the SD specification. [1] (I'm running an XO-4 as a builder with swap on external SD, and it seems to work fine for that.) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Card_security Write-protect notch -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] HOWTO.xs-custom
Hi All: With the recent acceptance of my port of the python's customization routine over to TinyCore I'm attempting document the process and I need some help with that. Here is what I have so far. Build tinycore with --xo-custom, this will enable 4 optional routines When booting the usbkey you will enter a chroot on the target XO and the usbkey will be mounted at /media for all operations below. 1. You will be able to populate /bundles on the usbkey with activities, they will automatically install. 2. If you provide /scripts/asroot you can run commands contained in the file as the root user. 3. If you provide /scripts/asolpc you can run commands contained in the file as the root user. 4. If you provide /scripts/yum.conf, /scripts/yum.cmd, and a configured yum repo then yum gets executed with -y -c pointing to /scripts/yum.conf and /scripts/yum.cmd as the arguments. The yum.conf file would use file:///media/path/to/repo Examples: asroot: - #!/bin/bash cp /media/file /path/on/xo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Central /etc/localtime - asolpc: - #!/bin/bash cp /media/file ~/Documents/ sed -i -e '/replacethis/withthis/' /some/file cat EOF ~/.i18n LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB.utf8:en_US.utf8 EOF - yum.cmd: - install xs-config-xo - yum.conf: - [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum keepcache=1 debuglevel=2 exactarch=1 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=0 plugins=0 installonly_limit=3 # disables /etc/yum.repos.d reposdir=/tmp # keep the log file logfile=/home/olpc/.sugar/default/yum.log # This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not having correct # information. # It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour (yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d [media.repo] name=flash baseurl=file:///media/xs-repo/armhfp/18/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 gpgkey= - Happy Hacking Any thoughts on how to improve this are welcome. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE links to filesfrom Moodle
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 14:36 +1000, David Leeming wrote: Hi, With the XS 0.7 we add links to Moodle pages that map to locations in the storage folder /library using aliases and html.conf file I have gone through the exact process as we used to use with the XSCE and all good in the set up, but when I try to access those resources with a connected laptop or authenticated moodle account t it tells me that I don’t have permission to view the folder. A missing step I think... Sounds like you ran into the Access Control Require all granted upgrade issue: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html Jerry David Leeming Solomon Islands 24419 (h) www.rurallink.com.sb ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] ANNOUNCEMENT XSCE 0.3 Final Release
On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 21:16 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 05:26:37AM -0400, George Hunt wrote: It's my understanding that 32GB cards work, but that 64GB cards do not (hearsay, and not direct personal experience). Think you ran across this issue before: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036017.html I'm interested in working with anyone who has one, in order to diagnose and fix this. Let me know. Think this has been corrected: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12216 Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:03 -0500, David Farning wrote: Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of 120V to 12V power supplies to provide power for the server and the AP... my eyes start to tear up:( Is the inverter really needed for a XO? The step-down transformer used on the XO puts out 13.5v but the XOs only need 11 volts to charge[1]. Therefore I believe you could run and/or charge the XOs directly from a 12v source like a storage battery, perhaps though a regulator. I just don't want to cut the cord off of a working power supply to find out. The situation I am looking at has power part of the day so we can recharge the battery. To keep things simple we would like to use a Trimslice or XO-4 and off the shelf AP. Most of the networking devices use a transformer also but with perhaps a different voltage rating, with a regulator that takes 12 DC in we can output the voltage needed for the lower (12v) voltage DC devices. If they run on usb power or 12v dc this should be do-able. Ideally we would like to have 'kit' that contained everything except that battery that can be set up and tested before arriving at the deployment. Thanks Recharging the storage battery is limited by the means that are available to recharge the storage battery perhaps via solar or wind, and is the related to the issue of how many XOs are in use that need charging. Jerry 1. http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Battery_and_power -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:42 -0500, David Farning wrote: The piece I am looking at is reducing the losses between the battery and the server/AP. See my earlier response. Several systems have a 12V Battery which is inverted to 120AC which is then transformed back to low voltage DC for input to the server/AP. That doesn't seem very efficient. +1 Jerry Dave On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of 120V to 12V power supplies to provide power for the server and the AP... my eyes start to tear up:( The situation I am looking at has power part of the day so we can recharge the battery. To keep things simple we would like to use a Trimslice or XO-4 and off the shelf AP. Ideally we would like to have 'kit' that contained everything except that battery that can be set up and tested before arriving at the deployment. Thanks -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel What about an off-the-shelf SoHo UPS unit? cheers, Sameer -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 09:22 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: Hello: I ran into a few problems when trying to install the XSCE 0.2. I downloaded the repo and installed, during the installation process i got this messages, but apparently everything was installed correctly. http://pastebin.com/srwDn6wX That's part of the rpm, the %post scriptlet is calling xs-setup --upgrade-only and the xs-setup exits at that point. I'm running in a HP DV4 laptop with Fedora 17 (security spin, i'm downloading the std version), it's connected to the internet with the wi-fi, and during xs-setup, connection is lost for some time (20-30 secs aprox), it stops and starts Networkmanager apparently, but is long enough for the script to fail at downloading the required software, and installation fails. I think is during xs-setup-network That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. http://pastebin.com/7YTFHLL7 I'll be poking around to see if I can connect to internet with a cable, or pehaps give it a sleep to the script before downloading, if you could point me into wich file should i change. cheers I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: http://build.activitycentral.com/xsce.repo Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 10:24 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. It takes some time because the conection is wi-fi and it takes a long time to negotiate the conection, the is restored a couple seconds before the scripts exists. The ideal would be to check if connection is up and then continue, with a simple ping to the previously found gateway should work and timeout after 2 minutes or so. DHCP servers on most routers are fast enough for that window of time with cable connections, but wireless could take a while. 2 minutes is more than enough. I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: I have to enable testing and upgrade the xs-cofig package? or is there a specific package that needs to be downloaded? We haven't updated the stable repo yet, the latest testing rpm is at: http://build.activitycentral.com/xs-repo/RPMS/noarch/?C=M;O=D You can then install the latest by hand with rpm if you wish. You will still need to have the repo file present to be able to install other packages. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 11:05 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: I downloaded the RPM, installed using yum and didn' t ask for any dependencies. ran xs-setup and it failed, it did restarted the Network and waited for a bit, but later it just failed, didn' t try to download anything http://pastebin.com/vdgfuHtY Think we have an undeclared dependency on the rpm package 'hostname', which may not be installed, can you check for that rpm package with 'rpm -q hostname' please. Jerry 2013/3/22 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 10:24 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. It takes some time because the conection is wi-fi and it takes a long time to negotiate the conection, the is restored a couple seconds before the scripts exists. The ideal would be to check if connection is up and then continue, with a simple ping to the previously found gateway should work and timeout after 2 minutes or so. DHCP servers on most routers are fast enough for that window of time with cable connections, but wireless could take a while. 2 minutes is more than enough. I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: I have to enable testing and upgrade the xs-cofig package? or is there a specific package that needs to be downloaded? We haven't updated the stable repo yet, the latest testing rpm is at: http://build.activitycentral.com/xs-repo/RPMS/noarch/?C=M;O=D You can then install the latest by hand with rpm if you wish. You will still need to have the repo file present to be able to install other packages. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 11:47 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: It's installed hostname-3.10-1.fc17.i686 The only difference I can see is you are using sudo while I used su before running xs-setup but I don't think that is an issue but might be. Now that is strange, why would your installation not find the executable, wait it does but the value returned is bad. Is the file /etc/hostname present if so what is the contents? Jerry 2013/3/22 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 11:05 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: I downloaded the RPM, installed using yum and didn' t ask for any dependencies. ran xs-setup and it failed, it did restarted the Network and waited for a bit, but later it just failed, didn' t try to download anything http://pastebin.com/vdgfuHtY Think we have an undeclared dependency on the rpm package 'hostname', which may not be installed, can you check for that rpm package with 'rpm -q hostname' please. Jerry 2013/3/22 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 10:24 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. It takes some time because the conection is wi-fi and it takes a long time to negotiate the conection, the is restored a couple seconds before the scripts exists. The ideal would be to check if connection is up and then continue, with a simple ping to the previously found gateway should work and timeout after 2 minutes or so. DHCP servers on most routers are fast enough for that window of time with cable connections, but wireless could take a while. 2 minutes is more than enough. I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: I have to enable testing and upgrade the xs-cofig package? or is there a specific package that needs to be downloaded? We haven't updated the stable repo yet, the latest testing rpm is at: http://build.activitycentral.com/xs-repo/RPMS/noarch/?C=M;O=D You can then install the latest by hand with rpm if you wish. You will still need to have the repo file present to be able to install other packages. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 14:33 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:30 AM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: I used the testing repo. Installation, registration and access went well on my XO 1.75. Interesting. So I wonder whats up with my setup. I'm slightly different in that I'm not using a AP rather I have a USB network adapter in the client XO and I'm connecting directly to the USB adapter on the XS. That places 2 network adaptors on the client XO and might interfere with name resolution, just want to be sure what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf are. Can you post that info and maybe the output of route -n from the XO client please? The network functions fine it just won't register. We saw this once while testing, and has come up on the mailing list before, it appears that registration fails if the XS doesn't have a live internet connection(even with the XS-0.7). Does this new XS really have internet access? Same setup works if I connect to a 0.7 XS and if I nmap the 0.7 XS I see that port 8080 is open. I can see via netstat -nat that 8080 is open on the XS On the client XO please install nmap sudo yum -y install nmap and then sudo nmap schoolserver (assuming you took the default domain) and post the results. I'm curious if you have something on 8080. My XO's using the build-in wifi for access to the XS can register without any issues. Lets see what's up with the add-on network adaptor setup. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 12:54 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Richard Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Dunno. Where do I look for the version? rpm -q xs-config 0.8.2.100.18.g8895685-1 Thanks for the great feedback. I tried a 2nd install on a XO-1.5 I had and received exactly the same results. (Without the MN tag problem). The install appeared to go smoothly. ejabberd claimed it could not start up. There is an issue with ejabberd for XO-1.0/1.5s, I patched ejabberd with dsd's pubsub patch but rolled the rpm on ARM only, just need to find time to re-compile the source rpm on i386 and x86-64 and make it available in the yum repo. Reboot and the same httpd problem with pathagar exists. This is should now be fixed. Fixing that still does not correct the registration problem. There was a strange issue when parsing /domain_config.d/, I wrongly assumed that dhclient, where the hostname is being set, would run first based on the filename. This has been resolved. Running tcpdump on the exchange shows that the request to the webcache port is responded to with a RST. Nmap the sever and there's nothing running on port 8080. That most likely was a result of the above hostname failure. So whatever is supposed to be servicing that didn't happen. Other services look ok. ssh, dns, http are up, squid is up on 3128, xmpp on 5222 and 5280 and presence is on 5298. Identical behavior on the 1.75 server install. So I'd say either all my machines are broken somehow or there's been a regression. I'm going to bail and use XS .7 for my dev purposes as this yak is starting to get hairy. I can still run some diagnostics on the machines if you find you can't duplicate the failure and want more info. If you would be so brave to try the latest rpm, please start with the testing enabled repo[1]. I've also discovered that the terminal command prompt appears to have broken line wrapping. If you type really long lines in the terminal activity it will wrap back to the beginning of the same line rather than the next line. The command still works but it makes it difficult to review things when you look at history. This alteration has been removed. Hope this helps. It does, thanks. Jerry 1. http://build.activitycentral.com/xsce.repo ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Puppet
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 12:20 -0400, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Daniel Drake implemented Puppet for XS-0.7 (it is included in the services.). Tony I believe the rpm is installed but the service is left disabled as there would need to be some configuration needed to be preformed before rolling out. Jerry On 03/19/2013 12:00 PM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Send Server-devel mailing list submissions to server-devel@lists.laptop.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org You can reach the person managing the list at server-devel-ow...@lists.laptop.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Server-devel digest... Today's Topics: 1. puppet (Tim Moody) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:17:49 -0400 From: Tim Moody timmo...@sympatico.ca To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Server-devel] puppet Message-ID: blu0-smtp101a74e0dcd71752749e23cb1...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Over the years there have been a number of expressions of interest in puppet. Are there any modules out there for actual XS services? I know about http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/puppet-example/tree/, which has some manifests. -- ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel End of Server-devel Digest, Vol 71, Issue 14 . ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 14:33 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: I want to try and make some tweaks to the ds_backup so I need a working school server. I grabbed a random XO 1.75 I had with 12.1.0-21 installed and tried to install XSCE 0.2.1 but I was not successful in getting a working config. After installing xs-config-xo and runnign bootstrap-xo I received the message Not an XO pleasea run 'xs-config' So I did. xs-config: command not found. Searching for xs-config in the xs-config-xo package with rpm -ql I find that xs-config is not in that that package so I took a look at bootstrap-xo to see why it was unhappy. It was unhappy because I have a bastard machine and I have no MN manufacturing tag. :) Yea, that would cause the script to exit with a warning. However, looking at script I would recommnd that rather than read the mfg tags directly you try to source /usr/share/olpc-utils/olpc-utils-functions and use the facilties of that script. There are functions that will let you read mfg tags in an XO generation independent way and functions that will let you determine what XO generation you are using. Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look at what is available. I noticed several occurrences of error messages the debug output of xs-setup a message of: /usr/bin/xs-setup-functions: line 242: [: missing ']' You may want to start using [[ ]] rather than [ ] for tests as [[ ]] is much more tolerant and supports several enhancements over [ ] Nice to know thanks for the pointer. The rest of the installation appears to have gone ok except that ejabberd didn't seem to start up. The message was Failed RPC connection to the note ejabberd@schoolserver: nodedown That might be a result of bootstrap-x0 not running, we change the host name there to be schoolserver. On reboot various ejabber things seems to be running so perhaps that was expected. I'd think ejabberd would be running with the hostname that was configured at install time. If I go to a root shell I don't get an expected # in my prompt. The difference between olpc@ and root@ is hard to notice. I'd like to see a # added when you are root. That can be doable. Because I don't have a full deployment infra setup I ran into this http://sugardextrose.org/issues/2685 . Also nothing in the instructions indicate that when you set up a local AP for the XO lan you have to disable any dhcpd server that might be running on the AP. Obvious to me but perhaps not obvious to others and multiple dhcp servers can be a bitch to debug. Think we'll need to have a general howto on setting up the whole local lan in the future. Trying to register the XSCE with itself fails. Can't connect to the server Can't find schoolserver, related to the above failure to change the hostname. Trying to register a client XO to the schoolsever fails as well. The IP the the client received looks good. I can ping schoolserver and schoolserver.local and browsing the Internet works. Trying to browse to http://schoolserver or schoolserver.local dosen't work. Nmaping the server with my laptop shows that nothing is running on port 80. There's nothing in /var/log/httpd but systemctrl status httpd.service indicates there were startup errors and looking in /var/log/messages I find that httpd is choking on line 9 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/pathagar.conf which is: Odd that should of been disabled in the base install, which version of xs-config is installed? PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython rpm -q django shows its not installed so I tried yum -y install django but no dice. Still won't start up. Ideas? I've run out of time for now to try and sort this out. I'd just rename /etc/httpd/conf.d/pathagar.conf and retrying to restart apache as a quick fix. Jerry Cheers. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 19:10 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: Odd that should of been disabled in the base install, which version of xs-config is installed? Dunno. Where do I look for the version? rpm -q xs-config PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython rpm -q django shows its not installed so I tried yum -y install django but no dice. Still won't start up. Ideas? I've run out of time for now to try and sort this out. I'd just rename /etc/httpd/conf.d/pathagar.conf and retrying to restart apache as a quick fix. Worked. Thanks. your welcome, Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 on XO-1
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 10:52 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: For what it's worth (and me not giving a rodent's behind) contrary to popular consensus, I ran the XSCE instructions (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.2/Installing) on a XO-1. A couple of attempts ran out of space, so I restarted with a 12.1.0 image and removed /home/olpc/Library and emptied /home/olpc/Activities, except for Browse and Terminal (Browse for the cloud, and Terminal for everything else). On the third run, it ran all the way, and now manages to provide me with network activities. erlang/ejabberd is running. So are squid, avahi, dhcpd, named, and dhclient. httpd isn't so I'll peek in and see why. Not quite sure what else to do/check to see how it works. Does it have a web UI? If so, didn't spot that in the instructions. df -h tells me that rootfs mounted on / has 155M available. Perhaps getting rid of GNOME etc. will free up more space. Why did I do it? Short answer: Because I can. Longish answer: I would like to see a common methodology of installation and provisioning of services on all platforms, irrespective of form factor or CPU arch. So far, it's promising. cheers, Sameer Maybe you can install a SD-card in the external slot and run the OS from there, that should take care of the space constringent. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS Community Edition: XO 1.75 installtion
On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 17:31 +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Yes it is a 12.1.0 (build 10) as I cannot flash the new build 21 since the image I have is customised. Is your 1.75 locked? For the 1st installation I did not have the USB-Ethernet-AP connection plugin. Your best bet is to have all your interfaces plugging in before booting the XO, otherwise when we detect the number of interfaces we will miss installing some components that is vital to using the XS as a router. We prompt if we detect less than what is required for a router, but I prefer to have the interfaces appear in the same order as what the kernel will find if just rebooted. This is more of an issue when your using 2 usb based interfaces and not using the XO's internal wifi. Maybe I should use another XO to start all over again! I would prefer if you could use 12.1.0-21 as a starting point as that is what we are testing with. If you can't do that, please ensure your network adaptor is inserted before booting then run the install. Thanks for the detail step by step. Hope I have better luck the next time. see: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.2/Hacking Installing. Does Moodle, registration, etc work as usual with a complete install? Moodle is left uninstalled, but can be added later if wanted/needed, instructions to follow. Thanks for the valuable feedback, Jerry Cheers -Original Message- From: Anna [mailto:ascho...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 12:42 AM To: tkk...@nurturingasia.com Cc: server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [Server-devel] XS Community Edition: XO 1.75 installtion Just to clarify, you're on a 1.75 running 12.1.0? And before you started doing anything in the instructions, did you plug in a USB wifi dongle connected to a powered up AP? My usual process for getting ready to install is: 1. Flash 12.1.0 on a 1.75 2. It reboots itself, I set the buddy name 3. In NH, I connect to my home wifi 4. Turn off power management in the Sugar Control Panel 5. Plug in the ethernet cable that connects the usb wifi dongle to the AP 6. Plug the AP's power into the wall outlet 7. Insert the usb wifi dongle into the 1.75 8. Open the terminal activity and start following the install instructions On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Must I use an external AP or there is more magic if the XO wirless can function as this ? As far as I know, the XO's wifi chip doesn't support AP mode, so unfortunately no. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Re-register an XO on XS schoolserver
On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 13:10 +0100, vanessa ramos da cruz wrote: Halo, I am Vanessa, I am working in Angola with this project and have a little concern: I had a server with XS 0.6, I registered on it some XO’s just for tests. Now I have a new machine on witch I installed the XS 0.7. I want to register the XO's in the new Machine, but the right click register option disappears when a register the XO's at the first time. Can you please help me? I tried this on terminal to restore the right click register option: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/sugar/show_register Returned the following message: no value defined for: /desktop/sugar/show_register Then i tried this: gconftool-2 --toggle /desktop/sugar/show_register Returned: no value found for key /desktop/sugar/show_register What else can i do? Hi Vanessa Can you try: gconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/sugar/backup_url '' gconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/sugar/collaboration/jabber_server '' then reboot the XO. This appears to for me here with sugar 0.84 base installs. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Re-register an XO on XS schoolserver
Not with my testing it took both gconf keys to make register come back just tried the ui only and it doesn't work on 0.84.31 On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 11:37 -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: Older OS builds may not be able to re-register by default, but I think resorting to the command line may be overdoing it. I seem to recall that deleting the schoolserver name from the Network control panel and pressing the OK (checkmark) button was enough to get the Register item to appear again (possibly after a reboot). On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 13:10 +0100, vanessa ramos da cruz wrote: Halo, I am Vanessa, I am working in Angola with this project and have a little concern: I had a server with XS 0.6, I registered on it some XO’s just for tests. Now I have a new machine on witch I installed the XS 0.7. I want to register the XO's in the new Machine, but the right click register option disappears when a register the XO's at the first time. Can you please help me? I tried this on terminal to restore the right click register option: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/sugar/show_register Returned the following message: no value defined for: /desktop/sugar/show_register Then i tried this: gconftool-2 --toggle /desktop/sugar/show_register Returned: no value found for key /desktop/sugar/show_register What else can i do? Hi Vanessa Can you try: gconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/sugar/backup_url '' gconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/sugar/collaboration/jabber_server '' then reboot the XO. This appears to for me here with sugar 0.84 base installs. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] usbmount alternatives
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 11:24 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 08:23 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: Think the issue might be that a list (sda sda1) of character files is passed by udev but usbmount doesn't test if it's a block device before trying to mount, then failing and bailing if the first device in the list doesn't mount. sda and sda1 will never be character devices, always block. It may try sda first, but I don't think that is something new. OK a list of files found in /dev then, why would anybody try to mount sda if sda1 is present? I can see trying to mount sda if there was no partition table present, but if there is a table why try? It's going to fail. Doesn't matter, there are acceptable replacements for that functionality, just another package that's not part of Fedora that won't need to be maintained going forward. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 67, Issue 12
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 08:46 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, I placed the activities in the library on the school server -Django app. Browse downloads a selected activity. Users can erase unneeded activities to manage storage (they can always be installed again). The updater is not really needed since the model is that the deployment updates the server annually before school starts. This seems reasonable since most activity updates relate to changes in the Sugar environment which also would be updated annually. Any reason your not using the XS's built-in activity server?[1] Seems like a better way of using the built-in[2] software on the XO which looks for the schoolserver for activities to be updated by default without adding anything new to the XS except for the newer activities. It was reported at one time that the underlying model (Firefox add-ons) was moving to Django and that ASLO would do so also. If that happens, it would be easy to remount on a SS. Tony Not knocking your implementation just wondering why use Django as you could still browse to the activities at: http://schoolserver/activities/ Jerry 1. http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/xs-activity-server/ 2. http://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-update-control On 11/26/2012 07:00 PM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:39:52 -0600 From: Jerry Vonaujvo...@shaw.ca To: Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu Cc: XS Develserver-devel@lists.laptop.org,Sugar-dev Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Server-devel] offline a.sl.o Message-ID:1353904792.1818.2.ca...@f14jerry.home.vonau.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 20:04 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: Has anyone looked into running an offline copy of activities.sugarlabs.org on a server that isn't on the Internet (a la XS)? What would be do-able except sugar's activity updater on the XO would select every activity for installation by default[1]. Jerry 1.http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/034022.html cheers, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://commons.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] offline a.sl.o
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 20:04 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: Has anyone looked into running an offline copy of activities.sugarlabs.org on a server that isn't on the Internet (a la XS)? What would be do-able except sugar's activity updater on the XO would select every activity for installation by default[1]. Jerry 1. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/034022.html cheers, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://commons.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Moodle conection
On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 14:17 +0100, vanessa ramos da cruz wrote: Halo all! I am trying to connect Moodle and i get the following message: Error: Database connection failed. It is possible that the database is overloaded or otherwise not running properly. The site administrator should also check that the database details have been correctly specified in config.php I am using XS 0.7. Can some one help me? You might of missed a configuration detail, can you tell me the steps you did to install the XS? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] trouble accessing HTTP server when using manual network configuration
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 20:37 -0500, David Kanenwisher wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get the 0.7 of the school server to work on a laptop that needs to be taken to different schools which already have an existing network. I don't want to run the network setup tool since I'm concerned enabling DHCP and DNS will cause trouble on the school's network. Sadly, though not running the setup seems to have made the HTTP server unreachable and I'm stumped as to why. I set the hostname of the server to the IP address assigned to the server by the router via DHCP and configured Apache to listen on all interfaces. When I run netstat I can see Apache is listening on all interfaces on port 80, as configured. I can use wget on the server to retrieve the webpage at localhost, 127.0.0.1 and the IP address given by DHCP. When I try to wget or telnet to the server from another PC I get a message that the host is unreachable even though, using tcpdump, I can see packets arriving on the server. Also, I can ssh to the server from another PC. I feel like I'm missing something obvious and was reluctant for quite a while to message the list. I figured I must be close! The solution just around the corner, but I realize now that I'm stumped. Any help would be much appreciated or if you need anymore info I'd be glad to get it. Some DNS server on the school's network will have to resolve schoolserver for the clients. To fix this without relying on an outside server that is not under our control I think the clients should use nss-mdns to locate the schoolserver in the future. In the here and now you will have to contact the DNS server's admins and ask them to make an entry in the DNS for your schoolserver. Hope nothing else is already called schoolserver. Jerry Thanks, David Kanenwisher ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] units of measure for REGISTER_TIMEOUT in schoolserver.py
Hi All: I wondering what unit of measure is used for REGISTER_TIMEOUT in schoolserver.py. Think this variable may be a good candidate to store in gconf to allow alteration in the field as a means of resolving the timeout issues that have been reported. While working on the XS port to F17 we ran across this issue and found that doubling the original value eliminated this problem. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 10:28 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Jerry, I had to manually add http://schoolserver/activities; to the Group under Software Update in the Control Panel. Then, when I run the update, it pings the XS and grabs new activities. Is this expected behavior? Yes. For a deployment you would use olpc-os-builder to preset that address. Think if you use OOB to install system-wide you disable the auto-detection of schoolserver in sugar-update-control. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 10:28 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Jerry, I had to manually add http://schoolserver/activities; to the Group under Software Update in the Control Panel. Then, when I run the update, it pings the XS and grabs new activities. Is this expected behavior? Yes. For a deployment you would use olpc-os-builder to preset that address. And yes, there is a missing link in that this currently must be user-invoked; theres no fully automated way of pushing activities yet. I hope to be a part of solving that in a future release cycle. Daniel Hi All: I've cc'd other that may have some interest in this and may be able to chime in on the subject. I'd prefer to call Software Update in the Control Panel Activity Updater from OLPC. You're able to call Activity Updater from OLPC from the cli in a terminal with ./model.py and get a listing but need something the equivalent to view.py for use from the cli to be useful for blind installation. We've in OLPCAU have been using sugar-client[1] to run yum in the background, so I've been thinking that we could maybe extend sugar-client to run Activity Updater in the same way. Think the additions to sugar-client and sugar-update-control might be of some interest to those who use sugar-client to push updates to the XO's. This is also related to patches[2] sent to the mailing-list altering the behaviour in that only pre-existing activities would be selected for updates, here is the use case for improvements suggested. This has opened up an avenue in which we can offer bundles that are not installed on the image but can be user installed on demand[3]. This requires a minor change to OOB to use a different url[4] for the update. We have deployed this in the field and have received positive feed. Jerry 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Platform_Team/Server_Kit/sugar-client 2. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/034022.html 3. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/383 4. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/OLPCAU/11.3.1/Addons ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 14:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Is there a way to push activities (new or upgrades) or activity bundles to XOs seamlessly via the XS? Been looking at the documentation on the wiki, but no luck as yet... http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/dbagnall/xs-activity-server.git/tree/README Think sugar-update-control supports looking for http://schoolserver/activities by default. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] registering an xo for second time
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 15:48 +0100, vanessa ramos da cruz wrote: Halo! I am Vanessa; I am working in Angola with this project. I am new on the project so I have a little concern: I had a server with XS 0.6, I registered on it some XO’s just for tests. Now I have a new machine on witch I installed the XS 0.7. I would like to register the XO‘s on this new Machine. How ca I registered the few XO’s I already registered before? Try entering this from sugar's terminal activity: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/sugar/show_register If false is returned, you could try toggling that setting with: gconftool-2 --toggle /desktop/sugar/show_register Hope that restores the right-click register option to the home view for you. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Networking issue with XS 0.7 on EPC-AT270
On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 09:57 +1000, David Leeming wrote: Hello, I am training some teachers in PNG to set up school servers. We are using the EPC-AT270 (brochure attached, specs on page 7) and previously have installed X_-v0.6 with no problems at all. This time I am trying XS-0.7 but we have a networking issue. It does not configure either of the two Ethernet ports. The EPC-AT270 has two Ethernet ports. The installation is completely default as per the wiki 0.7 installation guide, from CD, starting with an unformatted HDD. No errors are displayed on the screen during installation (but there is some scrolling of data). After installing, the first symptom is that when plugging in a computer or AP to either eth0 or eth1, the port LEDs do not light up and no network is seen by the connecting device. When querying ifconfig –a I can see eth0 and eth1 but they have no IP configuration. Any next steps? Meanwhile we are reverting to 0.6 which is OK on the EPC To late to run mii-tool now, or check which kernel modules were loaded. Or check if HWADDR was set in ifcfg-eth0|1 while having 2 nics with the same kernel module: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11678 Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Error Installing XS 0.7 from USB: can't find image #1 on disk
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 21:51 -0700, Brian wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Using the windows tool is not recommended, use mkusbinstall[1] from the XS-repo, and you would need livecd-tools from Fedora 16 or greater installed. Which version of the windows tool are are you using? Maybe we can work with what was created, can you show me the layout that was created on the I don't have another Linux box available here to run mkusbinstall. I tried unetbootin but it wouldnt make it bootable so tried another app called Rufus iirc which is like DD for windows to move the ISO to USB. I booted into rescue mode and mounted /dev/sdb1 and here are the contents of /: Packages/ TRANS.TBL autorun.ico Autorun.inf images/ isolinux/ ldlinux.sys media.repo olpcxs.ks repodata/ syslinux.cfg In images/ are install.img, updates.img. Brian Based on the updates.img[1] think the installer is looking for the iso image of the cdrom, can you try copying the whole XS iso image to the root of the usbdrive, rename repodata, packages, and media.repo. Try that first, if that fails you might have to revert the changes to isolinux.cfg and try again. Jerry 1.http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder/tree/xs-0.7/anaconda/usbinstall.patch ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Moodle broken with 0.94 datastore?
Hi All: Just wondering if anybody else is having problems viewing backups created from sugar 0.94 or greater clients? Drilling down though the menus in moodle to view the status results in an error Datastore is corrupt or has an unknown format when trying to view a XO-1.75's current backups. I haven't tried with XO-1.5 yet. I see that there are current entries in /library/user/SN. Any thoughts on how to proceed? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] failed to register
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 07:22 -0400, Holt wrote: On 6/4/2012 9:16 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jerry Vonaujvo...@shaw.ca wrote: OK, let's check if the XS has the serial numbers, what is the output of /usr/bin/xs-list-registration? If that shows as correct the XOs timed out like in ticket 11056. Can you use the register again option from the home view? If that option is not available you'll have to manually add schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm to network-control-panel's server field and you should be good to go. Jerry [sverma@schoolserver ~]$ /usr/bin/xs-list-registration Listing students from /home/idmgr/identity.db roshaun marchall SHC03801C2E userSHC03801C74 userSHC03801C78 userSHC03801C65 xo SHC03801C40 Ti-Annah Grant SHC03801C31 userSHC03801C4F xo SHC03801C33 dadrique hamilton cianna SHC03801C6B xo SHC03801C77 malikha Algeca BradnockSHC03801C32 user jahleel foster SHC03801C51 makada SHC03801C7F userSHC03801C34 shanell moss SHC03801C57 userSHC03801C18 I'm logging in remotely from San Francisco. Adam can give you the answer on the register again option cheers, Sameer XO-1.5s do not show a Register Again option, except on that 1 single machine that registered successfully back on Saturday. That single XO-1.5 registered successfully (back on Saturday) regardless whether its My Settings - Network - Server was set to schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm or was not set to anything at all. As of Monday/now however, XO-1.5s cannot similarly register, no matter if My Settings - Network - Server is set or not, even with schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm remaining pingable. Anything else I can try? Is idmgr running? Should show as running on port 8080 with netstat. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] failed to register
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 20:04 -0400, Holt wrote:
On 6/4/2012 7:32 PM, John Watlington wrote:
On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:30 PM, John Watlington wrote:
Adam, something is wrong with those addresses.
The 18.nn.nn.nn subnet is owned by MIT. You shouldn't be
using any of them.Perhaps you meant 172.18.nn.nn ?
Wad's exactly right -- I spent too many years at MIT and so typed 18.*
without thinking. The correct IPs for the XS (no idea why there are 2)
are in fact:
172.18.0.1 (pingable, ssh, etc)
172.18.196.1 (schoolserver?)
Still don't think that is right, mine is using 172.18.96.1, what's in
the ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-eth1 filea in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/?
I remain very concerned that 172.18.196.1 is not pingable from the
XO-1.5s, even when this IP's names {schoolserver,
schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm} are pingable, responding with
172.18.196.1
Have a look in the /var/run/named-xs/school.internal.zone.db file think
there might be an error there, but mine has 172.18.96.1.
What is in /etc/dhcpd-xs-conf?
In Response to DSD:
There is no server set in My Settings Network Server on any of the
XO-1.5s
Hopefully Sameer who helped with the original XS networking config 2
months ago can respond to Wad's WAN/LAN request below??
DSD, any way to quickly restore the stock settings?
Jerry
And I never got around to the second part of the comment.
eth0 (the WAN port) on the XS should be in a different subnet
than the laptops (the LAN ports).If for some reason it is not,
difficulties will ensue as the routing tables will be screwed up.
Cheers,
wad
On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Holt wrote:
On 6/4/2012 3:27 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jerry Vonaujvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 13:15 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
XS 0.7
OLPC build 874
Sugar 0.92.2
The XO fails to register, but a folder is created for the XO on the XS
under /library/users/
The XO shows no collaboration server under Control Panel | Network
Any ideas? Pointers?
cheers,
Sameer
On the XS I see the machine as registered via /var/log/messages
(schoolserver olpc_idmgr: Registered user abcdefgh with serial
SHC03345845)
So, looks like the server end is doing what it should, but the XO end
is not?
Think you bumped into this: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11056
Jerry
Thx. Will investigate. Copying Adam Holt and the Jamaica team on it
(the trouble in in a school there).
Sameer
One XO-1.5 successfully registered back on Saturday. It successfully
then pushed 36MB to the XS' /library/users/SHC03801C2E (after running
/usr/bin/ds-backup.sh on the XO-1.5 and waiting ~30min). So we went home
Saturday night with a false sense of confidence!
But no XO-1.5s will fully register today (all ~50 of the school's XOs are
XO-1.5s).
Clearly, Jamaica's change from XS 0.6 to XS 0.7 two months ago destroyed
reliable registration?
Frustrating as all XO-1.5s do connect to XS, whose /library/users become
populated with each XO's serial number, when they 1st attempt to
register. EG. directory /library/users/SHC03801C18 on XS is just 1 of
many examples of an XO-1.5 incompletely registering -- all similar
directories contain:
.bash_logout
.bash_profile
.bashrc
.ssh
Is it normal that XO-1.5s can ping the schoolserver in these 3 ways:
ping 18.172.0.1
ping schoolserver(responds as 18.172.196.1)
ping schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm(responds as
18.172.196.1)
But yet CANNOT ping the schoolserver's eth0 IP address:
ping 18.172.196.1(its inet addr according to ifconfig etho
anyway)
If it matters, a failng-to-register XO-1.5's /etc/resolv.conf reads as
follows:
# Generated by NetworkManager
domain providence.uwimona.edu.jm
search providence.uwimona.edu.jm localdomain
nameserver 172.18.196.1
What should I be trying?? :)
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Re: [Server-devel] failed to register
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 17:49 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 20:04 -0400, Holt wrote:
On 6/4/2012 7:32 PM, John Watlington wrote:
On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:30 PM, John Watlington wrote:
Adam, something is wrong with those addresses.
The 18.nn.nn.nn subnet is owned by MIT. You shouldn't be
using any of them.Perhaps you meant 172.18.nn.nn ?
Wad's exactly right -- I spent too many years at MIT and so typed 18.*
without thinking. The correct IPs for the XS (no idea why there are 2)
are in fact:
172.18.0.1 (pingable, ssh, etc)
172.18.196.1 (schoolserver?)
Still don't think that is right, mine is using 172.18.96.1, what's in
the ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-eth1 filea in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/?
I remain very concerned that 172.18.196.1 is not pingable from the
XO-1.5s, even when this IP's names {schoolserver,
schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm} are pingable, responding with
172.18.196.1
Have a look in the /var/run/named-xs/school.internal.zone.db file think
there might be an error there, but mine has 172.18.96.1.
What is in /etc/dhcpd-xs-conf?
In Response to DSD:
There is no server set in My Settings Network Server on any of the
XO-1.5s
Hopefully Sameer who helped with the original XS networking config 2
months ago can respond to Wad's WAN/LAN request below??
DSD, any way to quickly restore the stock settings?
Settings are stock. Adam confused 172.18.96.1 as 172.18.196.1
Sameer
Adam:
OK, let's check if the XS has the serial numbers, what is the output of
/usr/bin/xs-list-registration? If that shows as correct the XOs timed
out like in ticket 11056. Can you use the register again option from
the home view? If that option is not available you'll have to manually
add schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm to network-control-panel's
server field and you should be good to go.
Jerry
Jerry
And I never got around to the second part of the comment.
eth0 (the WAN port) on the XS should be in a different subnet
than the laptops (the LAN ports).If for some reason it is not,
difficulties will ensue as the routing tables will be screwed up.
Cheers,
wad
On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Holt wrote:
On 6/4/2012 3:27 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jerry Vonaujvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 13:15 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu
wrote:
XS 0.7
OLPC build 874
Sugar 0.92.2
The XO fails to register, but a folder is created for the XO on
the XS
under /library/users/
The XO shows no collaboration server under Control Panel | Network
Any ideas? Pointers?
cheers,
Sameer
On the XS I see the machine as registered via /var/log/messages
(schoolserver olpc_idmgr: Registered user abcdefgh with serial
SHC03345845)
So, looks like the server end is doing what it should, but the XO
end is not?
Think you bumped into this: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11056
Jerry
Thx. Will investigate. Copying Adam Holt and the Jamaica team on it
(the trouble in in a school there).
Sameer
One XO-1.5 successfully registered back on Saturday. It successfully
then pushed 36MB to the XS' /library/users/SHC03801C2E (after running
/usr/bin/ds-backup.sh on the XO-1.5 and waiting ~30min). So we went
home Saturday night with a false sense of confidence!
But no XO-1.5s will fully register today (all ~50 of the school's XOs
are XO-1.5s).
Clearly, Jamaica's change from XS 0.6 to XS 0.7 two months ago
destroyed reliable registration?
Frustrating as all XO-1.5s do connect to XS, whose /library/users
become populated with each XO's serial number, when they 1st attempt
to register. EG. directory /library/users/SHC03801C18 on XS is just 1
of many examples of an XO-1.5 incompletely registering -- all
similar directories contain:
.bash_logout
.bash_profile
.bashrc
.ssh
Is it normal that XO-1.5s can ping the schoolserver in these 3 ways:
ping 18.172.0.1
ping schoolserver(responds as 18.172.196.1)
ping schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm(responds as
18.172.196.1)
But yet CANNOT ping the schoolserver's eth0 IP address:
ping 18.172.196.1(its inet addr according to ifconfig etho
anyway)
If it matters, a failng-to-register XO-1.5's /etc/resolv.conf reads as
follows:
# Generated by NetworkManager
domain providence.uwimona.edu.jm
search providence.uwimona.edu.jm localdomain
nameserver 172.18.196.1
What should I be trying?? :)
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Re: [Server-devel] failed to register
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 18:16 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: snip Adam: OK, let's check if the XS has the serial numbers, what is the output of /usr/bin/xs-list-registration? If that shows as correct the XOs timed out like in ticket 11056. Can you use the register again option from the home view? If that option is not available you'll have to manually add schoolserver.providence.uwimona.edu.jm to network-control-panel's server field and you should be good to go. Jerry [sverma@schoolserver ~]$ /usr/bin/xs-list-registration Listing students from /home/idmgr/identity.db roshaun marchall SHC03801C2E user SHC03801C74 user SHC03801C78 user SHC03801C65 xoSHC03801C40 Ti-Annah GrantSHC03801C31 user SHC03801C4F xoSHC03801C33 dadrique hamilton cianna SHC03801C6B xoSHC03801C77 malikha Algeca Bradnock SHC03801C32 user jahleel foster SHC03801C51 makadaSHC03801C7F user SHC03801C34 shanell moss SHC03801C57 user SHC03801C18 I'm logging in remotely from San Francisco. Adam can give you the answer on the register again option cheers, Sameer Never tried with having the same user-name for more than one XO, not sure on how well that will go. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] failed to register
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 13:15 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: XS 0.7 OLPC build 874 Sugar 0.92.2 The XO fails to register, but a folder is created for the XO on the XS under /library/users/ The XO shows no collaboration server under Control Panel | Network Any ideas? Pointers? cheers, Sameer On the XS I see the machine as registered via /var/log/messages (schoolserver olpc_idmgr: Registered user abcdefgh with serial SHC03345845) So, looks like the server end is doing what it should, but the XO end is not? Think you bumped into this: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11056 Jerry -- Sameer ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] How-to make the XS appear in the neighbourhood view of the XOs
Hi All: I was thinking that since the XOs uses two different methods to display what is seen in the neighbourhood view, how can I make the XS appear when using salut? I'm thinking if that can occur then maybe we could advertise that this is an XS. We then could have the register to schoolserver menu occur at that point, in place of using hard-coded names that depend on dns to work. Any thoughts on the subject? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] xs-pkgs
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 16:23 -0400, Tim Moody wrote: That is not a package, the @ makes it a group definition in the *comps.xml file in /repodata on the XS iso image. You must loopback mount the iso to view the file, then have a look for that string. Well, you're right as usual. (also I said xs-pkgs remembering 0.6, when I should have said olpc-xs). I found a file '83aa5dc6a7d65fb600d12d70ec102379a719c6bad8b6acc5c0276a8439ad251f-OLPC School Server-0.7-comps.xml' snip Still don't know why this didn't install. The anaconda-ks.cfg after the install only shows the following. Does the XS need to be able to reach the internet in order for the install to succeed? All the packages to be installed should be on the cd and should not require a connection to the internet. Was a network connection available during the install? Were you using cobbler for the install? %packages @Base @Core %end so it looks like these didn't install @system-admin-tools @olpc-xs xs-release epel-release Can you send me the anaconda.ks file please. yum groupinstall OLPC XS only succeeded after I deleted everything in /etc/yum.repos.d/ except my local repo. This included external mirrors for Centos and olpcxs. How do they get into this directory? The files that reside in /etc/yum.repos.d/ are placed there by the *-release files that get installed. Sounds like yum is ignoring the groups that are not part of the primary CentOS repo. Mind sending me the /etc/yum.conf file and the stock *.repo files from the XS please. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] xs-pkgs
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 17:52 -0400, Tim Moody wrote: I tried to do an install from OLPC-School-Server-0.7-i386.iso using cobbler. Sorry haven't tried cobbler yet, I'm no help there. The olpcxs.ks looks for @olpc-xs, but I don't see it in the Packages directory. All I see are: idmgr-0.6.36.ge93529d-1.el6.noarch.rpm olpc-bios-crypto-0.5.26.g1972d11-1.xs11.i586.rpm xs-activation-0.3.14.gd2a3727-1.el6.noarch.rpm xs-activity-server-0.3.5.g3b1d13b-1.el6.noarch.rpm xs-config-0.7.0.46.g9b886c8-1.noarch.rpm xs-release-6-1.noarch.rpm xs-rsync-0.6.12.gabc8f49-1.el6.noarch.rpm xs-tools-0.5.5.g49ddc07-1.el6.noarch.rpm what should I do? That is not a package, the @ makes it a group definition in the *comps.xml file in /repodata on the XS iso image. You must loopback mount the iso to view the file, then have a look for that string. (btw installing straight from cd never worked for me as it failed on the disk partitioning regardless of the options I chose) From a kickstart file or by hand in the installer? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] named problem resolved-but not understood
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 13:26 -0500, George Hunt wrote: Hi again, Please disregard my previous question. . . Trial and error indicates that if the two option elements query-source port 53 and query-source-v6 port 53 are commented out, caching, ping, and default contents of resolv.conf function according to plan. Why did it work before? Maybe CentOS does something different? Change in name's default behaviour. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS on XO
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 18:08 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: So, to start looking into XS on XO (1 or 1.5) using the CentOS6.2 or compatible + EPEL + OLPC XS repo is 11.3.0 a good place to start, or 12.1.0 or I shouldn't waste my time as yet? Sameer I'm going to try that with 11.3.1 XS + fedora repos. When I get a chance. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS on XO
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 22:08 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: I'd recommend, on XO-1.5 - take a 11.x.y buid - use the yum repos dsd prepared for XS, groupinstall the right group (OLPC School Server?) Think I know how group install works. remember. ;) Just have to install the release rpm first. - disable the prefdm service (remove/rename /etc/init/prefdm) - disable NM service, enable the 'network' service (using chkconfig) Think I'd prefer to use NM, but run the network as a system-service not user service. F14 and RHEL/CentOS6.2 are very close, the only incompat I am aware of is the Erlang runtime, so you probably need to rebuild ejabberd... Let us know what you find! Will do, Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS-0.7 beta 1 released
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 16:39 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 now includes instructions and a working link for a XS-0.7 beta install CD. You can also create USB install media easier than before, and this works great. Also, a couple of packages in the repo have been updated since last week (yum update should work fine for existing installs to pull them in) fixing a couple of minor bugs. This version will be deployed in 6 test schools on Thursday/Friday here in Managua. I hope to label this version as 0.7 final (if Martin approves) on Monday morning, to be installed that day on 13 servers sent to the island of Ometepe the day after. Any last-minute testing appreciated. Thanks, Daniel Hi Daniel: Just downloaded the install iso, before I burn this to cd should /isolinux/initrd.img and /images/pxeboot/vmlinuz be 0 bytes in the iso? In /isolinux/isolinux.cfg, upgradeany is used with full install options, think that will force anaconda into upgrade mode. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Who wrote http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Install_Server?
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 13:05 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 12:40 -0500, George Hunt wrote: Hi everyone, I'm new to this list. Hi George: I'm the author of the XSAU-F11 based rework of the XS that Sridhar is referring to. I met Tony Anderson in Haiti, and again at the San Francisco OLPC Summit in late 2011. He prevailed upon me to spend some time trying to figure out how to rebase XS on a more recent Fedora Core. I just recently used pungi to gather together FC16 rpms into an iso using the kickstart file that came with XS-0.6. What was 550MB in FC9 has grown to 775MB in FC16. My initial goal was to create a CD image, that can be installed in the traditional way. But going forward, even if we can pare things down and fit in 690MB this time, perhaps we need a better strategy. Think some of the issue is most likely that X is being dragged in or some extra files on the image. What is the file layout of the resulting iso image? http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder is the new way of using pungi for the XS, my local version is at: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xs-au/repository/revisions/master/show/olpc-xs-builder/xsau-F11 The key is to use the olpcxs-pungi.ks file to gather the rpms and exclude what is not wanted before rolling the iso. Please have a look at build.sh for the whole routine used. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Who wrote http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Install_Server?
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 21:28 -0500, George Hunt wrote: Thanks Jerry, You've done what I wanted to discuss -- split apart the xs from a bare bones Fedora Core, and defer XS install until after firstboot. Well no, not really, the install is kickstart driven, usb-based with the XS packages installed and configured at installation time. This release is targeted for a single network interface, all the XS pieces are installed but service such as iptables and squid are left un-configured. So I'll spin a FC16 iso, and try to get it ready to do a phase 2 install via usbmount, and maybe tftp across the network. Once you have the rpms ported over it F16, having a repo on a usbkey or elsewhere on the net is trivial. Do you know if there is a script that automates the rpm generation from sources at dev.laptop.org? Sorry I don't think there is such a beast. Martin, any input here? It'll take a few days, since I'm relocating from Calif to NYC Wednesday, and have other priority tasks. George Let me know what you what to do, I could most likely save you a bunch of time. Jerry On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 13:05 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 12:40 -0500, George Hunt wrote: Hi everyone, I'm new to this list. Hi George: I'm the author of the XSAU-F11 based rework of the XS that Sridhar is referring to. I met Tony Anderson in Haiti, and again at the San Francisco OLPC Summit in late 2011. He prevailed upon me to spend some time trying to figure out how to rebase XS on a more recent Fedora Core. I just recently used pungi to gather together FC16 rpms into an iso using the kickstart file that came with XS-0.6. What was 550MB in FC9 has grown to 775MB in FC16. My initial goal was to create a CD image, that can be installed in the traditional way. But going forward, even if we can pare things down and fit in 690MB this time, perhaps we need a better strategy. Think some of the issue is most likely that X is being dragged in or some extra files on the image. What is the file layout of the resulting iso image? http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder is the new way of using pungi for the XS, my local version is at: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xs-au/repository/revisions/master/show/olpc-xs-builder/xsau-F11 The key is to use the olpcxs-pungi.ks file to gather the rpms and exclude what is not wanted before rolling the iso. Please have a look at build.sh for the whole routine used. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] mesh and newer builds
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 20:53 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Seeing an interesting behavior with XS 0.6 and newer 11.2 XO-1 builds. 1) I have a XS-on-XO-1 which shows up in the Neighborhood as school-mesh-0 but when I connect the XO client, I get a 169.254.xxx.xxx address and the XO won't register. If I connect to mesh1, I get a 172.18.xxx.xxx address, and the XO registers. Just checking... Where is the ssid mesh1 coming from? Are you changing the ssid in ifcfg-wmesh0? Or are both active on the XS-on-XO at the same time? Are you using an AA? 2) I am seeing similar behavior with a mesh antenna (prototype black box with screw-on antenna) in Bhagmalpur (http://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/) I take it that this change of behavior is due to dropping support for mesh in newer builds? Any way to change this on the server to gain expected behavior ? More or less, yes. What is happening is when sugar detects an adhoc network it assumes that the network is link-local and never tries to use dhcp to gain a network address. If you can switch over gnome and connect to school-mesh-0 you should see the network info has been supplied by the dhcp server on the XS-XO. Once in sugar your back to using 169.254 Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS on the XO 1.5
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 19:10 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: I was thinking (once again) about the possibility of running XS on a XO 1.5. On the XO-1 the built-in radio runs in the 802.11s mesh mode and serves out IPs via DHCP. Given that the 1.5 does not do 802.11s mesh, can't the radio instead simply work in adhoc mode and serve the same purpose? In short yes, you need to switch over to gnome to configure the network, and in IPv4 Settings switch the Method over to Link-Local Only This XO is then seen as an AP on the other XO's in sugar, connect up and test. I am not sure what the limitations would be of adhoc vs mesh mode in terms of number of clients. Thoughts? Not sure on that one.. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS server struggles
On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 18:34 +0930, Tom Daly wrote: G'Day all, I am trying to setup up an XS server to support a deployment we have of XO 1.5's in Timor Leste. I have setup a USB boot and have worked through David Leeming's XS installation instructions and I appear to have a working XS server, I can ping and access the yum repos via eth0 (I used xsau-testing for my update). I am not using a wireless access point, I was figuring I could just use the wireless of the small netbook to communicate with the XOs (although I note that the wireless port of the XS server has no IP allocated). Is this a bad assumption ? Well, kind of, I don't have a quick how-to on how to do that, and not all wifi card can act as an AP. Your in uncharted waters here but you would need to have in your wifi card's ifcfg-device file: DEVICE=device edit this to be the same as ifcfg-device ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Wireless MODE=ad-hoc CHANNEL=1change to suit ESSID=school-mesh-0 change to suit MASTER=lanbond0 SLAVE=yes NM_CONTROLLED=no HOTPLUG=yes This will place your wifi device as a slave of lanbond0 and should be bonded to it, picking up the ip info from it. - is there something I should be reading about how get the XOs using the XS The XS model assumes 2 network cards, not nic card and one wifi. - I want to be able to use the XS mainly for software distribution, so as to avoid the folks in Timor having to insert a flash drive into each XO ..is this possible if so how and what do I read to find out how to do this ? Once the XO's can use the XS's dhcp server everything should just work. thanks for any pointers/help regards Tom Daly Good luck, Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] OLPC Australia XS concerns
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 10:41 -0400, Tim Moody wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Techniques_and_Configuration#Installing_from_USB has a download for the script, but it seems broken. Where did you get it? Is it something simple like needing to issue ./mkusbinstall or use sudo? If you google mkusbinstall there are several versions http://dev.laptop.org.au/search?q=mkusbinstall has some info. There is a link to the scrip in this email, but in might not be the latest version. Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca 1220119632Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:07:12 PM Link Here Print view Hi All: Here is a quick howto: Grab a usb flash drive, I chose a superstore core micro 2gb cost $11.19 cdn, no endorsement just the closest to my house. Insert the drive in to the usb port, mine became usb0 on the desktop, which is sdb1 in /dev. umount it, umount /dev/sdb1. toggle the bootable flag with fdisk, umount again. grab: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstal... run my mkusbinstall with: mkusbinstall path/to/iso /dev/path This is the latest version, should be run on a post F12 host. http://download.laptop.org.au/XS/F9/XS-AU/tools/ I wrote mkusbinstall before functionally to use a install iso as a source was added to livecd-tools. I should write up a how to use livecd-tools to achieve the same thing with a little hand editing. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Regarding my OLPC XS Wishlist
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 09:37 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:20:55AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:29:51PM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: (completed over a year ago) If I got it right, it is still the same OLPC XS code base but w/ tweaks? sugar-server in that case is a new project w/ more tough and localized design. btw whats the clon url for http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xs-au/repository reading sources from web pages is not too useful git.laptop.org.au/xo-au/ git.laptop.org.au/xs-au/ Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Regarding my OLPC XS Wishlist
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 09:20 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:29:51PM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 28 May 2011 08:31, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:39:54AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 21:14 +0545, Abhishek Singh wrote: Dear All, I've put down my OLPC XS wishlist at http://asingh.com.np/blog/olpc-xs-my-wishlist/ . Please comment upon it. Thank You. Thank you! Forwarding this to the Dextrose list as well. I've also CCed guys who do XS work in .au Abhishek: thanks for sharing your wishlist. From my side, I see the whole picture in case of school server like having: * sugar-server[1], the base of any school server. it doesn't provide stuff like moodle (too complicated to be basic) or puppet (useless on this level, since configuring sugar-server should be just install packages/iso and do some automatic work, the higher levels might user puppet or so) * any additional services that might be useful in some deployments but are not basic, eg, moodle or wiki. sugar-server should provide needed info via reliable API for these services. in my mind, such services might be formed as separate projects (like sugar-server-moodle) to make it possible to attach it on purpose (there might be useful configuration tool that is being used in sugar-server, mace[2]). * final products that include components on purpose (but sugar-server is a required one). It is entirely depends on local needs. We are looking to make our XS-AU[0] more modular to suit different use cases. Our initial goal (completed over a year ago) If I got it right, it is still the same OLPC XS code base but w/ tweaks? more or less, yes. [1] sugar-server in that case is a new project w/ more tough and localized design. As long as it can offer the all the same core services as the XS, I'm game, as dextrose is where we want to go anyway. work on a single interface to integrate well into existing networks. Installation is via USB and fully scriptable via kickstart files. With the usb race fixed with a revised anaconda rpm [1] headless in now possible, you get need to tweak the kickstart files to your liking. The current XS is very monolithic and bureaucratic. It requires moderate sysadmin skills to install and maintain. Maintaining the presence service is cumbersome and impractical in our schools. The turnover of teachers and students is far too high to ensure that anything gets managed properly. We're looking to slim down the XS-AU such that we can have a simple collaboration server (which we currently call XS Lite) that is installable in a classroom as a drop-in appliance. ie, just having jabber server and somehow let students know where it is? Populating a single field in sugar control panel is trivial, OK class right click - My Settings - network - add needed info to the Server: field. click check. That can be a first day in class routine IMHO. is an ejabberd. btw, I'm planing to use Prosody instead of ejabberd. I have really bad experiance w/ ejabberd - on jabber.sugarlabs.org it eats too many resources for regular 10-30 online users. Prosody is slim and light app and it alsready works fine w/ sugar-0.88. Registration, Moodle, Squid, backups and so on are unnecessary. Each teacher can run their own server for their own class. Conveniently, this could easily run on an XO (XS-on-XO). in other workds there is no need in sugar specific stuff at all - just install jabber server from packages (maybe w/ sugar specific patches) and write its url on studensts' boxes. see above. As an offshoot of this you could turn this XO into an updates server quickly with the mini-server idea of mine. [3] Jerry 1. http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xs-au/wiki 2. http://download.laptop.org.au/XS/F11/XS-AU/bleeding/RPMS/ 3. http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/mini-server/wiki/Using ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] How to forward http requests from XO through XS to remote Proxy ?
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 12:42 +0300, AL-ASTAL, Ahmad wrote: Hi How to forward http requests from XO through XS to remote Proxy ? I used iptables command iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination PROXY-IP:PORT But it doesn't work. What is the output of sudo iptables -L You can capture the output by doing sudo iptables -L /tmp/iptables.txt and forwarding the file for further study. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pointers on USING a school server
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 20:09 +0930, Tom Daly wrote: G'Day all, I am working with a friend to setup a school server for a small OLPC deployment we have done in Timor Leste. I have the server running using David Leemings and OLPC Oceania's Guide to installing the pacific school server However what I was hoping was for some sort of users guide. The 2 things I am hoping to achieve with the school server are a) backup of the kids individual work from each XO (1.5) and Backup are automatic once the XO is registered with the schoolserver: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_Identity_Manager http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Blueprints:Datastore_Simple_Backup_and_Restore b) Distribution of a lot of XO (sugar + Linux) software from the server via wifi to each XO (to save using memory sticks) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-activity-server http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-rsync Hope this helps, Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] rpm installation via customization stick
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 20:00 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi Jerry, On Wed, May 04 2011, Jerry Vonau wrote: This there any interest in the ability to install rpms with a customization stick? I have a POC patch that does that with just a small patch to dracut's 30olpc-customization routine. There's interest, but it's more complicated than you think. As I understand it, customization sticks can be signed and run in secure mode because they perform no side-effects outside of /home. However, an RPM can have a %post section which lists commands to be run *as root* during the installation. So, offering the ability to install RPMs via signed customization stick is equivalent to letting anyone run any series of commands as root. How is different from using sudo rpm/yum? You still have to have trust in the rpms. There may be ways to mitigate this risk, such as refusing to run any %post scripts (some of which are necessary for proper function of packages). Working out what the safe set of actions a hostile RPM can perform on a system is a research project, as far as I know. I'd say just let the deployments sign their own kernel and initrd.img, OLPC doesn't have to offer the stick for public use. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] What rpm packages would you include for the XS?
Hello All: I have put together a running F11 based XS-server package. This soon to be released version has some room on the install iso after ditching the gnome rpms. There are 419 rpms with a total iso size of 500 MB, list at: http://dev.laptop.org.au/attachments/162/rpms.txt What would you like to see on the install iso that you would find useful? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] What rpm packages would you include for the XS?
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 17:56 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: I have put together a running F11 based XS-server package. This soon to Nice. What would you like to see on the install iso that you would find useful? Puppet wwwoffle opendns client m Hehe, I removed squid and dhcpd, as this was intended to support a single interface. I'll add those plus puppet, ddclient to the build. I'll d/l wwwoffle to a private repo, don't want to open up pungi to the whole atrpms repo. This build has none of the gnome rpms present, I can add those rpms back in to support upgrades from F9. All that is needed is a re-compile of the latest XS source rpms [1], would there be any interest in supporting that? A long as nothing touches xs-config this should be a straight forward upgrade, the networking layout isn't changing. I'd have to figure out the what rpms need to be present on the media and test it out. Martin: When I created the XS-server group definition for yum [2], I excluded xs-release and xs-config. This implies that 2 versions can share the same underling rpms but have different configurations of the underling services. Jerry [1] http://download.laptop.org.au/XS/F11/XS-AU/bleeding/RPMS/ [2] http://download.laptop.org.au/XS/F11/repo/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 15:34 +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 09:55:26PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 14:47 +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:38:07PM -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Both methods work within a session. In GNOME, I can connect to the hidden network. And, if I change back to Sugar, the connection is intact. Yes. NetworkManager still has knowledge of the hidden network connection request in memory, having been told about it by the GNOME nm-applet. (Restarting NetworkManager at this point causes the connection to drop and not be re-established.) Well sort of, if you restart MN in a terminal in GNOME, ... I was specifically talking about when the user has switched back to Sugar. That was the context. the connection is re-established, switch over to sugar the AP icon has the ESSID populated. This works if Available to all users was ticked as NM sees this as a system connection under root's control. Now open terminal in SUGAR and restart NM, now the ESSID is set to None. While un-ticked you will be prompted for the info, which is saved in connections.cfg. The difference might be that in GNOME you have gnome-keyring running while in SUGAR it's not. There is the question of who owns the connection while setup as an ifcfg file, root or olpc? I don't see where you are going with this, and I don't see how it is relevant to Gerald. So I'll try explaining things in the hope that our mutual cognitive disconnect will eventually show up. Some D-Bus service must provide the NetworkManagerSettings interface from which NetworkManager obtains the list of connections or a new connection. The interface specification shows this: http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/spec.html#org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings When GNOME is active, this is done by the panel applet. When Sugar is active, this is done by the Sugar shell, in the source file jarabe/model/network.py Upon restart, without a settings service, NetworkManager will not know about the user request to join the hidden network. This also happens on boot. Once Sugar is started, NetworkManager is informed (through the settings service in Sugar), of the user's request to connect. When I reboot, however, while the Wireless Connections UI (iin either GNOME or Sugar using nm) shows the connection properly, it does not actually connect to the hidden ssid. Yes, I agree. After reboot, NetworkManager is restarted, and therefore no longer knows about the hidden network connection request. Agreed, I'll look for how Connect to Hidden Wireless network runs its re-scan for the hidden network in the code. It doesn't do a wireless scan for hidden networks. It only offers a hidden network in the Connect to Hidden Wireless network if one was created by the user. If that network is deleted from the settings service using Edit Connections..., then Connect to Hidden Wireless network does not offer it. Tested. The ONBOOT setting doesn't appear to work either. On an un-hidden network it does, or at least loaded as the UI becomes usable. Why should it wait for the UI to become usable? That sounds like it is waiting for the settings service to register with D-Bus. Therefore it is not using ifcfg as such. That is part of the problem, ifcfg-rh plugin, nm-applet knows how to use the info while sugar does not. What is needed it to use NM keyfile plugin so there is a common method of storing system level info between sugar and gnome. Here is what I did, get into gnome, stop the NM service, edit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf using keyfile in place of ifcfg-rh, restart NM. Now go configure your hidden network ticking both of the boxes. That will create system level config file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/name that will be used by NM upon boot. Reboot back into gnome, the settings should stick bringing the network up and not ask for a password. Switch over sugar, the icon for the AP should be connected. Reboot, while in sugar, when sugar returns you should be auto connected to your hidden network. Gerald, does your AP have any security or is it just hidden? For what it is worth, my test AP on which ONBOOT did not work, has no security, it is just hidden. I agree with Gerald, the issue is now one of persistence. Think we should ditch the ifcfg-rh plug-in in favor of using NM native system support. This would mean tweeking network.py to write out the needed NM config file. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 14:47 +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:38:07PM -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Both methods work within a session. In GNOME, I can connect to the hidden network. And, if I change back to Sugar, the connection is intact. Yes. NetworkManager still has knowledge of the hidden network connection request in memory, having been told about it by the GNOME nm-applet. (Restarting NetworkManager at this point causes the connection to drop and not be re-established.) Well sort of, if you restart MN in a terminal in GNOME, the connection is re-established, switch over to sugar the AP icon has the ESSID populated. This works if Available to all users was ticked as NM sees this as a system connection under root's control. Now open terminal in SUGAR and restart NM, now the ESSID is set to None. While un-ticked you will be prompted for the info, which is saved in connections.cfg. The difference might be that in GNOME you have gnome-keyring running while in SUGAR it's not. There is the question of who owns the connection while setup as an ifcfg file, root or olpc? When I reboot, however, while the Wireless Connections UI (iin either GNOME or Sugar using nm) shows the connection properly, it does not actually connect to the hidden ssid. Yes, I agree. After reboot, NetworkManager is restarted, and therefore no longer knows about the hidden network connection request. Agreed, I'll look for how Connect to Hidden Wireless network runs its re-scan for the hidden network in the code. The ONBOOT setting doesn't appear to work either. On an un-hidden network it does, or at least loaded as the UI becomes usable. Gerald, does your AP have any security or is it just hidden? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Question on number of iptables rules
On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 08:24 -0700, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: My test XS at home has a FQDN and is open to the outside. Therefore this is probably a pretty rare issue in XS land, but I thought I'd ask. In general, I'd keep it closed. It's not designed as a full internet server. Getting them into /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/iptables-xs is easy enough. I pasted the IP data into a file named banned_ips.txt and ran this little script: #!/bin/bash for i in $( banned_ips.txt); do iptables -A INPUT -s $i -j DROP done You could do the same from the init script even. Here's my question - is the XS networking going to get wonky with 894 extra iptables rules? Short answer - no. Slightly longer: no, but if the list grows and starts to cost you in network perf, might be worth looking at ipset http://www.netfilter.org/projects/ipset/index.html cheers, Not easy with Fedora, you need to patch the kernel and iptables to get ipsets. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=196234 Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 15:15 -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: I am trying to connect XOs in a school which as a wireless network with a hidden SSID. Additionally, the school requires proxy settings to establish internet connections. Can someone help me with this? Can you tell us what os version is installed on the XOs? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 09:11 -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Jerry, I am not sure. It is whatever version they were shipped with. They are XO 1.5s, and they arrived in October. I am not where they are, so I can't check the version. I'd upgrade the os to the latest version (os860) before you try configuring anything on the XO. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] xs-activity-server dotted versions
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 17:55 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Yea thanks, just was looking at the git repo. Having 2 versions of the activity still rendered showing as link to the older version under the latest version, thought that was enough. I don't fully understand. With my latest commit rpm on f9, do you get the desired behaviour? I have not tested your rpm yet. With the one line change I got the attached webpage source. The acid test would be to have more than the KEEP_OLD_VERSIONS around to see if the pruning is done correctly. I'll report back in a bit. Jerry html body h1 id=olpc-activity-group-nameLocally available activities/h1 p id=olpc-activity-group-descThese activities are stored on the school server./p div class=olpc-activity-info h2Backup/h2 ul liIdentifier: span class=olpc-activity-idorg.sugarlabs.Backup/span/li liVersion: span class=olpc-activity-version4/span/li liURL: span class=olpc-activity-urla href=backup-4.xobackup-4.xo/a/span/li li style=display: noneOlder versions: /li /ul /div div class=olpc-activity-info h2Browse/h2 ul liIdentifier: span class=olpc-activity-idorg.laptop.WebActivity/span/li liVersion: span class=olpc-activity-version108.4/span/li liURL: span class=olpc-activity-urla href=Browse-108.4.xoBrowse-108.4.xo/a/span/li li style=display: inlineOlder versions: a href=Browse-108.2.xo108.2/a/li /ul /div div class=olpc-activity-info h2IRC/h2 ul liIdentifier: span class=olpc-activity-idorg.sugarlabs.IRC/span/li liVersion: span class=olpc-activity-version8/span/li liURL: span class=olpc-activity-urla href=irc-8.xoirc-8.xo/a/span/li li style=display: noneOlder versions: /li /ul /div div class=olpc-activity-info h2Restore/h2 ul liIdentifier: span class=olpc-activity-idorg.sugarlabs.Restore/span/li liVersion: span class=olpc-activity-version3/span/li liURL: span class=olpc-activity-urla href=restore-3.xorestore-3.xo/a/span/li li style=display: noneOlder versions: /li /ul /div /body /html ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] The old xs-livecd is the new olpc-xs-builder
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 17:24 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: While not as modular and elegant as olpc-os-builder, we do have a collection of tools and configs that, operated correctly, build XS isos for installation. This can be useful to prepare a custom auto-intalling iso with preconfigured settings. http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder The current scripts (just committed) are based on pungi and a comps file. This is _trivial_ compared to the overcomplicated mess we had before. It wasn't that bad. Perhaps it's experience in wrestling with revisor and earlier versions of pungi. Maybe it's Jerry's better-way-to-do-it recommendations that have finally reached an active neuron in my skull. Yea, the comps file is far easier to play with. The key trick is splitting the Pungi process; stop it before it makes the ISO -- edit/overwrite the bits we want, and then make the ISO. See http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder/commit/?id=9093a4c380d0394c957f547c593a28db68f5b512 Better take upgradeany out of the install part of the isolinux.cfg file. The package definition on both ks files is going to get slimmed down to @OLPC-XS methinks. Jerry, - is there anything else we should whack before ISOing the ISO? I just reviewed the mkslim script but it's unclear to me what was getting cut out. I was just using stage2/install.img file and leaving the rest. - is there anything we want to include so that turning that ISO into a bootable/installable USB is easier? I was using --driveorder=sda,sdb with F9, that seemed to fix the issue, there might of been some confusion on which mbr to write to. It can't be the boot drive that started the install. When playing with F11 I left the auto partitioning out. cheers, m I'll give it a spin on the weekend, Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS-0.7 plans -- your thoughts please...
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 14:29 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: Ay ay ay! This last 12 months have been frantic, as I've ended up biting off a ton more than common sense would recommend to chew. And then chewing, slowly, awkwardly. Good things have come out of the hard work of this year, but the XS has been delayed. One good piece of news is that I've helped deploy more XSs in the field, both in person and through this list. So I think we have good feedback on what to streamline and make easier. And I have a window of time to hack on it. So... the plan is roughly the same as it was in http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2009-October/004139.html - except that I'll start drafting the build on top of F14. Anaconda will not automatically find the old install if its older than release-2, you will need to pass upgradeany at the boot prompt if you go with F14. My actual plan is to have the packages for RHEL6 / CentOS6, which will give us a more stable platform. With less churn, I get to spend more of my limited time on interesting work :-) So your going to port to F14 then RHEL6/CentOS6 and maintain the rpms for all three? So -- going back on the traffic we've see in the last 24 months, what would you highlight? What have people asked for (that wasn't easy/trivial/possible)? What problems have we heard that were hard to diagnose...? Think the biggest issue I've seen is trying to configure an XS for a pre-existing lan using a single interface. The stock network layout is a bit much for a novice, and can get confusing quickly. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS-0.7 plans -- your thoughts please...
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 20:28 +, Daniel Drake wrote: On 18 January 2011 19:29, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: So -- going back on the traffic we've see in the last 24 months, what would you highlight? What have people asked for (that wasn't easy/trivial/possible)? What problems have we heard that were hard to diagnose...? Some items that spring to mind: 1. activity-server support for dotted activities That sucks the dotted versions don't display when you regenerate the html page. Is there a patch I can test by any chance? 2. can't register if your name includes a : 3. automatic olpc-update via OATS (code was posted, but we never finished deciding exactly how to integrate it) add: xs-rsync support for XO-1.5 with the change to lzma Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] IP Address Pools for XOs, known clients, and unknown clients on XS 0.6
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 10:03 -0600, Anna wrote: I like to leave the AP open on my test XS 0.6 at home, but ran into an issue with that yesterday. I noticed the lights on my router blinking like crazy, so I did a live tail on the squid access log to see what was going on. tail -f /var/log/squid/access.log snip And because I'm ticked off, and inspired by http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html, it's time for some fun with iptables. In /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/iptables-xs.in I add a couple of lines like so: So I'm not the only one who likes fun with iptables, wish I could see the expression on their face when I tried something like that. *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A PREROUTING -s 172.18.124.0/24 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 205.196.209.62 @@SQUID@@ -A POSTROUTING -o @@WAN@@ -j MASQUERADE COMMIT *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A FORWARD -s 172.18.124.0/24 -p tcp --dport 443 -j DROP This should take care of the rest of the outgoing connections.. change to: -A FORWARD -s 172.18.124.0/24 -p tcp ! --dport 80 -j DROP add: -A FORWARD -s 172.18.124.0/24 -j DROP COMMIT Restart dhcpd and iptables: service dhcpd restart service iptables restart Now all unknown clients will have http traffic redirected to http://kittenwar.com and their https traffic is dropped. Obviously this isn't a deterrent to someone who can use an ssh proxy for browsing, and it doesn't block traffic on other ports or protocols, but most of my neighbors aren't of the networking savvy sort (particularly the grotesque rednecks) and will likely conclude this darn internet ain't workin' no more. If I lived near MIT, this would not be an acceptable solution. But I'm not terribly concerned many folks around here know much about packet sniffing or MAC spoofing. His machine might be owned/spam-bot... Try the trivial change above. When guests come over and want to look at something other than pictures of kittens, all I have to do is add the MAC to the list of known clients, restart dhcpd, and tell them to renew their IP. At the very least, now I know how to keep XOs and non-XO clients on different IP ranges. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Cloning and hardware addresses
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 20:38 +1100, David Leeming wrote: I have been cloning a “master” XS hard drive onto a number of copies, to be used in different computers (of the exact same type). I used the following simple way of cloning dd bs=8192 if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb where sda is the master and sdb is connected via USB. This done using a live CD to boot it up. The clones work fine in the same PC as was used with the master. However, on booting a cloned HDD in another machine it does not detect the NICs (the computer has 2). I assume I have to delete the “HWADDR=” line somewhere, for both eth0 and eth1. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules Delete the lines that refer to all the eth devices and reboot Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Jabber presence under NAT named under DMZ issues
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 21:19 -0500, Anna wrote: Eventually, after many hours of troubleshooting, I put the XSXO into the DMZ in my router and the presence service quit resetting us every hour. Of course, I deleted /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0-local once I set XSXO in the DMZ. I edited /etc/hosts for: 67.195.160.76schoolserver.random.net random.net Don't think you want to have the router's external address in the XSXO's hosts file. I'd stick with localhost here. I put the OpenDNS IPs in named-xs.conf.in and then make -f xs-config.make named-xs.conf Think that is prior to 0.6.0 try domain_config I actually use OpenDNS DNS IPs in my router instead of my ISP's DNS IPs. Should be no problem with that. Here's /var/named-xs/school.external.zone.db @ in soa localhost. root 1 3H 15M 1W 1D ns localhost. schoolserverINA67.195.160.76 schoolINCNAMEschoolserver wwwINCNAMEschoolserver ntpINCNAME schoolserver timeINCNAMEschoolserver presenceINCNAMEschoolserver xsINCNAMEschoolserver libraryINCNAMEschoolserver conference.schoolserverINCNAMEschoolserver But then named never comes back up: Starting named: Error in named configuration: zone localdomain/IN: loaded serial 42 zone localhost/IN: loaded serial 42 zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 1997022700 zone 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa/IN: loaded serial 1997022700 zone 255.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 42 zone 0.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 42 dns_rdata_fromtext: school.internal.zone.db:1: near 'root': bad name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:2: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:4: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:4: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:5: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:5: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:6: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:6: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:7: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:7: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:8: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:8: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:9: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:9: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:10: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:10: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:11: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:11: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:13: schoolserve...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:13: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:14: schoo...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:14: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:15: ww...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:15: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:16: nt...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:16: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:17: tim...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:17: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:18: presenc...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:18: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:19: x...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:19: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:20: librar...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:20: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:22: conference.schoolserve...@\@BASEDNSNAME\@ \@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:22: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:29: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:32: no TTL specified; zone rejected zone \...@\@basednsna...@\@/IN: loading from master file school.internal.zone.db failed: bad name (check-names) localhost_resolver/@@BASEDNSNAME@@/in: bad name (check-names) dns_rdata_fromtext: school.internal.zone.db:1: near 'root': bad name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:2: no TTL specified; zone rejected school.internal.zone.db:4: schoolserver...@\@basednsna...@\@: bad owner name (check-names) school.internal.zone.db:4: no TTL specified; zone rejected
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 19:21 +1100, David Leeming wrote: OK thanks Jerry. I have decided to test this out on a safe replicated environment rather than risk breaking something, as I'd then not be able to fix it in the short time left on site. You gave me the second option, for the few fixed Windows PCs that will be involved in the initial part of this project, on those I will edit the hosts file. I will be back here next month and will have then bring a second machine with me to br about with at no risk! Many thanks, you've really been a tremendous help, also Anna and other, cheers David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link David: If you want to use a single interface XS and can boot from USB, then I suggest that you look at using what I wrote for olpc-au. The iso from: http://download.laptop.org.au/XS/F9/XS-AU/iso/ has all the F9 updates and XS-updates rolled up in it. What make the single interface XS is the kickstart files that are provided when you use (tested on F12): http://download.laptop.org.au/XS/F9/XS-AU/tools/mkusbinstall-F12forXSAU mkusbinstall-F12forXSAU --reset-mbr --getkickstart isopath usbstick \ device That will setup the flashdisk as an installer, grab the kickstart files that customize the XS to a single interface version. You then just have to use Sridhar's mini-howto, but use mkusbinstall-f12forXSAU as above. You can skip copying the kickstart files and start at 2. open local.cfg in a text editor. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2010-May/004926.html Think that might be easier, it works out of the box. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:35 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Hi Jerry That sorted it out - almost... I added the gateway and the server can now ping through the router. I added port forwarding for HTTP and success partially Good that's progress. From the outside I can enter the router WAN IP (which is now 192.168.0.210) and mixed results... http://192.168.0.210 gives the Firefox error Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at schoolserver.patukae.org (showing that it has found something at least). Same with http://192.168.0.210/moodle/ However, the MediaWiki installed on the XS is fine (http://192.168.0.210/wiki is fully accessible). How much tinkering did you have to do installing the wiki? I'm wondering which file is supplying the config info for apache.. The difference is that moodle lives in /var/www/moodle but the wiki lives in /var/www/html/wiki Would be sincerely grateful for the last piece in the puzzle so would all the teachers here, as this firefighting is going on in parallel with the XS/wiki deployment! is that the xs-httpd.conf file or your own version that you posted? from your posted httpd.conf: #Listen 12.34.56.78:80 Listen 80 Listen 172.18.0.88:80 don't change that to be the gateway, change that back to: Listen 172.18.0.1:80 moodle and friends expect to find schoolserver resolving to 172.18.0.1 on the XS, while wiki doesn't really care.. don't fight that... Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 05:43 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:35 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Hi Jerry That sorted it out - almost... I added the gateway and the server can now ping through the router. I added port forwarding for HTTP and success partially Good that's progress. From the outside I can enter the router WAN IP (which is now 192.168.0.210) and mixed results... http://192.168.0.210 gives the Firefox error Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at schoolserver.patukae.org (showing that it has found something at least). Same with http://192.168.0.210/moodle/ Shoot, the client can't resolve the name, add to /etc/hosts: 192.168.0.210 schoolserver.patukae.org schoolserver Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 09:00 +1100, David Leeming wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 05:43 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:35 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Hi Jerry That sorted it out - almost... I added the gateway and the server can now ping through the router. I added port forwarding for HTTP and success partially Good that's progress. From the outside I can enter the router WAN IP (which is now 192.168.0.210) and mixed results... http://192.168.0.210 gives the Firefox error Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at schoolserver.patukae.org (showing that it has found something at least). Same with http://192.168.0.210/moodle/ Shoot, the client can't resolve the name, add to /etc/hosts: 192.168.0.210 schoolserver.patukae.org schoolserver Jerry That needs to be on the client PC/XOs that are on the 192.168.0.XXX lan, those clients can't resolve schoolserver.patukae.org. What dns server are the 192.168.0.XXX clients pointed too? Need to know where they're pointed too can you do a cat /etc/resolv.conf I'm going to say either your isp's servers, or the ADSL modem is caching the requests. Is this modem configurable? That would open up many more options. You can add an entry there for schoolserver.patukae.org pointing to 192.168.0.210, that would fix up the issue cleanly, else your forced to use the hosts file. Tried but no different. I don't think the mediawiki installation has changed anything fundamental with the networking. No, not likely. The server functions normally when XOs and PCs connect wirelessly or wired to the eth1. That is because they can resolve schoolserver correctly, while the clients on 192.168.0.xxx are failing to resolve schoolserver.patukae.org I was wondering if the public folders part might be an issue... because the only difference I can think between the wiki and moodle is that Moodle exists at /var/www/moodle/ but the wiki at /var/www/html/wiki/ (i.e. one level down). Please note these observations: These results I get when browsing with a PC on the external network 1.http://192.168.0.210/wiki fully accessible! 2.http://192.168.0.210 gives “Server not found, Firefox can’t find the server at schoolserver.patukae.org” 3.http://192.168.0.210/moodle gives same as (2) above 4.http://192.168.0.210/gibberish gives a prompt apache error the URL /gibberish not found. Thus it does find something (i.e. compare with 2 and 3). My /etc/hosts file now 127.0.0.1 schoolserver.@@BASEDNSNAME@@ localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 192.168.0.210 schoolserver.patukae.org schoolserver Stop, right there, don't add 192.168.0.210 to the XS hosts file, that needs to be on the *clients* only. I'm curious why @@BASEDNSNAME@@ is present, you have run domain_config patukae.org right? I'm going to say yes as the client that are on 172.18.96.XXX are ok. Is this the hosts.in file? Route: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 172.18.16.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 mshbond0 172.18.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 lanbond0 172.18.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 lanbond0 172.18.14.0 * 255.255.254.0 U 0 00 mshbond2 172.18.12.0 * 255.255.254.0 U 0 00 mshbond1 172.18.10.0 * 255.255.254.0 U 0 00 mshbond0 172.18.64.0 172.18.1.7 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.72.0 172.18.1.8 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.8.0 172.18.1.1 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.16.0 172.18.1.1 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.24.0 172.18.1.2 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.32.0 172.18.1.3 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.40.0 172.18.1.4 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.48.0 172.18.1.5 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.56.0 172.18.1.6 255.255.248.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 172.18.96.0 * 255.255.224.0 U 0 00 lanbond0 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 0 00 mshbond2 default 172.18.0.88 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 lanbond0 Good, that's fixed.. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:35 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Sorry forgot to reply-all... On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 19:21 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 10:43 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Jerry, The computers wishing to access the server are Windows laptops that get their DNS from the ISP (actually the gateway router points to Google DNS). This gateway router is handing out the dhcp addresses and the nameserver is pointing to google's dns servers? That would be the place to hijack the dns for schoolserver, do you have access to this router? Is this the second linksys that you refer to below? On one of these Windows boxes can you add an entries to winpath\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file: 192.168.0.210 schoolserver 192.168.0.210 schoolserver.patukae.org and then test with ping: ping schoolserver ping schoolserver.patukae.org If that is successful, you should be able to see moodle in the browser. The 192.168.0.0/24 network is actually a schoolnet linking several village schools with Wi-Fi bridges and access points, and it has Internet gateway (VSAT). We want all those schools to access the XS moodle and my added wiki. QUESTION: Yes, I can access the gateway router (it is also a Linksys WRT54G2). Would you know how to add the enter pointing schoolserver.patukae.org to 192.168.0.210, where (in the router admin) would I add that entry? It is not obvious to me, sorry... Give me a bit on that one, I have to check. Just so were looking at the same thing, Figure 6-13 on: http://www.scribd.com/doc/21144997/Linksys-WRT54G-router-manual I don't see a way of adding any entries, just boxes in the dhcp part for the upstream static dns servers, this info is being passed to the clients, at a windows cmd prompt, what does ipconfig /all show? What you need is a nameserver on 192.168.0.XXX to handle the name resolution. Think I can rig that up with just the XS, give me a bit. Jerry The first order of business would be to have named use the forwarders that are configured in the linksys, because the XS can't resolve anything outside of its own domain. You can ping google's ip address but google.com will fail. You need use these directions to add them, you can skip the service named restart part: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=XS_Techniques_and_Configurationsection=15#Use_ISP-provided_DNS_servers Next edit /var/named-xs/school.external.zone.db changing 18.85.46.29 to be, in your case, 192.168.0.210 Now restart named: service named restart You should now be able to ping from the XS(and the client XOs as well if you have iptables enabled) to anywhere on the web. Don't go any farther unless this works. Ensure that the linksys that is between the XS and the main router is acting as a DMZ host for the schoolserver or ensure that both port 80 tcp and port 53 tcp/udp are forwarded to the XS. Boot your Ubuntu Live CD and edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, change the nameserver to be 192.168.0.210 now the ping test: ping schoolserver.patukae.org ping schoolserver Try out moodle. Don't go any farther unless this works. On the main router, in the dhcp config page move the other ip addresses down to the 2 3 slots and fill in the first slot to be 192.168.0.210 and save the changes. The clients will pick up the changes as their dhcp leases expire, or you can do ipconfig /release, ipconfig /renew to force the change quicker. We're now handing out the linksys' ip address as the first nameserver to be used, where it will be forwarded to the XS to handle. This should result is less traffic up the isp's pipe as the XS will cache dns requests made to it. The second third entries on this linksys would be just backup for if the first nameserver(the XS)failed to resolve. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 18:13 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 08:55 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Still no luck here. What it boils down to, is that when placing the XS (eth1 - LAN) behind a router with NAT, in order to allow the XS web service to be visible on the external WAN side of the router, what are the required LAN IP settings including netmask and firewall settings, including port forwarding or DMZ Host or other. Anna, you seem to have been able to do that but I can’t replicate without more info on your router/firewall settings. I have tried everything I can think of and the XS is not visible from the external network. Only need to be able to see Moodle, etc, (not interested in registering XOs on the external network) David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link P.O.Box 652 Honiara, Solomon Islands +677 7476396 (m) +677 24419 (h) www.leeming-consulting.com From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of David Leeming Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:38 a.m. To: 'Anna' Cc: 'XS Devel' Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network Anna, What you describe below is what I am trying to do (see the net diagram in my other email). I only want apache/Moodle/wiki to be available to the external network (your “regular LAN”). You’ll see that I have a simple WRT54G router bridging but no matter what I try, I can’t see the apache service through the router. Can you say what Wan and LAN settings you used for your router? I used WAN – fixed 192.168.1.88 / 255.255.255.0 LAN – fixed 172.18.0.88 / 255.255.255.0 Port 80 forwarded from WAN to 172.18.0.1 (or DMZ host with 171.18.0.1) In this set up: If I try to ping from the XS to 172.18.0.88 it is OK, if I try to 192.168.0.88 it says network unreachable. You have a single interface in use, in order for the XS to see past anything other than what routes that are present(these are local to the lan), what your missing is the default gateway. But if I use a PC hooked up on the eth1 network, with fixed IP 172.18.0.89 / 255.255.255.0 (for example) I can ping the WAN address and beyond. This is what leads me to think it needs one extra step with route, or it may be something to do with the WRT LAN setting and XS having different netmasks. You can see I am reaching at straws a little L No, you need to have a default gateway present, how are you configuring 172.18.0.88 on the XS? Jerry OK, I have that backwards your running the XS as is and you have added the linksys with the ip address 172.18.0.88. The linksys is providing the route to 192.168... The XS can't respond to anything from 192.168... as there is no route back to 192.168. You can either add a route to 192.168... via 172.18.0.88, or add 172.18.0.88 as the default gateway, on the XS. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:35 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Hi thanks jerry, Almost there, just need clarification... On the router, what should I use for the LAN network, like this or different? 172.18.0.88 255.255.255.0 (is that correct? It means the network does not include the higher ranges 172.18.96.xxx etc) That should work, then only the XS has a direct route, while the XOs on 172.18.96.xxx don't. Should the router firewall settings be virtual server port 80 to 172.18.0.1??? or 172.18.???.??? What is the main IP address of the XS, I thought is was 172.18.0.1 use 172.18.0.1 as the target of the port forwarding, that should work once the default route is set as below. To add a route on the XS, do you mean (and what are the ??/): route add default gw 172.18.0.88 netmask 255.255.???.??? landbond0??? Yea that is the idea, but you would need to re-add that upon reboots. Lets try to get this to auto configure, edit ifcfg-lanbond0:2 from: if [ $XS_SERVER_NUM = 1 ] ;then ONBOOT=yes IPADDR=$XS_LANBOND_MAINXS_IPADDR NETMASK=255.255.255.0 BOOTPROTO=static #BONDING_OPTS= IPV6INIT=no else To be: if [ $XS_SERVER_NUM = 1 ] ;then ONBOOT=yes IPADDR=$XS_LANBOND_MAINXS_IPADDR NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=172.18.0.88 BOOTPROTO=static #BONDING_OPTS= IPV6INIT=no else That should create the default route via 172.18.0.88, when the network comes up. restart the network service and retest service network restart ping 172.18.0.88 ping 192.168.1.88 This that fails, can you capture the output of: ip route ls Jerry David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link -Original Message- From: Jerry Vonau [mailto:jvo...@shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, 1 November 2010 10:41 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: 'XS Devel' Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 18:13 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 08:55 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Still no luck here. What it boils down to, is that when placing the XS (eth1 - LAN) behind a router with NAT, in order to allow the XS web service to be visible on the external WAN side of the router, what are the required LAN IP settings including netmask and firewall settings, including port forwarding or DMZ Host or other. Anna, you seem to have been able to do that but I can’t replicate without more info on your router/firewall settings. I have tried everything I can think of and the XS is not visible from the external network. Only need to be able to see Moodle, etc, (not interested in registering XOs on the external network) David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link P.O.Box 652 Honiara, Solomon Islands +677 7476396 (m) +677 24419 (h) www.leeming-consulting.com From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of David Leeming Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:38 a.m. To: 'Anna' Cc: 'XS Devel' Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Bridging XS to another network Anna, What you describe below is what I am trying to do (see the net diagram in my other email). I only want apache/Moodle/wiki to be available to the external network (your “regular LAN”). You’ll see that I have a simple WRT54G router bridging but no matter what I try, I can’t see the apache service through the router. Can you say what Wan and LAN settings you used for your router? I used WAN – fixed 192.168.1.88 / 255.255.255.0 LAN – fixed 172.18.0.88 / 255.255.255.0 Port 80 forwarded from WAN to 172.18.0.1 (or DMZ host with 171.18.0.1) In this set up: If I try to ping from the XS to 172.18.0.88 it is OK, if I try to 192.168.0.88 it says network unreachable. You have a single interface in use, in order for the XS to see past anything other than what routes that are present(these are local to the lan), what your missing is the default gateway. But if I use a PC hooked up on the eth1 network, with fixed IP 172.18.0.89 / 255.255.255.0 (for example) I can ping the WAN address and beyond. This is what leads me to think it needs one extra step with route, or it may be something to do with the WRT LAN setting and XS having different netmasks. You can see I am reaching at straws a little L No, you need to have a default gateway present, how are you configuring 172.18.0.88 on the XS? Jerry OK, I have that backwards your running the XS as is and you have added the linksys with the ip address 172.18.0.88. The linksys is providing the route to 192.168... The XS can't respond to anything from 192.168... as there is no route back to 192.168. You can either add a route to 192.168... via 172.18.0.88, or add 172.18.0.88 as the default gateway, on the XS. Jerry
Re: [Server-devel] How to configure XS with only one Ethernet port
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 16:26 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Thanks Jerry Would that leave the machine with all the normal services running on that single Ethernet port, and otherwise function exactly as the eth1 network on a machine with two NICs? I guess I'll find out soon enough... Yes, eth1 then becomes part of lanbond0 friends My second question, is if there are any instructions on setting up a second interface using a USB Ethernet adapter. Depends on what the kernel ends up calling the device, you may have to edit /etc/sysconfig/xs_wan_device to reflect that your new device has the network gateway, not eth0. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] How to configure XS with only one Ethernet port
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 15:07 +1100, David Leeming wrote: Just received a small mini PC machine for an application at last minute, to my horror only one Ethernet port not two as specified. In this location WAN not needed (for the time being) as no Internet access. Can I configure it to work with the single port working normally as the LAN (i.e. functioning as the eth1 interface in default case)? If all you need to do is rename eth0 to eth1 just run as root: xs-swapnics and then reboot. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
