Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Enthusiasm for a Centos School Server is wonderful
For the Sugar Network project we used Selenium UI testing. Basically you can record a standard interaction with a Firefox plugin [1]. This in turn produces scripts that can be used in a server with an embedded firefox browser. At the time, I integrated this with the Jenkins continuous integration system. I recomend Selenium for semi-automated testing, that is, from your browser. It helps to automate testing an entire workflow or use case, for instance. Helps to work in a more agile fashion. The automated bit took a while to set up but did warn us early when something broke. It would run all the tests for every git commit. Hope it helps, Sebastian [1] http://docs.seleniumhq.org/projects/ide/ El 29/03/15 a las 11:58, Adam Holt escibió: On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:45 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com mailto:georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: I woke up thinking that a little time spent on testing automation might be appropriate. And I'm searching for ideas. Tony presents a wrinkle I had not thought of: how to automate clicking on GUI buttons. I can extend Tim's test script, such that it queries the target for server mode(appliance, lan-contoller,gateway) and only tests the functions that are appropriate. Each machine, or at least software install, can be assigned a UUID. The test script could output a text file in sqlite format, as well as to the screen. One of the fields in the sqlite database could store the /etc/xsce/xsce.ini file, or we could parse that file, and populate individual fields, as appropriate. Sqlite is a format that is recognized by couchdb, and I think couchdb can roll up to the cloud easily. Tim's cmdsrv interface seems to lend itself to automated testing pretty well -- in that a script can send events to the cmdsrv.socket, just like the GUI does. I don't know JavaScript and DOM well enough. Are there ways that JS can click buttons in the proper sequence to test arbitrary GUI applications? I liked the laptop.org http://laptop.org page we had which had a matrix of services on one axis, and platforms on the other axis. The matrix started out untested (yellow), and turned green or red based upon test results. Specifically, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.4/Testing/Results Are there any other ideas? Am cc'ing server-devel in case others can recommend? On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com mailto:t...@timmoody.com wrote: George, I'm guessing that the 'it' in 'it doesn't work' is the install, which uses the HaitiOS script and is therefore dependent on a particular OS and machine. The tests themselves should work on other XOs and to a lesser extent in other environments, except for the XO specific tests like idmgr and ds-backup that run as olpc. I have added instructions for manually installing to the README. Tony, a number of these tests connect to a particular url on the server and look for a known string in the result. Probably your buttons could be tested this way. I'm sure there is a great deal more that needs to be added, but I find that this test runs in about 15 seconds and tells me if one of the things it knows about didn't get installed or isn't running. Anyone can feel free to add more tests. -Original Message- From: unleashk...@googlegroups.com mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com [mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Anderson Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:33 PM To: unleashk...@googlegroups.com mailto:unleashk...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [UKids] Enthusiasm for a Centos School Server is wonderful Hi, George Automating tests for the school server would be wonderful but is clearly a major project. Currently I test manually by clicking all the buttons to see that I get the right response. Luckily, I don't have to deal with the many network environments that XSCE is attempting to support so that should make it simpler. However, the current content has 26 major buttons to be tested. Some of these (e.g. Gutenberg search) would require a succession of urls to get to the final deliverable. I have also added a learning management and library capability that would require test retrievals of database records (another 5 major buttons). Finally, I would need to have a test of the datastore backup/restore, collection of results of activities into the db. So, the manual tests are easy but it is hard to make sure you have completely tested
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points
Back then, I was dogfooding Sugar 0.94 because I had to deploy it to the children of Peru. Also, you can image, I had various XOs around. In my vision, Sugar should grow to be a useful desktop for a person of any age who likes to learn with simplicity, collaboration and reflection. If it's not too much to ask, I'd like it stunning as well. That would be a topic for IAEP [Design] tag I guess. :-) Regards, Sebastian El 16/03/15 a las 21:36, James Cameron escibió: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other laptops connecting to it. Has sugar addressed http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3708? Why would you use Sugar? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points
El 16/03/15 a las 22:31, James Cameron escibió: Why would Google and the carriers want to have people bypass them? It makes no business sense. ;-) Oh very timely with news about this beauty here: https://github.com/matiasinsaurralde/facebook-tunnel It's a tunnel for Internet traffic thru sponsored facebook chat, bypassing the atrocious net-neutrality monster that is Zuckerberg's Internet.Org initiative. Could this perhaps ever be ported into an XO activity :-) Pair it with hotspot mode and voilá, user liberation. I bet they block it before a few months or less if it becomes easy to use. Regards, Sebastian ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points
Hi Adam, If I remember correctly, the /libertas /driver that is needed (for the xo1 at least), in contrast to its name, actually is not completely free, I don't remember if because of some firmware blobs. Therefore, it was difficult or impossible for a driver programmer to set the device to monitor mode required to host a hotspot. Not my area of expertise, though. Hopefully i'm wrong. When doing a laptop project (or an education project that involves laptops), next time, hopefully every component will respect user's freedoms https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom. From looking at the consumer market, it will take a while. Regards, Sebastian El 16/03/15 a las 21:06, Adam Holt escibió: Can someone remind me the reason that XO laptops (if I'm remembering correctly) cannot use their antennae/ears as a self-contained WiFi AP server? (e.g. for tiny community/village libraries in very offline developing countries. A very typical situation being: local librarian wants to use existing XO hardware, leaving a humble knowledge hotspot unpassworded and wide open to diverse WiFi devices, in the style of Internet-in-a-Box). Is it a HW and/or SW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HostAP) that prevents this, out of curiosity? -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points
Looking at the page that I linked, I think actually this product would make it feasible, hopefully without too much fuss. I guess the drivers should come preinstalled with the XO, not sure. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-w-external-antenna-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usbl It does respect your freedom, in any case. I do think the XO would be an excellent option for otherwise low energy server with an integrated UPS, but it's not a viable server platform for running even light multi-user server apps. However, this might be just perfect (or enough) for smaller remote schools. Regards El 16/03/15 a las 21:23, James Cameron escibió: There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other laptops connecting to it. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Rpi2 now available, and loads current XSCE master
While we were not looking: Windows 10 para Raspberry Pi 2 http://dev.windows.com/es-es/featured/raspberrypi2support El 26/02/15 a las 13:00, George Hunt escibió: Just got my second rpi, and discovered that they both failed until I used a more robust USB to micro USB power cable. It's pretty fast, for just 3watts, including the USB wifi dongle. To get the full install on fc21, I needed to comment out ajenti at /opt/schoolserver/xsce/roles/8-tools/meta/main.yml The base software, with rpi loader and kernel, is available at http://www.digitaldreamtime.co.uk/images/Fidora/21/ (based on a minumal 173MB download) There's a rtc that mounts on the accessory connectors of the rpi at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MCNMR8G I'm still fiddling to get a USB wifi driver, and there's still lots of testing. But completing the install process is significant in itself. Once I get it all tested, I'll post an image. I'll be about 2GB in size. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] UEFI workaround?
If at all possible, the first thing to do is disable secure uefi boot. The only distro that I've found has out of the box support for secure boot is the Ubuntu family. Maybe there are others. Some firmwares don't support legacy boot anymore, so even unsecured, they need to boot using UEFI (make sure you install the proper bootloader). I've succeeded with Archlinux, and had to learn all about EFI booting. I recommend this step to Tony, then he can apply the knowledge to fedora. They have pretty good docs: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI It's possible to install a fedora chroot under any system, but it's not ideal. Governments and deployments should really know better than buying crippled hardware. Perhaps this is an area where this community could produce formal recommendations that we would distribute to the people on charge of buying the hardware. It should really be a policy and even law. -- Sebastian Silva icarito #sugar #somosazucar (freenode IRC) Somos Azúcar - Fuente Libre - Sugar Labs Las maestras y los maestros democráticos intervenimos en el mundo a través del cultivo de la curiosidad - P.Freire El vie, 31 de oct 2014 a las 11:50 AM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org escribió: Tony Anderson’s is leaving to Africa in 6 days, assisting many different school server deployments, and needs help getting around secure BIOS/firmware UEFI on the following platforms: - NUC 34010 - BIOS upgrade solves this, by moving jumper and inserting USB memory stick containing newer Intel BIOS - NUC 2820 - installs but doesn't boot - Gigabyte Brix GB-BXBT-2807 - Zotac nano CI320 - Zotac ID81 Atom system but UEFI not Bios Just in case you have any similar experience, please drop some hints, and he'll happily reply here with Tons of more details he's tried :) -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] The three step XSCE demo!
Hi I tried this but google drive problematic to download from as it requires to download from a browser. Not adequate for 1.6gb. Let me know if I can pick it up from a regular download place. Why is it so big? Regards, Sebastian El 17/11/13 20:48, Anish Mangal escribió: Download the XSCE Virtualbox appliance from here https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3eW2YPe6koIVXRVbDhSR0xXQ1U (approx 1.6 GB) ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] The three step XSCE demo!
Thanks that will be simpler. Actually I'm more interested in what a good dev environment would be in order to contribute. Do I need to make a fedora chroot? Regards, Sebastian El 19/11/13 09:51, Anish Mangal escribió: I tried uploading it to xsce.activitycentral.com http://xsce.activitycentral.com, but I ran out of space in my user dir. Normally the appliance is 1.3G, but this also has 400mb of IIAB test dataset. I'll give it another shot in another area where there is some free space, and get back. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Hi I tried this but google drive problematic to download from as it requires to download from a browser. Not adequate for 1.6gb. Let me know if I can pick it up from a regular download place. Why is it so big? Regards, Sebastian El 17/11/13 20:48, Anish Mangal escribió: Download the XSCE Virtualbox appliance from here https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3eW2YPe6koIVXRVbDhSR0xXQ1U (approx 1.6 GB) ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions for today
Hi Tony, The people developing the Sugar Network are an international team comprising people from different backgrounds. Sugar Network is not a cloud-based resource. It is an offline / online decentralized communication mechanism which runs at three levels (everyone seems to love cake charts): SUGAR NETWORK DIAGRAM +~~~+ | network.sugarlabs.org |// instance runs backend node + frontend web service +---+ / /restful API*/ / // ability clone + sync entire SN database even over USB (sneakernet) +---+ | optional schoolserver | // instance too, runs backend node + frontend web service +---+ / /same restful API*/ / // gives access to resources at server or central server +---+ | laptop with SN plugin | // XO clients have special view in sugar to access +~~~+ (*) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Platform_Team/Sugar_Network/API The Sugar Network is designed to transport abstract objects across the connected/disconnected gap by leveraging schoolservers to concentrate user interactions and contributions and providing a workflow for synchronization, with or without a central server. Find information about the (still untested!) design of sneakernet functionality at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Platform/Sneakernet At the moment, only XO users are authenticated to the network (using sugar's crypto keys). Web users are demo. Please try it and let us know how we can improve it, and do join the conversation at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sugar-network https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/sugar-network (in cc) for technical questions. Best regards, Sebastian El 08/08/13 05:40, Tony Anderson escribió: Hi, Sebastian My concern was email access in deployments which only have access to the Internet by taking a usb drive to an internet cafe. I thought that Peru was developing such a capability at least for software distribution. The deployments I am working with do not have access to the internet and so are unable to use cloud-based resources. Tony On 08/08/2013 11:39 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 06/08/13 08:33, Tony Anderson escribió: As mentioned, there are server developments at many deployments. What would be great is a co-operative team that would work to provide capabilities in a way that can be distributed widely. I am sure that Peru is working on a method to deliver email via usb drive (and internet cafes). I just don't have any visibility in the method taken, the technology employed, or whether the development can be applicable outside of Peru. We've made a significant effort to have all of our development visible upstream: http://git.sugarlabs.org/network http://git.sugarlabs.org/platform Also most of our technical and non-technical documentation is in English: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Network http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Platform_Team/Sugar_Network We are server-solution-agnostic and merely provide a set of specialized services packaged for major distributions at this time. To take advantage of all Sugar Network capabilities, a patched Sugar shell is necessary (SN-plugin). It adds a special view to participate in the Sugar Network. It is interesting that we are specifically trying to tackle the downstreams/upstream cooperation/distribution issue. Still, we're not planning to add an email gateway to the Sugar Network at this time, but expect most communication to happen over the Sugar Network support forums / knowledge base, which is also accessible using a regular browser: http://network.sugarlabs.org/ Regards, Sebastian ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions for today
El 06/08/13 08:33, Tony Anderson escribió: As mentioned, there are server developments at many deployments. What would be great is a co-operative team that would work to provide capabilities in a way that can be distributed widely. I am sure that Peru is working on a method to deliver email via usb drive (and internet cafes). I just don't have any visibility in the method taken, the technology employed, or whether the development can be applicable outside of Peru. We've made a significant effort to have all of our development visible upstream: http://git.sugarlabs.org/network http://git.sugarlabs.org/platform Also most of our technical and non-technical documentation is in English: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Network http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Platform_Team/Sugar_Network We are server-solution-agnostic and merely provide a set of specialized services packaged for major distributions at this time. To take advantage of all Sugar Network capabilities, a patched Sugar shell is necessary (SN-plugin). It adds a special view to participate in the Sugar Network. It is interesting that we are specifically trying to tackle the downstreams/upstream cooperation/distribution issue. Still, we're not planning to add an email gateway to the Sugar Network at this time, but expect most communication to happen over the Sugar Network support forums / knowledge base, which is also accessible using a regular browser: http://network.sugarlabs.org/ Regards, Sebastian ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Network Backup of Journal Video Items
Martin, Thanks for your response. Originally I thought I would transmit video directly with gstreamer to the server. I've been following http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Gstreamer#Doing_live_streaming_video_from_an_xo and so far I've had mixed luck. I think you're right the WLAN is not good enough for doing this reliably. So now I'm going to try and ease the workflow by having each laptop transmit asynchroniously what they record The idea is to save locally and not have to go laptop by laptop recovering video material. So I'm going to try and suggest to use File Share Activity: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/FileShare I'm still trying to get the server component to fetch all files. I will probably patch the activity to be able to share all video journal items. We will use record unless we can come up with a clever gst-launch line that will record in hi-res to USB, and a way to share those files as well. It will be the children who record so the user experience must be pretty simple and friendly. Our working document for the project is: http://openetherpad.org/requerimientos-neokinok-escuelab the event will document the experience in native communities in Lima and the highlands of Puno: http://escuelab.org/contenido/amtawi Thanks for your suggestions Sebastian I cc other in the team to keep them on the loop. El 24/03/11 14:15, Martin Langhoff escribió: Hi Sebastian, can you tell us a bit more? You be recording with XO-1 units... using Record in Sugar? What version of Sugar and Record? Or you'll use gstreamer directly to the server? One possibility would be to write to an NFS share -- but 'realtime' recording of videos over wlan is tricky and likely to fail. The wlan connection can easily get interference from external sources or just contention (from too many users on the same AP or frequency). If it's possible, recording locally and then having a backup or explicit upload/copy is the most reliable method. Local recording on an XO-1 is limited by the JFFS2 storage -- if you are prepared to use something other than standard Record, you may be able to capture at high resolution and store without compression (or with minimal compression) writing straight to a fast USB Flash storage, or an SD card. This will give you the best starting quality -- which you'll need as you're intending to use this for a documentary. cheers, m -- Sebastian Silva Oversight Board Member Sugar Labs ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Network Backup of Journal Video Items
Hi! I'm preparing a solution for an event in Lima and Puno, Perú, where they indend to film a documentary using XO-1 laptops. I'll try to use gstreamer to send video that will be recorded on a server. I'd like it if you had suggestions for me. As an alternative I'd like it if we could backup tranparently when there are video items in the journal that are favorited. So how should I setup this the easiest? The site won't have Internet. Do i need XS or can I set this up with an existing Ubuntu? Thanks Sebastian -- Sebastian Silva Oversight Board Member Sugar Labs ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
