Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: "XOs cannot act as WiFi access points"

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva


El 16/03/15 a las 22:31, James Cameron escibió:
> Why would Google and the carriers want to have people bypass them?  It
> makes no business sense.  ;-)

Oh very timely with news about this beauty here:
https://github.com/matiasinsaurralde/facebook-tunnel

It's a tunnel for Internet traffic thru "sponsored" facebook chat,
bypassing the atrocious net-neutrality monster that is Zuckerberg's
Internet.Org initiative.

Could this perhaps ever be ported into an XO activity :-)

Pair it with hotspot mode and voilá, user liberation.

I bet they block it before a few months or less if it becomes easy to use.

Regards,
Sebastian

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Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: "XOs cannot act as WiFi access points"

2015-03-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
If I recall correctly, Android devices cannot connect to Ad-hoc networks
out-of-the-box.  There may be some third party utilities which allow
certain devices to do this with varying levels of success.

Instead, either one device is configured as an AP, or a newer-than-Adhoc
standard called WiFi Direct is used.

Android devices may also communicate amongst themselves using Bluetooth,
although creating mesh networks/Internet gateways again would require
third-party utilities.  One such utility (Open Garden) partnered with OLPC
for the XO Tablet (
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/one-laptop-per-child-partners-with-open-garden-to-grow-internet-everywhere-220497161.html
).

In general, generic Android to Android device communication was an unsolved
problem the last time I looked into this.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:36 PM, James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>> > On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when
>> > > ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other
>> > > laptops connecting to it.
>> >
>> > Has sugar addressed http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3708?
>>
>> Why would you use Sugar?
>>
>
> We'd love to keep some/any version of Sugar on the XO if possible, even if
> just so the librarian can putter.
>
> Important: how compatible is the XO's Ad-Hoc networking with generic
> Android tablets/phones and generic/vintage cheap laptops already out there
> in the world?  Any other low-to-medium complexity protocols we should be
> considering, for XO-1.5 and higher especially, that might plausibly sail
> with a few weeks of hacking?  (that is if a genuine WiFi hotspot brings
> more compatibility)
>
> Anyway: scalability's not a requirement (in this case!) as such community
> libraries are tiny, having a couple WiFi devices attached generally, rarely
> more.
>
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Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: "XOs cannot act as WiFi access points"

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Back then, I was dogfooding Sugar 0.94 because I had to deploy it to the
children of Peru. Also, you can image, I had various XOs around.

In my vision, Sugar should grow to be a useful desktop for a person of
any age who likes to learn with simplicity, collaboration and reflection.

If it's not too much to ask, I'd like it stunning as well.

That would be a topic for IAEP [Design] tag I guess.

:-)

Regards,
Sebastian


El 16/03/15 a las 21:36, James Cameron escibió:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>> On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>>> There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when
>>> ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other
>>> laptops connecting to it.
>> Has sugar addressed http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3708?
> Why would you use Sugar?
>

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Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: "XOs cannot act as WiFi access points"

2015-03-16 Thread Adam Holt
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:36 PM, James Cameron  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> > On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron  wrote:
> > >
> > > There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when
> > > ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other
> > > laptops connecting to it.
> >
> > Has sugar addressed http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3708?
>
> Why would you use Sugar?
>

We'd love to keep some/any version of Sugar on the XO if possible, even if
just so the librarian can putter.

Important: how compatible is the XO's Ad-Hoc networking with generic
Android tablets/phones and generic/vintage cheap laptops already out there
in the world?  Any other low-to-medium complexity protocols we should be
considering, for XO-1.5 and higher especially, that might plausibly sail
with a few weeks of hacking?  (that is if a genuine WiFi hotspot brings
more compatibility)

Anyway: scalability's not a requirement (in this case!) as such community
libraries are tiny, having a couple WiFi devices attached generally, rarely
more.
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Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: "XOs cannot act as WiFi access points"

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron  wrote:
> >
> > There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when
> > ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other
> > laptops connecting to it.
> 
> Has sugar addressed http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3708?

Why would you use Sugar?

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