Re: [Server-devel] Specific server hardware needs.

2013-06-10 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.netwrote:

 Hi,

 The Trim-slice model H (with room for a 2.5 hard drive) looks like a good
 candidate for a low power school server (e.g. for running from a 12v
 battery). The Trim-slice AC adapter delivers 12v@1.5 - a good sign.


Agreed. The ability to power these things from a 'car battery' is critical.
I used the term car battery loosely to mean any locally sourced 12v power
source. In my limited experience, the cell phone has been a game changer in
developing nations. Because of the need/desire to recharge cell phones.
Local entrepreneurs have sprung up everywhere to provide the ability to
recharge those phones.

Most of those solutions involve some sort of 12V battery or bank or
batteries plus charging system.

Things like UPSs give me pause because they are not as widely available or
widely under.

 The Trim-slice also has a SD card slot. This could be valuable because
 it would let the device be booted from the SD card and install the XS
 via a USB port (USB drive or hard drive) from a tar ball, for example.

 Currently I do the install in two steps: XS and XC.

 The XS install loads XS (or XSCE).

 The XC install (using the usbmount script) installs the
 content (e.g. Moodle courses, Learn courses, library, internet in a box).
 This is also a way to install packages not included in XS such as Django
 and Mediawiki.

 The first is typically done with a USB drive and the second with an
 external USB hard drive (content currently exceeds 64GB and should grow
 significantly this summer).

 Tony

 Using the SD card could give several benefits:

 SD card supports SSH allowing (finally) for headless (in the field) install

 Install XS to hard drive as image eliminating issues with making bootable
 USB drive

 Install update without repartitioning system and destroying content

 It might also be possible to use the SD card as a 'rescue disk'. Most
 common case is DHCP does
 not init and so no network connection to school server is possible.This
 would at least allow look at logs to see what went wrong.


Thanks for the use scenarios.
Dave


 Checking this out is one of my summer projects.

 Tony




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Re: [Server-devel] Specific server hardware needs.

2013-06-10 Thread Tony Anderson

Hi,

The Nohana school is using a setup as you describe. However, the 
configuration includes an inverter. The first thing the teachers do in 
the morning is plug in their cell phones (the inverter is connected to 
an array of powerstrips some of which are used to charge laptops),


An interesting point is that usb cables with the mini plug are becoming 
more readily available. With these, an XO charged from a solar system 
can charge a cell phone via a usb port.


Tony

On 06/10/2013 06:59 PM, David Farning wrote:

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:

Hi,

The Trim-slice model H (with room for a 2.5 hard drive) looks like
a good candidate for a low power school server (e.g. for running
from a 12v battery). The Trim-slice AC adapter delivers 12v@1.5 - a
good sign.


Agreed. The ability to power these things from a 'car battery' is
critical. I used the term car battery loosely to mean any locally
sourced 12v power source. In my limited experience, the cell phone has
been a game changer in developing nations. Because of the need/desire to
recharge cell phones. Local entrepreneurs have sprung up everywhere to
provide the ability to recharge those phones.

Most of those solutions involve some sort of 12V battery or bank or
batteries plus charging system.

Things like UPSs give me pause because they are not as widely available
or widely under.

The Trim-slice also has a SD card slot. This could be valuable because
it would let the device be booted from the SD card and install the XS
via a USB port (USB drive or hard drive) from a tar ball, for example.

Currently I do the install in two steps: XS and XC.

The XS install loads XS (or XSCE).

The XC install (using the usbmount script) installs the
content (e.g. Moodle courses, Learn courses, library, internet in a
box).
This is also a way to install packages not included in XS such as
Django and Mediawiki.

The first is typically done with a USB drive and the second with an
external USB hard drive (content currently exceeds 64GB and should
grow significantly this summer).

Tony

Using the SD card could give several benefits:

SD card supports SSH allowing (finally) for headless (in the field)
install

Install XS to hard drive as image eliminating issues with making
bootable USB drive

Install update without repartitioning system and destroying content

It might also be possible to use the SD card as a 'rescue disk'.
Most common case is DHCP does
not init and so no network connection to school server is
possible.This would at least allow look at logs to see what went wrong.


Thanks for the use scenarios.
Dave

Checking this out is one of my summer projects.

Tony




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