Re: SD Re: 8v performance head
Yes, Todd is the man. Really good, clean, smooth and benchflowed porting work. Highly recommended. Is there a better ported/big valve head built by someone else? DEFINITLEY NOT!!!Probably. But at that point you should seriously consider going 16 valve or pay a lot more money. You will not find anyone else more reasonable. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD Re: 8v performance head
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SD Re: 8v performance head Is there a better ported/big valve head built by someone else? DEFINITLEY NOT!!!Probably. Are you absolutely sure? Steve had alot of guidance from 2 very important people involed in performance cylinder heads. The man Steve worked for is currently doing Pro-Stock Hemi heads. He was a major contribution to Steve's work. He is also nationally known as the man you go to for Super Stock small block Chevy heads. No arguing this as the person I bought my flowbench from sold it to me because he said he was fortunate enough to get a set of his heads for his SS car. He told me his small block headwork is nationally known as being #1 and this was before I knew who he was talking about.The other mentor is someone who likes to remain anonymous and has a 240cfm head at only .430 lift.That is substantially better than a T-III 16v head. Not knocking anyone elses work, but just pointing out that maybe you should know a bit more about Menegan's work before writing him off or considering his work inferior.Same goes for Todd, right? That being said, I myself, would like to hear some of Todd's background, too. Steve Mercier ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD Re: 8v performance head
Yes, Todd is the man. Really good, clean, smooth and benchflowed porting work. Highly recommended. Is there a better ported/big valve head built by someone else? Probably. But at that point you should seriously consider going 16 valve or pay a lot more money. You will not find anyone else more reasonable. What are Todd's flow #s? I haven't heard of his work, either. With Steve's heads, you get all new hardware and his big valve heads are flowtested and guaranteed to be 205+cfm. His prices are much better than the vendors big valve heads and also perform wy better. A good looking port that is smooth and polished meticulously means absolutely nothing. I speak from experience as I own a flowbench and do porting for myself (and have seen other's work).140 cfm (stock) up to an honest 205+ cfm from a stock casting is just sick as that's almost a 50% gain. I know someone who has an 8v head worked extensively to flow 240cfm... at .430 lift!Steve Mercier ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD Re: 8v performance head
I emailed him the other day and this is the response I got. Also, as I understand it if you are thinking about going with big valves ytou should strongly consider the 16v conversion. Any way here is part of what he sent me. 1- The big valve heads will flow OVER 200 CFM intake and 155 exhaust @.500 lift @ 28. They run about $1600 on the average. 2- The next level down is a +1mm valve using stock seats. Around 185/145 CFM. Usually around $1000-1100. 3- The third variation is giving customers the most bang for the buck. I concentrate on combustion chamber and bowl work (usually around 10 hours of porting). This typically flows around 180/ 140 CFM and runs around $800 after complete valve job etc. Usually install bronze liners in lieu of more expensive guide replacement. Uses either back cut or +1mm stainless valves. These prices are with a good pressure checked core requiring no welding, seat replacement, time serts (heli coils), etc. That will be extra if needed. All heads receive the following: Head is obviously cleaned and bead blasted. Oil galley frost plugs are removed and tapped for 3/8 NPT socketed plug. I put good bronze / mag. guides with clips on option 1 and 2, new springs, hardened keepers, Machine work done using Serti equipment. Obviously all tip heights, spring heights, heads cc'd and deck straightened. Options include spring choice, machined keepers, titanium retainers, bronze guides, etc. Camshaft, lifters and followers are somewhat a personal choice. I would say about 50% of heads I do, I do complete, while the other 50% owner installs camshaft of their choice. When I last talked with Steve Menegan the cheapest head he did was about $1100. I have heard that he is no doing stuf in the $800 dollar range now. When I get the money I will talk with Steve again and find out more about his cheaper headwork. The one thing I know about headwork is that any moron can make a head flow well on the bench but it takes and artist to make it flow well while keeping the velocity high. Because a head that flows well is crap if it doesn't have velocity. What are Todd's flow #s? I haven't heard of his work, either. With Steve's heads, you get all new hardware and his big valve heads are flowtested and guaranteed to be 205+cfm. His prices are much better than the vendors big valve heads and also perform wy better. A good looking port that is smooth and polished meticulously means absolutely nothing. I speak from experience as I own a flowbench and do porting for myself (and have seen other's work).140 cfm (stock) up to an honest 205+ cfm from a stock casting is just sick as that's almost a 50% gain. I know someone who has an 8v head worked extensively to flow 240cfm... at .430 lift!Steve Mercier __ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD Re: 8v performance head
Yes, Todd is the man. Really good, clean, smooth and benchflowed porting work. Highly recommended. Is there a better ported/big valve head built by someone else? Probably. But at that point you should seriously consider going 16 valve or pay a lot more money. You will not find anyone else more reasonable. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD Re: 8v performance head
Steve will do whatever work you want done. That price is for his old RP Stage II package, IIRC. On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 19:23 -0800, andy b wrote: Steve Menegon is the only other guy I know of that does quality head work. People on TD.com really do consider his work to be some of the best out there... Although Todd seems to be a bit more affordable. $800 seems to be a pretty awesome deal. Steve's cheapest deal is 1100-1200 I think... I was really suprised that no one on the sdml knew about steve and that no one on td.com knew about Todd... --- Paul T. Standaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Todd is the man. Really good, clean, smooth and benchflowed porting work. Highly recommended. Is there a better ported/big valve head built by someone else? Probably. But at that point you should seriously consider going 16 valve or pay a lot more money. You will not find anyone else more reasonable. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
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I agree 150%. Todd's work is nothing short of precision. Comparable to a swiss watch. He is the man and is very fair. I cannot say enough good things about him as a person let alone his work. Let's just say I do not turn just anyone loose in my 35k glhs and 1500 in cash. Todd did all the work and documented it too. I wound up owing him more than than 1500 but he delivered a perfect car to me and we are 1600 miles apart. If you want something done perfectly and on the first attempt, he's your man. I will fly him in everytime my cars need work. Todd Nelson's 8v heads are the best money can buy. He does both swirl and G heads. He can also do it with the oversize valves along with all the other valvetrain goodies. I know all of his heads are flow benched so you have solid proven results. You can get ahold of him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might take him a couple days to reply, I don't think he has internet at his house yet. He's done 2 swirl heads and one G head for me and they are AWESOME! Definately a work of art and perform flawlessly. Mark Christofferson 04 SRT4 86 GLHS #085 86 GLHT TI/525 85 GLHT TII/568 93 Shadow ES - Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
