Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[Nick Papior]

There are many reasons for these decisions:

1. Shipping sources from different projects requires that both the licence
of the parent project and the shipped project allows this.
This is the reason why Atom is not shipped with SIESTA anymore. This is
explicitly mentioned by reading the README.ATOM file in the Pseudo
directory. Unless the licence of Atom is changed, we cannot ship it with
SIESTA.
2. Shipping sources from different projects together with another project
can be difficult for certain sys-admins in HPC centers because they
want/require their own libraries to be used.
3. Maintenance problems of new sources (shipped with sources) are really
cumbersome because it requires the developers to follow the development of
each of the shipped sub-projects. When shipping a sub-project users (like
you and everybody else) *require* that the shipped sources actually *works*
(which makes sense :) ). But time is limited and developers of DFT software
should do DFT software development, *not* generic library
development/tracking. There may be other DFT software which does this
differently. In SIESTA we only ship BLAS/LAPACK because their license
allows it, and they are well-established libraries with extremely stable
API's.
4. If people wish to ship the sources with SIESTA they should feel free to
create a new branch of SIESTA and make the appropriate changes to the
Makefile system. As SIESTA is open-source (GPL) you are entitled to help as
much as the core developer team are.

Lastly, NetCDF is still not a requirement for SIESTA. In my opinion, it
greatly aids in the subsequent analysis of real-space grids, for instance,
but it isn't a requirement.

I hope this answers the question and future questions regarding what to
ship with SIESTA.

2017-03-26 3:27 GMT+02:00 berna uyanık :

> I do not know how did you understand I do not know how to install siesta.
> Because I can write all steps of installing siesta without looking into
> manual. But I know siesta includes lapack and scalapack. Then why does
> siesta not include another essential package? Some years ago siesta
> included also atom. Now we should download separately these programs. Maybe
> you think less you consider more to your students.
>
> 2017-03-25 10:45 GMT+03:00 :
>
>> hi,
>> i think what you want to know is..how to install siesta WITHOUT netcdf.
>>
>> s.auluck
>>
>> > Hi. I am sorry my grammar mistakes. Actually I want to try asking  why
>> > have
>> > *not *siesta been coming with netcdf? Or why doesn't siesta include
>> netcdf
>> > package?
>> >
>> > 2017-03-23 7:26 GMT+03:00 berna uyanık :
>> >
>> >> Hi. I wonder why have siesta been coming with netcdf?
>> >>
>> >> 23 Mar 2017 00:00 tarihinde "Nick Papior" 
>> yazdı:
>> >>
>> >>> Please see this post which contains a script to install netcdf4.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have problems with it consult your local administrator or ask
>> on
>> >>> the NetCDF mailing lists.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2017-03-21 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ankita Joshi :
>> >>>
>>  Dear SIESTA users,
>> 
>>  I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone
>>  send me a link to install netcdf4 ?
>> 
>>  Thanks in advance,
>> 
>>  Ankita Joshi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Kind regards Nick
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Sushil Auluck  Phone:+91-512-6797092/6148
>> Department of Physics  +91-512-6798177(Home)
>> Indian Institute of Technology   Cell :+91-9305548667
>> Kanpur 208016 (UP)   Fax  :+91-512-6790914
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>>  ...:saul...@gmail.com
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>> e/2-uncategorised/124-sushil-auluck
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>> /faculty/profile/88-sushil-auluck
>> ...
>> ~
>>
>
>


-- 
Kind regards Nick

Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[berna uyanık]

I do not know how did you understand I do not know how to install siesta.
Because I can write all steps of installing siesta without looking into
manual. But I know siesta includes lapack and scalapack. Then why does
siesta not include another essential package? Some years ago siesta
included also atom. Now we should download separately these programs. Maybe
you think less you consider more to your students.

2017-03-25 10:45 GMT+03:00 :

> hi,
> i think what you want to know is..how to install siesta WITHOUT netcdf.
>
> s.auluck
>
> > Hi. I am sorry my grammar mistakes. Actually I want to try asking  why
> > have
> > *not *siesta been coming with netcdf? Or why doesn't siesta include
> netcdf
> > package?
> >
> > 2017-03-23 7:26 GMT+03:00 berna uyanık :
> >
> >> Hi. I wonder why have siesta been coming with netcdf?
> >>
> >> 23 Mar 2017 00:00 tarihinde "Nick Papior"  yazdı:
> >>
> >>> Please see this post which contains a script to install netcdf4.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html
> >>>
> >>> If you have problems with it consult your local administrator or ask on
> >>> the NetCDF mailing lists.
> >>>
> >>> 2017-03-21 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ankita Joshi :
> >>>
>  Dear SIESTA users,
> 
>  I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone
>  send me a link to install netcdf4 ?
> 
>  Thanks in advance,
> 
>  Ankita Joshi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kind regards Nick
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Prof. Sushil Auluck  Phone:+91-512-6797092/6148
> Department of Physics  +91-512-6798177(Home)
> Indian Institute of Technology   Cell :+91-9305548667
> Kanpur 208016 (UP)   Fax  :+91-512-6790914
> IndiaE-mail:saul...@iitk.ac.in
>  ...:saul...@gmail.com
> http://www.nplindia.org/prof-sushil-auluck
> http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/component/content/
> article/2-uncategorised/124-sushil-auluck
> http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/People/phy_facvis.html
> http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/New01/profile_SA.html
> http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/people/faculty
> http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/people/faculty/12-
> people/faculty/profile/88-sushil-auluck
> ...
> ~
>

Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[sauluck]

hi,
i think what you want to know is..how to install siesta WITHOUT netcdf.

s.auluck

> Hi. I am sorry my grammar mistakes. Actually I want to try asking  why
> have
> *not *siesta been coming with netcdf? Or why doesn't siesta include netcdf
> package?
>
> 2017-03-23 7:26 GMT+03:00 berna uyanık :
>
>> Hi. I wonder why have siesta been coming with netcdf?
>>
>> 23 Mar 2017 00:00 tarihinde "Nick Papior"  yazdı:
>>
>>> Please see this post which contains a script to install netcdf4.
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html
>>>
>>> If you have problems with it consult your local administrator or ask on
>>> the NetCDF mailing lists.
>>>
>>> 2017-03-21 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ankita Joshi :
>>>
 Dear SIESTA users,

 I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone
 send me a link to install netcdf4 ?

 Thanks in advance,

 Ankita Joshi




>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind regards Nick
>>>
>>
>


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Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[berna uyanık]

Hi. I am sorry my grammar mistakes. Actually I want to try asking  why have
*not *siesta been coming with netcdf? Or why doesn't siesta include netcdf
package?

2017-03-23 7:26 GMT+03:00 berna uyanık :

> Hi. I wonder why have siesta been coming with netcdf?
>
> 23 Mar 2017 00:00 tarihinde "Nick Papior"  yazdı:
>
>> Please see this post which contains a script to install netcdf4.
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html
>>
>> If you have problems with it consult your local administrator or ask on
>> the NetCDF mailing lists.
>>
>> 2017-03-21 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ankita Joshi :
>>
>>> Dear SIESTA users,
>>>
>>> I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone
>>> send me a link to install netcdf4 ?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Ankita Joshi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards Nick
>>
>

Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[berna uyanık]

Hi. I wonder why have siesta been coming with netcdf?

23 Mar 2017 00:00 tarihinde "Nick Papior"  yazdı:

> Please see this post which contains a script to install netcdf4.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html
>
> If you have problems with it consult your local administrator or ask on
> the NetCDF mailing lists.
>
> 2017-03-21 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ankita Joshi :
>
>> Dear SIESTA users,
>>
>> I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone send
>> me a link to install netcdf4 ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Ankita Joshi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards Nick
>

Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[Nick Papior]

Please see this post which contains a script to install netcdf4.

http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html

If you have problems with it consult your local administrator or ask on the
NetCDF mailing lists.

2017-03-21 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ankita Joshi :

> Dear SIESTA users,
>
> I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone send
> me a link to install netcdf4 ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ankita Joshi
>
>
>
>


-- 
Kind regards Nick

Re: [SIESTA-L] how to install Netcdf4 for compilation of tbtrans in siesta 4.1b2

[I. Camps]

Hello Ankita,

Please, take a look in a previous topic in this list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/siesta-l@uam.es/msg09275.html


[]'s,

Camps

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Ankita Joshi 
wrote:

> Dear SIESTA users,
>
> I want to compile tbtrans using netcdf4 in siesta 4.1b2. Can someone send
> me a link to install netcdf4 ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ankita Joshi
>
>
>
>