Re: [silk] vengeance

2008-04-28 Thread Tea BeeDi
We had a vengeance lesson encounter, a couple of years ago
with a Lakota Indian, we came across in the South Dakota area.

After some sharing of Indian (them Indian) flute styles and hosting us for
some local Sioux city foods he happen to mentioned that he was on Parole.
We dared an intrusion and asked why he was on Parole. He said he
had murdered his distant cousin in a community feud (my paraphrasing of
some sentiments I recall).

And that followed by some hints of how the law has been unable
to understand the Indian community and how harsh it has been
to them that they have to deal with this foreign system (after killing
one of their own?).

I naturally, but after casually swallowing more of my meal, asked
how the Indian justice system would be for this case - so I can get
a feel for the monstrosity of the foreign laws.

He said: if the elders found me incorrect in my act of killing him, I probably
would be asked to become a substitute son for his parents and
care of his parents and family as he would have.

QED for
Tea Beedi

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i loved this article.

  in the silklist tradition, i'm posting it in its entirety so that it can
  be quoted in responses.

  -rishab

  
 http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/21/080421fa_fact_diamond?currentPage=all
  Vengeance Is Ours
  What can tribal societies tell us about our need to get even?
  by Jared Diamond April 21, 2008



Re: [silk] Calorie Count

2008-04-28 Thread Dave Long



once they've bought the huge one, they will drink it all up!


Drink sizes here tend to be 250 or 300 ml; after a couple of years of  
habituation I now occasionally find it a bit of work to finish a 500  
ml soda.


Apparently I'm not alone, I was discussing this with some other  
expats and they observed that, after being accustomed to the  
deciliter servings of wine here, when they return to the UK they find  
that (as a labor-saving measure?) the glasses are poured overly full.


The McDo's even — due to internationally standardized supersizing? —  
offers basins for pouring out excess soda after a meal.  I'd think  
it'd be easier to just serve regular portions than to add special  
furniture to the franchise; maybe I'm misinterpreting something?



 It is important to learn to eat slowly; most people eat way too fast.



Another adjustment I had to make coming from the States is that lunch  
in general lasts for an hour and a half (a long lunch might be two  
hours).  It certainly seems healthier to take longer to eat less: one  
has the time to be hungry, eat, be satiated, and even fit in a little  
postprandial lull before returning, relaxed, to the office.


-Dave




[silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Gautam John
I'm headed to Chennai for a few days and am contemplating lugging my
laptop along. I was wondering if there are any free or paid wi-fi
access spots in Chennai?

Cheers,

Gautam

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Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Gautam John [29/04/08 08:42 +0530]:

I'm headed to Chennai for a few days and am contemplating lugging my
laptop along. I was wondering if there are any free or paid wi-fi
access spots in Chennai?


Most of the better hotels have wifi. Some of the cafe coffee days have it
(though whether or not that service is on and working .. depends).

Would suggest you carry along a tata indicom / vodafone etc data card.

srs



Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Gautam John
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Most of the better hotels have wifi. Some of the cafe coffee days have it
  (though whether or not that service is on and working .. depends).

Thanks. I'm not staying at a hotel but with non-networked family.

  Would suggest you carry along a tata indicom / vodafone etc data card.

I have a tata indicom usb thingy but I haven't been able to get it to
play nice with Ubuntu.



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Re: [silk] vengeance

2008-04-28 Thread ss
On Saturday 26 Apr 2008 5:03:50 am Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:

 http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/21/080421fa_fact_diamond?current
Page=all Vengeance Is Ours


 State government is now so nearly universal around the globe that we
 forget how recent an innovation it is; the first states are thought to
 have arisen only about fifty-five hundred years ago, in the Fertile
 Crescent. Before there were states, Daniel’s method of resolving major
 disputes—either violently or by payment of compensation—was the
 worldwide norm.

Unfortunately modern states constitute only a small proportion of the world, 
and people in those modern states imagine that they represent the entire 
world.

Check Qesas crimes in Islamic law here. Also look at Hadd crimes.
http://muslim-canada.org/Islam_myths.htm

Vengeance is alive and healthy in islamic law, which is imposed as Sharia 
across huge tracts of the world, including the UK.


 Daniel explained to me that Handas are taught from early childhood to
 hate their enemies and to prepare themselves for a life of fighting. “If
 you die in a fight, you will be considered a hero, and people will
 remember you for a long time,”

Heard of jihad?


 There is no doubt that state acceptance of every individual’s right to
 exact personal vengeance would make it impossible for us to coexist
 peacefully as fellow-citizens of the same state.

In fact the death penalty is a result of the state taking on the 
responsibility of blood for blood.

I personally find it easy to see how the concept of state developed versus 
individual allied or warring clans. When coercive military force gets 
concentrated under one leader, he becomes the biggest murderer of them all, 
ensuring that his supporters get loot, and opponents get eliminated.

When such a leader is faced with civil war due to personal rivalries among his 
followers, his own strength is reduced by disunity. It makes sense for him to 
quickly murder a murderer and force vengeance seekers to subsume their 
instincts to his justice. In democracies the state and constitution is 
the king. The actions and intent are the same.

shiv







Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay

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Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Gautam John
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  there was an article in the LFY ~2 issues back around getting it to work
  on debian

Might you have a link handy?



Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Ashok Krish
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have a tata indicom usb thingy but I haven't been able to get it to
 play nice with Ubuntu.


It works fine for me. Just had to put in the right settings in wvdial (#777,
userid/pass = internet/internet). Your other option is to enable Mobile
Office (if you are using Airtel) and connect to your phone over bluetooth.
With a 3G phone, the speeds are much better than the Tata Indicom data card.




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Re: [silk] WiFi in Chennai

2008-04-28 Thread Gautam John
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Ashok Krish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It works fine for me. Just had to put in the right settings in wvdial (#777,
  userid/pass = internet/internet). Your other option is to enable Mobile
  Office (if you are using Airtel) and connect to your phone over bluetooth.
  With a 3G phone, the speeds are much better than the Tata Indicom data card.

Will try that. No drivers et. al. needed for the USB modem?



Re: [silk] Identity and so on

2008-04-28 Thread Charles Haynes
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM, rene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  rene wrote:
   I am Rene ... How can you know? You have to trust me.

But that trust works both ways, by deliberately obfuscating your
identity, you created the impression that you were unwilling to trust
us.

  va created the imagination, that at/around Dinesh there is a bunch of
 people which mixup there identities. I pointed out that
  1) there is no indication of that, only mistrust in those people who
 claimed to write an email.

That seems like an obvious consequence.

It is precisely because of the fragility of email addresses as
indication of identity that deliberately breaking that association
causes such an strong reaction.

It's also the reason I personally use my real name online. It's a way
for me to say you can trust me.

-- Charles