Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank)
I will read all the books that I've bought and borrowed , travel both in India and abroad, preferably road trips and resume playing sports. Had a similar discussion some time back here http://tr.im/16wl
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 13:00 +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: Reading the responses so far it seems fair to make the working hypothesis that the average silk lister is interested in (in no particular order) - Reading up on history - Getting fit - Catching up with a long list of unread books - Traveling the world [...] I wonder why no one desires the most popular pastime of mankind when time and money are no object. [...] Perhaps this silk list place is a bunch of weirdos, eh? i'm a great believer in revealed preferences [1]. this implies that things to do when i have the time are basically things i don't do and don't actually want to do, that much. so the working hypothesis implies that the average silklister is not historical, fit, well read or well travelled. perhaps enough should be inserted as a qualifier. similarly, the implication here is that the average silklister is frequently occupied in the most popular pastime of mankind that it is not something left for when i have the time. although perhaps enough should be used as a qualifier here, too, for frequently occupied. -rishab 1. An example of a popular joke among economists: two economists see a Ferrari. “I want one of those,” says the first. “Obviously not,” replies the other. see http://www.economist.com/research/Economics/alphabetic.cfm?letter=R#revealedpreference
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2008 12:12:29 am ashok _ wrote: Perhaps rationality follows a darwinian system of natural selection... with its own rules and mechanisms of selection.. You can rationally chose not to propagate...but that goes against darwinian selection...where the natural instinct is to use the ability to propagate... Correct. Check The Selfish Gene for views on morality and evolution. Rationally choosing not to propagate would reduce the presence in the gene pool of genes of people who rationally chose not to propagate. with a relative increase in proportion of people in the gene pool carrying genes that make them rationally choose to propagate shiv
Re: [silk] Determining gender from IP address.
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2008 8:59:37 am Mahesh Murthy wrote: Sent from my iPhone er - is this an announcement that you have an iPhone, or an announcement that it is working at last? With no disrespect towards iPhones in general, aren't email capable phones a dime a dozen now? shiv
Re: [silk] Determining gender from IP address.
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2008 9:06:02 am Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: how do you determine gender from IP address? is a terrific question for a job interview. On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 08:01 +1100, Charles Haynes wrote: Your question does raise a rather important point about the current state of computing and networking technology. The fact that all those bright people (especially some of them on Silk) are unable to write a simple function that can determine gender from IP Address is something I just cannot understand. On the question of how IP relates to gender - would not the question of whether you stand or sit when UP be relevant? shiv
Re: [silk] Determining gender from IP address.
On Tuesday 18 Nov 2008 6:53:01 am Deepa Mohan wrote: Yes, gender is as much between the ears as between the legs You mean stuff like bent gent, kink think and the like? shiv
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why no one desires the most popular pastime of mankind when time and money are no object. Because it's not a thing I would like to do when I get the time it's the reason I don't have time to do those other things... -- Charles
Re: [silk] Determining gender from IP address.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Joe Barrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that what finger is for? ping v.
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather ask it this way: can we rationally explain our morals without stating it as a *belief* that something is right or wrong? I can't. It appears to me that our brains are inherently irrational, but capable of rationality as a (self) imposed discipline. I can separate morality from religion, can rationally explain why I'm an atheist, but can't rationalise the morals. I've never understood how one defines theism or atheism for that matter even religion with a fixed frame of thought. .
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define destruction? as each moment (nano seconds, if you wish) that just passed me by as I typed this, was destroyed forever, never to return. v.
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:34:55PM +0530, . wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define destruction? as each moment (nano seconds, if you wish) that just passed me by as I typed this, was destroyed forever, never to return. Not nearly good enough. It lacks a measurement process for the information irretrievably erased (all assuming time travel is impossible), and which would involve a hierarchy of scopes each with their own dynamics (your CNS is adequately described at six orders of magnitude slower timebase, whereas things at Planck scale consider ~ns an effective eternity). In general destruction of inanimate things are cheap. Look at the Moon, no ecosystems to destroy. Inasmuch destruction of future potentials is to be considered you can always counter that by maximized potential/mole realized by postbiota.
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not nearly good enough. It lacks a measurement process for the information irretrievably erased (all assuming time travel is impossible), and which would involve a hierarchy of scopes each with their own dynamics (your CNS is adequately how? evolution does take time so does not destruction of any sort (including cost of creation, probably in terms of time) make it measurable? In general destruction of inanimate things are cheap. Look at the Moon, no if you consider time inanimate, its still not cheap vis-a-vis the time it takes to create/grow anything. Even the Moon's evolution took some time. So destruction whilst a finality is not cheap, hence a loss. ecosystems to destroy. Inasmuch destruction of future potentials is to be considered you can always counter that by maximized potential/mole realized by postbiota. explain ? .
Re: [silk] Time for another FoU Camp
I guess I'll need to hitch a ride anyway - coming in from Madras. srs I have just booked 2 suites (3 beds/suite) at the Mysore Sports Club for 20th Dec. Which leaves with the next item: agenda. Thoughts? (I for one am OK with just letting it happen) The plan as of now is to meet up at my place and drive to Mysore from there. I assume Thaths will ride with me, so I have one more place free in my car, first come first served.
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
Inasmuch destruction of future potentials is to be considered you can always counter that by maximized potential/mole realized by postbiota. explain ? Yes, yes, please explain. There was a loud zipping noise as this sentence shot past over my head. Deepa. .
Re: [silk] Time for another FoU Camp
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'll need to hitch a ride anyway - coming in from Madras. Solely from the efficiency point of view, and speaking to the 'anyway' in your reply - the Shatabdi Express can get you all the way to Mysore. Cheeni
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why no one desires the most popular pastime of mankind when time and money are no object. Because it's not a thing I would like to do when I get the time it's the reason I don't have time to do those other things... Despite the title, I think most people put down here wishes that they know they have a good chance of attaining. At least I did. Cheeni P.S. I didn't realize you led a rock star lifestyle, remind me to pay close attention to you the next time we meet :-)
Re: [silk] Time for another FoU Camp
Yeah - but half the fun is lost if I come in alone. I've done enough traveling alone for business to last me a lifetime. srs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Srini Ramakrishnan Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:24 PM To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Time for another FoU Camp On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'll need to hitch a ride anyway - coming in from Madras. Solely from the efficiency point of view, and speaking to the 'anyway' in your reply - the Shatabdi Express can get you all the way to Mysore. Cheeni
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank)
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Mayank Dhingra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I will read all the books that I've bought and borrowed , travel both in India and abroad, preferably road trips and resume playing sports. I will do the same minus the sports (those I suck at). I will also watch a thousand movies, learn a new language, order cable TV to watch the news channels and food shows, and acquire a dog/cat/fish (depending on finances and willingness to take on responsibility).
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
--- On Tue, 18/11/08, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [silk] When I Have The Time To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 7:26 PM On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why no one desires the most popular pastime of mankind when time and money are no object. Because it's not a thing I would like to do when I get the time it's the reason I don't have time to do those other things... Despite the title, I think most people put down here wishes that they know they have a good chance of attaining. At least I did. Cheeni P.S. I didn't realize you led a rock star lifestyle, remind me to pay close attention to you the next time we meet :-) Given for a moment that he does lead a rock star lifestyle, what good reason does that give you to pay close attention to him? Unless you wish to pick up tips at the feet of the master. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Despite the title, I think most people put down here wishes that they know they have a good chance of attaining. At least I did. Cheeni P.S. I didn't realize you led a rock star lifestyle, remind me to pay close attention to you the next time we meet :-) Cheni! Still laughing. Deepa.
[silk] [Silk-List] Meetup in Bangalore next week
Hey Folks $Subject. Anybody for a silk-list meetup in Bangalore next week. In Bangalore for FSCK.IN. (Err.. I mean Foss.in). Devdas, Jace, Venky and Biju might be the usual silkers at the conference. regards -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090
Re: [silk] [Silk-List] Meetup in Bangalore next week
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Folks $Subject. Anybody for a silk-list meetup in Bangalore next week. In Bangalore for FSCK.IN. (Err.. I mean Foss.in). Devdas, Jace, Venky and Biju might be the usual silkers at the conference. I am game. Since the sunday is off, we can probably make it overnight as well (29th-30th Nov) Any suggestions ? -- Vinayak
Re: [silk] [Silk-List] Meetup in Bangalore next week
Vinayak Hegde wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Folks $Subject. Anybody for a silk-list meetup in Bangalore next week. In Bangalore for FSCK.IN. (Err.. I mean Foss.in). Devdas, Jace, Venky and Biju might be the usual silkers at the conference. I am game. Since the sunday is off, we can probably make it overnight as well (29th-30th Nov) Any suggestions ? -- Vinayak I am in. But not for an overnighter.
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why no one desires the most popular pastime of mankind when time and money are no object. Because it's not a thing I would like to do when I get the time it's the reason I don't have time to do those other things... I didn't realize you led a rock star lifestyle, remind me to pay close attention to you the next time we meet :-) I know you're being facetious but to be slightly more serious for a second, while I don't consider it a rock star lifestyle, I *am* doing the things I want to do. Travel the world, eat in interesting places, meet interesting people, and yes, all the drugs I want (fortunately not many), and plenty of sex. I don't have a list of things I would do if I had the time - they're either things I'm actually going to do (a short list) or things I've said I'm never actually going to do this and regretfully let go of. In any case the world has a way of rearranging your priorities when you least expect it. -- Charles
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In any case the world has a way of rearranging your priorities when you least expect it. Amen to that. Cheeni
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
I will extend my list by adding things you've mentioned except for cable TV(not much into TV) and pet. I would also most definitely be involved in some form of social work and would trace my family tree back to a few centuries :)
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
Is there any reason you're editing the subject line to add your name and others'? It breaks threading in MUAs that use the subject to group messages (such as gmail). Udhay On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Mayank Dhingra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason you're editing the subject line to add your name and others'? It breaks threading in MUAs that use the subject to group messages (such as gmail). Thank you, +1
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Malini Aisola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thank you, +1 me too, i'm feeling a little over exposed :) Subject lines are only one carriage return away from the from field, usually. How does this make you over exposed, and why the fear of exposure? Just curious, since the fear seems irrational. Cheeni
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
me too, i'm feeling a little over exposed :) Subject lines are only one carriage return away from the from field, usually. How does this make you over exposed, and why the fear of exposure? Just curious, since the fear seems irrational. ummm most fears are irrational but this is not fear, just fact. my name in the from line only appears on my posts but my name in the middle of the subject line appears on every post in the thread.
Re: [silk] [Silk-List] Meetup in Bangalore next week
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:43:37PM +0530, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: Hey Folks $Subject. Anybody for a silk-list meetup in Bangalore next week. In Bangalore for FSCK.IN. (Err.. I mean Foss.in). Devdas, Jace, Venky and Biju might be the usual silkers at the conference. I am having to fly out on Saturday instead of Monday as originally planned (Jet cancelled out the convinient flights on both Sunday and Monday), so a dinner meet would be feasible. Overnighting, not so. Devdas Bhagat
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Malini Aisola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me too, i'm feeling a little over exposed :) Subject lines are only one carriage return away from the from field, usually. How does this make you over exposed, and why the fear of exposure? Just curious, since the fear seems irrational. ummm most fears are irrational but this is not fear, just fact. my name in the from line only appears on my posts but my name in the middle of the subject line appears on every post in the thread. Now that you're exposed, maybe an introduction is in order? List convention is that non-lurkers introduce themselves. -- b
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time (Mayank) (Malini Aisola) (Mayank)
Now that you're exposed, maybe an introduction is in order? List convention is that non-lurkers introduce themselves. true, you'll have to dig through your old e-mails to find it then, won't you? ;)
Re: [silk] When I Have The Time
At 2008-11-17 15:40:46 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather ask it this way: can we rationally explain our morals without stating it as a *belief* that something is right or wrong? I can't. Doesn't that depend on what your morals are? -- ams