[silk] History books on Baltics / Easter Europe and South-East Asia

2012-02-02 Thread Vinayak Hegde
Hi silklisters,

I wanted a few recommendations on History books on Baltics (Estonia /
Latvia / Lithuania), Eastern Europe (Czech Republic, Slovenia,
Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary and further east) and Southeast Asia
(mostly Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam). I have visited some of these
countries in the past but do not know much about their history
(medieval times, colonisation and road to independence). Wikipedia
only sates the palata so much.

I would prefer travelogues or biographies as compared to drier
documentary reads of history.

-- Vinayak



Re: [silk] History books on Baltics / Easter Europe and South-East Asia

2012-02-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Thaths did a lot of travel through se asia including laos, you should find
his blog someplace.

Vinayak Hegde [02/02/12 16:43 +0530]:

Hi silklisters,

I wanted a few recommendations on History books on Baltics (Estonia /
Latvia / Lithuania), Eastern Europe (Czech Republic, Slovenia,
Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary and further east) and Southeast Asia
(mostly Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam). I have visited some of these
countries in the past but do not know much about their history
(medieval times, colonisation and road to independence). Wikipedia
only sates the palata so much.

I would prefer travelogues or biographies as compared to drier
documentary reads of history.

-- Vinayak





Re: [silk] History books on Baltics / Easter Europe and South-East Asia

2012-02-02 Thread Thaths
My modus operandi when traveling through SE Asia was to take my time moving
through the country and reading up as much as I could on these countries.

Here are some books that I liked about Vietnam.

Vietnam:
* A Bright Shining Lie: John Paul Vann and America in
Vietnamhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/0679724141/ -
The story of the Vietnam War illustrated through the life of one of the
participants in it.
* The Best and the
Brightesthttp://www.amazon.com/Best-Brightest-David-Halberstam/dp/0449908704/ref=pd_vtp_b_2-
A former Kennedy advisor/speech writer's take that even the best and
the
brightest make terrible mistakes with perfectly good intensions.
* Street Without Joy: The French Debacle In
Indochinahttp://www.amazon.com/Street-Without-Joy-Indochina-Stackpole/dp/0811732363/ref=pd_vtp_b_4
- A very dry, academic take on the first indochinese war (leading to
Dien
Bien Phu and the Geneva accords in the 50's).
* Vietnam: A 
Historyhttp://www.amazon.com/Vietnam-History-Stanley-Karnow/dp/0140265473/ref=pd_vtp_b_1-
An excellent, accessible history of the Vietnam War
* Vietnam - A Television
Historyhttp://www.amazon.com/Vietnam-Television-History-Everett-Alvarez/dp/B0001WTWOC/ref=pd_vtp_b_21-
Not a book, but the DVD of an excellent TV series (based on the
previous
book in this list).
* How We Won the War http://www.amazon.com/dp/0916894010/ - The Vietnam
war as seen from the brilliant general on the North Vietnamese side (Vo
Nguyen Giap)
* The Girl in the Picture: The Story of Kim Phuc, the Photograph, and the
Vietnam War http://www.amazon.com/dp/0140280219/ - We've all seen the
photo of that naked, napalmed girl running towards the camera. Here is her
story (and through it, the story of the photographer and the war).
* Brother Enemy: The War After the
Warhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/0020493614/- After the Americans left in
1975, another war broke out in Indochina
between former allies perceived as a homogenous communist dominoes by the
planners in the the Pentagon. Nayan Chanda was one of the few non-Western
correspondents left in Vietnam who wrote extensively about the goings on
for the Far Eastern Economic Review (RIP!).
* The Pentagon Papers http://www.amazon.com/dp/007028380X/ - Reading up
on what the military planners in the US knew as they were getting mired
more and more into the war is fascinating to read. Daniel Ellsberg's leak
of the Pentagon Papers were the wikileaks of its day. Note that this is an
abridged book. The full Papers runs into a number of volumes and is not a
fun read if you are not into Think Tanks and position papers.
* Dispatches http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307270807/ - War reportage at its
finest. A classic.
* Another Vietnam: Pictures of the War from the Other
Sidehttp://www.amazon.com/dp/0792264657- We've seen (Doors playing
on our mental stereos) the iconic photographs
of the Vietnam War from the cameras of Larry Burroughs, Tim Page, Horst
Faas, Henri Huet, Nick Ut and others. How did the others see the war?
This book gives us a glimpse of the photos by war photographers on the
Vietnamese side.

I'll send my recommendations for Cambodia and Laos later. Compiling this
list is proving to be time consuming.

Thaths


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 Thaths did a lot of travel through se asia including laos, you should find
 his blog someplace.

 Vinayak Hegde [02/02/12 16:43 +0530]:

  Hi silklisters,

 I wanted a few recommendations on History books on Baltics (Estonia /
 Latvia / Lithuania), Eastern Europe (Czech Republic, Slovenia,
 Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary and further east) and Southeast Asia
 (mostly Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam). I have visited some of these
 countries in the past but do not know much about their history
 (medieval times, colonisation and road to independence). Wikipedia
 only sates the palata so much.

 I would prefer travelogues or biographies as compared to drier
 documentary reads of history.

 -- Vinayak





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Re: [silk] History books on Baltics / Easter Europe and South-East Asia

2012-02-02 Thread Thaths
I missed one other book that I really liked:

* A Dragon Apparent: Travels in Cambodia, Laos, and
Vietnamhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/090787133X/- Normal Lewis'
travelogue through SE Asia during the last days of French
Indochine.

Thaths


Re: [silk] History books on Baltics / Easter Europe and South-East Asia

2012-02-02 Thread Thaths
Onwards to book recommendations about Cambodia:

* A History of Cambodia http://www.amazon.com/dp/0813343631/ - A very
accessible history of Cambodia from ancient times. The sections on the
Angkor period is widely cited/quoted in other works about Cambodia.
Chandler's Brother Number One http://www.amazon.com/dp/0813335108/ is
also excellent.
* Cambodia: Year Zero http://www.amazon.com/dp/0030403065/ -
Father Ponchaud's book was one of the first to expose the horrors of
Democratic Kampuchea. Sadly out of print and difficult to get
* Any book by Ben Kiernan. His books about the rise and fall of the Khmer
Rouge are thouroughly researched academic tomes. May not be very accessible
as a lay reader.
* Sideshow: Kissinger, Nixon, and the Destruction of
Cambodiahttp://www.amazon.com/dp/081541224X/- The horrible truth
about Nixon's secret war in Cambodia and the
devastating impact it had on the country. Shawcross ruffled quite a few
feathers with his Deliver Us from Evil: Peacekeepers, Warlords and a World
of Endless Conflict http://www.amazon.com/dp/0743200284/ (also about
Cambodia)
* First They Killed My Father: A Daughter of Cambodia
Remembershttp://www.amazon.com/dp/0060856262/- There are dozens of
books written by survivors of the Khmer Rouge regime.
This one is among the better written.
* When The War Was Over: Cambodia And The Khmer Rouge
Revolutionhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/1891620002/ -
Elizabeth Becker was one of the few (iirc, only 3) Westerners allowed by
the Khmer Rouge regime to visit the country
* The Lost Executioner: A Story of the Khmer
Rougehttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B001G7RAZ4/- The story of Kang Kek Iew
aka Comrade Duch. I am personally fascinated by
Iew's story. How does a meek mathematics teacher with so much promise turn
into the Director of the infamous Tuol Sleng prison? And what is it that
motivates him to be the only Khmer Rouge cadre/leader to come clean,
confess his role in the genocide and atone for his sins? Would I be any
different if I were in his shoes?

If you want to keep up with what is happening in Cambodia today, The Phnom
Penh Post http://www.phnompenhpost.com/ is an excellent English-language
newspaper. The Bayon Pearnik http://www.bayonpearnik.com/ is also a
decent monthly magazine - though focused mostly on the lives and
preoccupations of expats.

Thaths
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Homer: D'oh!
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Homer: Woo-hoo!
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