Re: [silk] Migrant workers and bank accounts

2013-04-22 Thread Ingrid
On 21 April 2013 12:29, Surabhi Tomar surabhi.to...@gmail.com wrote:


 As an aside, isn't most of India's working class 'migrant'? As is evident
 from the different answers (in different scenarios) that a person gives for
 Where are you from?. For example, to people referring to my roots, I'd
 have to answer U.P (where my grand-parents lived), to people referring to
 my schooling, I'd have to say Delhi (where my parents live) and to people
 asking for my current residence, I'd say Bangalore (where I currently
 live).

 Also makes Facebook's hometown question an interesting one as you find
 people living in Guwahati for the past 20 years, answering it with
 Bangalore!


Immigrant vs. expat: differentiated by race, nationality, class:
http://www.antropologi.info/blog/anthropology/2011/expats-and-migrants

In a sense we're all either refugees or explorers.

Ingrid Srinath
@ingridsrinath


Re: [silk] Migrant workers and bank accounts

2013-04-22 Thread Vinay Rao
 Do they have bank accounts?

Between the extensions in my family, I've had two maids from Punjab (not
the same pair all along) working in Bangalore for a few years now. My
experience from this small sample set is that their parents, or an uncle,
or a neighbour, has a bank account. Typically someone with a seemingly
bonafide job, such as a security guard at a school, has a bank account.


 Problems faced by them in opening bank accounts esp on KYC front

Without a permanent address or a 'Sanaaksh' (something like that - I think
it means 'identification') card, banks make it  to open accounts. The
bigger issue I think is the distance to a bank, or source of income. A new
source of income in Punjab villages is textile industries, but this
involves long hours of work from including travel from the village, 6 days
a week, and many are barely able to keep up. If they have no steady source,
the need for a personal bank account diminishes.


 How do they send money home?

In our case, we would 'drop' a  cheque at the local SBI bank branch in
Bangalore, with a teller, with written instructions. And then wait close to
20days to confirm with the maids' contacts, AND our local bank branch, that
the money has been transferred.


 Do they have banks in their villages?

 typically have a bigger village or district HQ where a bank exists.


 Do they get any loans there?

I have never asked my maids but I doubt it. They depend on more informal,
and possibly more dangerous, ways of getting loans


 Do they need micro insurance?

Yes. I don't think they know insurance of any form exists. Their biggest
concerns are when a family member needs an operation or such medical
assistance.


 Do they need any micro saving products?

Not sure I understand what a micro-saving product is, but teaching them how
to manage and save their money is a challenge.


Are you aware of this organisation http://www.alittleworld.com/ ?
Off-list, I can connect you to one of the founders. It could be difficult
to get a response from him, but I can't think of anyone else with more
experience in this area.


:: Vinay Rao


Re: [silk] Migrant workers and bank accounts

2013-04-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I do believe that kiva tied up with a local micro lender some months or maybe a 
year back ,,

--srs (iPad)

On 23-Apr-2013, at 5:28, Vinay Rao v...@bangid.com wrote:

 Do they have bank accounts?
 Between the extensions in my family, I've had two maids from Punjab (not
 the same pair all along) working in Bangalore for a few years now. My
 experience from this small sample set is that their parents, or an uncle,
 or a neighbour, has a bank account. Typically someone with a seemingly
 bonafide job, such as a security guard at a school, has a bank account.
 
 
 Problems faced by them in opening bank accounts esp on KYC front
 Without a permanent address or a 'Sanaaksh' (something like that - I think
 it means 'identification') card, banks make it  to open accounts. The
 bigger issue I think is the distance to a bank, or source of income. A new
 source of income in Punjab villages is textile industries, but this
 involves long hours of work from including travel from the village, 6 days
 a week, and many are barely able to keep up. If they have no steady source,
 the need for a personal bank account diminishes.
 
 
 How do they send money home?
 In our case, we would 'drop' a  cheque at the local SBI bank branch in
 Bangalore, with a teller, with written instructions. And then wait close to
 20days to confirm with the maids' contacts, AND our local bank branch, that
 the money has been transferred.
 
 
 Do they have banks in their villages?
 typically have a bigger village or district HQ where a bank exists.
 
 
 Do they get any loans there?
 I have never asked my maids but I doubt it. They depend on more informal,
 and possibly more dangerous, ways of getting loans
 
 
 Do they need micro insurance?
 Yes. I don't think they know insurance of any form exists. Their biggest
 concerns are when a family member needs an operation or such medical
 assistance.
 
 
 Do they need any micro saving products?
 Not sure I understand what a micro-saving product is, but teaching them how
 to manage and save their money is a challenge.
 
 
 Are you aware of this organisation http://www.alittleworld.com/ ?
 Off-list, I can connect you to one of the founders. It could be difficult
 to get a response from him, but I can't think of anyone else with more
 experience in this area.
 
 
 :: Vinay Rao