Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Sriram Karra karra@gmail.com wrote: P.S.: I am reading the following article. If one wants to be pedantic, why not go all the way. Ref: section 2.4 in particular. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-uncertainty/#UncRelUncPri That reference seems like a fine explanation of Heisenberg, but isn't actually relevant to Heisenbugs - except to prove Rob's assertion. -- Charles
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, Udhay Shankar N wrote: On 29-May-12 10:02 AM, Biju Chacko wrote: One of these days I should write up the story of the ERP project that I worked on that crashed if the CEO of our company was in the room. Same kind of story. Here's a silklist-worthy project - let us crowdsource a word that will describe this kind of story. Suggestions? Epifunnys
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Sidin Vadukut sidin.vadu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, Udhay Shankar N wrote: On 29-May-12 10:02 AM, Biju Chacko wrote: the ERP that crashed if the CEO of our company was in the room. Same kind of story. Here's a silklist-worthy project - let us crowdsource a word that will describe this kind of story. Suggestions? Epifunnys Cryptoentomological -- Charles
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
Here's a silklist-worthy project - let us crowdsource a word that will describe this kind of story. Suggestions? LocaMotion
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:50:29AM +0100, Sidin Vadukut wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, Udhay Shankar N wrote: On 29-May-12 10:02 AM, Biju Chacko wrote: One of these days I should write up the story of the ERP project that I worked on that crashed if the CEO of our company was in the room. Same kind of story. Here's a silklist-worthy project - let us crowdsource a word that will describe this kind of story. Suggestions? Epifunnys Worst Heisenbug Ever.
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Worst Heisenbug Ever. Sorry that award's taken by the Priority Inversion problem on the mars pathfinder. http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/mbj/mars_pathfinder/mars_pathfinder.html -- Vinayak
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Worst Heisenbug Ever. Rob Pike on the term Heisenbug http://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2010/08/know-your-science.html What's really sad is that many of the commonest misuses of the terminology of quantum mechanics come from other areas of science and technology. For instance, there is a term in computer engineering called a Heisenbug, which refers to faults that are unpredictable, most often for bugs that go away when you examine them. It's a cute name but it isn't even a correct reference. The quantum mechanical property of things changing when you observe them is not the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, it's the observer effect. These two ideas are often confused but they are not the same. They're not even closely related. Now go read the rest of the rant, because it's great. -- Charles
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Here's a silklist-worthy project - let us crowdsource a word that will describe this kind of story. Suggestions? Software.
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote: Now go read the rest of the rant, because it's great. Well written and, er, very pedantic. What next? Is he going to nitpick about 'bitrot' saying the phenomenon is quite different from bits actually rotting, because bits do not rot in the general sense that other things rot? Methinks he should develop his sense of humour.
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Sriram Karra karra@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.com wrote: Now go read the rest of the rant, because it's great. Well written and, er, very pedantic. What next? Is he going to nitpick about 'bitrot' saying the phenomenon is quite different from bits actually rotting, because bits do not rot in the general sense that other things rot? Methinks he should develop his sense of humour. Sorry his writing wasn't to your taste. I find his dry wit quite entertaining. Rob is one of the smartest people I know, but his sense of humor is not to everyone's taste; it often depends on the reader being (almost) as smart as he is, which means there's only a tiny audience for it. -- Charles
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Sriram Karra karra@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.com wrote: Now go read the rest of the rant, because it's great. Well written and, er, very pedantic. What next? Is he going to nitpick about 'bitrot' saying the phenomenon is quite different from bits actually rotting, because bits do not rot in the general sense that other things rot? Methinks he should develop his sense of humour. Sorry his writing wasn't to your taste. I find his dry wit quite entertaining. Rob is one of the smartest people I know, but his sense of humor is not to everyone's taste; it often depends on the reader being (almost) as smart as he is, which means there's only a tiny audience for it. Oh, well. Thanks for the closing out the discussion. -Karra P.S.: I am reading the following article. If one wants to be pedantic, why not go all the way. Ref: section 2.4 in particular. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-uncertainty/#UncRelUncPri
[silk] 500 mile emails, redux
The case of the 500 mile email has been discussed here a decade ago [1] - but I just came across a FAQ page about it [2], which I thought was worth publicising here. :) Udhay [1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silk-list/message/7575 [2] http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail-faq.html -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: The case of the 500 mile email has been discussed here a decade ago [1] - but I just came across a FAQ page about it [2], which I thought was worth publicising here. :) One of these days I should write up the story of the ERP project that I worked on that crashed if the CEO of our company was in the room. Same kind of story. -- b
Re: [silk] 500 mile emails, redux
On 29-May-12 10:02 AM, Biju Chacko wrote: One of these days I should write up the story of the ERP project that I worked on that crashed if the CEO of our company was in the room. Same kind of story. Here's a silklist-worthy project - let us crowdsource a word that will describe this kind of story. Suggestions? Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
