Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbISE9IM5Sk There is no explanation of how that statistic, 38% rise in domestic violence...women being knocked about as a direct result of England being knocked out, was arrived at. I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... Deepa.
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... You (and others) may find this interesting, from the second person I ever emailed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/163G79vq-mFWjIqMb9AzYGbr5Y8YMGcpbSzJRutO8tpw/edit Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
98% of the statistics quoted online are false Including this :-) On 01-Jul-2014 2:54 pm, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbISE9IM5Sk There is no explanation of how that statistic, 38% rise in domestic violence...women being knocked about as a direct result of England being knocked out, was arrived at. I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... Deepa.
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
-Original Message- From: silklist [mailto:silklist-bounces+keith=ksadam@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Deepa Mohan Sent: 01 July 2014 10:24 To: Intelligent Conversation Subject: Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbISE9IM5Sk There is no explanation of how that statistic, 38% rise in domestic violence...women being knocked about as a direct result of England being knocked out, was arrived at. I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... Deepa. The video itself doesn't cite sources for the statistics but it was covered extensively in the GB press. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/08/police-fear-rise-domestic-violence-world-cup http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2671696/Clip-woman-anxiously-watching-football-reveals-domestic-violence-rises-England-exit-World-Cup.html Most articles cite the University of Lancaster study that looked at correlations in police reports from 2002, 2006 and 2010. http://www.research.lancs.ac.uk/portal/en/publications/can-the-fifa-world-cup-football-soccer-tournament-be-associated-with-an-increase-in-domestic-abuse(c773c37b-8f97-48a8-8238-9d6f6c381b35).html Abstract This study aims to establish whether empirical evidence exists to support the anecdotal view that the FIFA world cup football (soccer) tournament can be associated with a rise in reported domestic abuse incidents, when viewed remotely via television. Methods A quantitative analysis, using Poisson and negative binomial regression models looked at monthly and daily domestic abuse incidents reported to a police force in the North West of England across three separate tournaments (2002, 2006, 2010). Results The study found two statistically significant trends. A match day trend showed the risk of domestic abuse rose by 26% when the English national team won or drew, and a 38% increase when the national team lost. Secondly a tournament trend was apparent, as reported domestic abuse incidents increased in frequency with each new tournament. Conclusions Although this is a relatively small study it has significant ramifications due to the global nature of televised football (soccer) tournaments. If replicated it presents significant opportunities to identify and reduce incidents of domestic abuse associated with televised soccer games. Rgds, Keith
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... You (and others) may find this interesting, from the second person I ever emailed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/163G79vq-mFWjIqMb9AzYGbr5Y8YMGcpbSzJRutO8tpw/edit Hmmm. Thank you; will go over it at leisure. Who was the first person you ever emailed, Vod ka Raja?
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
This brings to mind the famous quote: The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never be sure if they're genuine -- Abraham Lincoln On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote: 98% of the statistics quoted online are false Including this :-) On 01-Jul-2014 2:54 pm, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbISE9IM5Sk There is no explanation of how that statistic, 38% rise in domestic violence...women being knocked about as a direct result of England being knocked out, was arrived at. I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... Deepa.
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: Who was the first person you ever emailed, Vod ka Raja? This fellow: https://homes.eff.org/~barlow/ Also see here [1]. Udhay [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/silk-list/conversations/topics/3338 -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: Who was the first person you ever emailed, Vod ka Raja? This fellow: https://homes.eff.org/~barlow/ Also see here [1]. Ah. that was nothing but IC...Idle Curiosity!
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On Tue, 2014-07-01 at 11:49 +0100, Mahesh Murthy wrote: 98% of the statistics quoted online are false Including this :-) On 01-Jul-2014 2:54 pm, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbISE9IM5Sk There is no explanation of how that statistic, 38% rise in domestic violence...women being knocked about as a direct result of England being knocked out, was arrived at. I am getting warier and warier of internet statistics and datathe net seems to be our modern equivalent of the vedas...ask not any question, but accept unhesitatingly... Deepa. The best part about my Uncle Gokul, or should I say my Aunt Kokila (people like to call it Google) is that she will provide answers depending on what you search for. Some people, but ptobably not as high as 98%, think The Guardian is a worthless news portal. Having got that out of the way.. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/08/police-fear-rise-domestic-violence-world-cup Police are issuing personal warnings to men and women with a record of domestic violence in the runup to England's first World Cup game, acting on evidence that abuse against wives, girlfriends and partners spikes dramatically in the aftermath of matches – whether the team wins or loses. The most detailed research into the links between the football World Cup and domestic abuse rates has revealed that in one force area in England and Wales, violent incidents increased by 38% when England lost – but also rose by 26% when they won. The research, by Lancaster University criminologist Dr Stuart Kirby, a former police officer, monitored police reports of domestic violence during the last three World Cups in 2002, 2006 and 2010. While domestic violence rose after each England game, incidents also increased in frequency at each new tournament, raising fears that the forthcoming competition in Brazil – where England's first game is against Italy on Saturday 14 June – could see the highest ever World Cup-related rises in domestic violence across the UK. Separate national research examining the 2010 World Cup echoed the Kirby findings – with domestic abuse reports up 27.7% when the England team won a game, and 31.5% when they lost. The research is being used by some police forces to try to prevent attacks. In Essex, police are putting on extra patrols during and after England's first match and placing domestic violence intelligence teams in police control rooms. In the past few weeks, officers have drawn up a list of 117 high-risk and high-frequency perpetrators – 110 men and seven women – using intelligence drawn from domestic abuse data, risk assessments and football violence data. The individuals will be visited at home by officers and warned not to vent their feelings on their partners. Essex police are also running a high-profile social media and advertising campaign – informed by interviews with victims of domestic abuse – to raise awareness of the crime's prevalence, highlight that victims can be male, female, gay or straight, and call on the public to stand together to fight it.
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
http://www.ukessays.com/essays/criminology/domestic-violence-during-football-season-criminology-essay.php Bebber (2008) documents that for centuries, violence against women and children has not only been tolerated and accepted as normal practice, but it has also been encouraged. In patriarchal societies all over the world, women and children have long been considered to be subservient family members, while males have held dominant roles. Society and laws have often upheld a man’s right to control his family, even by using violence from ancient times to modern day. In patriarchal society, women and children are viewed as properties of husbands. Women are also viewed as being inferior to men on many levels: intellectually, emotionally, physically, sexually and spiritually. Domestic violence is rooted in this view of male dominance within families and in societies that do not value women’s rights. The increase of domestic violence during football seasons has a serious impact on police forces as it pulls officers off of their other duties to deal with the domestic violence calls. In a study by Sachs and Chu (2000) the records of Los Angeles county sheriff department were examined for a 3-year period during which time police units were dispatched in response to 26, 051 domestic violence calls. Several intriguing increases in dispatches were observed over two seasons of football, especially during the 1993-1994 seasons. On football Sundays, dispatches increased 100% from the previous Wednesdays while the playoffs saw a 147% increase. During super bowl week, there was a whopping 264% increase in units dispatched on domestic violence calls.
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
On 01/07/14 14:52, SS wrote: The increase of domestic violence during football seasons has a serious impact on police forces as it pulls officers off of their other duties to deal with the domestic violence calls. Who cares about the damage to abused spouses and children? This WASTES POLICE TIME! ABS -- Alaric Snell-Pym http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/alaric/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [silk] A woman's reaction to England's world cup knock-out
Alaric Snell-Pym wrote: On 01/07/14 14:52, SS wrote: The increase of domestic violence during football seasons has a serious impact on police forces as it pulls officers off of their other duties to deal with the domestic violence calls. Who cares about the damage to abused spouses and children? This WASTES POLICE TIME! Yes, it's a total waste of time to call the police in to deal with damage to chattel property like women and children. Everyone knows the police needs to protect the rights of real people, like corporations and fetuses. --hmm
