Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-13 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:31 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 11:51:54 pm Rishab Ghosh wrote:
 What surprised me was that after I spent some minutes videographing that video
 and uploading it a couple of days later - a friend of mine - who is by all
 accounts very modern and liberal (he is also 25 years younger than I am)
 apparantly got the Rafael stall to pull the video because it offends Hindu
 sensibilities

Offends XYZ sensibilities (insert your favorite cause here) is a
lovely catchphrase that can be used to stop anything and everything. I
recently saw a poster of the movie formerly named Billu Barber. The
new poster just said, Billu. Apparently someone objected to the use
of the word Barber and it was dropped.

Venky



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-12 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Rishab Ghosh wrote:
[snip]
 i loved it too. it was so sad-funny. and low budget. shows a sense of
 humour.

I've tried twice now and I just CAN'T watch past the halfway mark, it just 
hurts too much. And I want to give it a chance - they're trying so hard!

-Taj.



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread Nikhil Mehra
This is wtf-ness of the leave-me-speechless-knock-me-down-with-a-feather
variety. It mocks bollywood in a way in which only someone desperately
trying to imitate and not mock, can. Actually, that bit I don't find
insulting, I find it amusing. Also, apparently our armed forces are
equatable to some kind of damsel in distress that needs Isreali protection.
I mean what's the logic behind this. Why would it work? Why would you do
something this stupid when you want to bid for a contract that is of immense
value?


Nikhil Mehra
Advocate, Supreme Court of India
Tel: (+91) 9810776904
Res: C-I/10 AIIMS Campus
Ansari Nagar
New Delhi - 110029.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:54 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 8:34:46 am Venkat Mangudi wrote:
  ss wrote:
   On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009 3:14:28 pm gabin kattukaran wrote:
   On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
   http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html
 
  Now I can't get the tune out of my head.

 It had the same effect on me. After I put it up on Youtube - I was
 surprised
 to find that it initially got a lot of hits form China of all places. Right
 now most of the views are from South Korea.

 shiv




Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Nikhil Mehra nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, apparently our armed forces are
 equatable to some kind of damsel in distress that needs Isreali protection.

My interpretation was that Israel would like to do to the Indian armed
forces what the guy would like to do (to) the damsels in the video.

Thaths
-- 
   You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel. -- Homer J. Simpson



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread ss
On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 8:25:00 pm Nikhil Mehra wrote:
 This is wtf-ness of the leave-me-speechless-knock-me-down-with-a-feather
 variety. It mocks bollywood in a way in which only someone desperately
 trying to imitate and not mock, can. Actually, that bit I don't find
 insulting, I find it amusing. Also, apparently our armed forces are
 equatable to some kind of damsel in distress that needs Isreali protection.
 I mean what's the logic behind this. Why would it work? Why would you do
 something this stupid when you want to bid for a contract that is of
 immense value?

:D

I seem to be in a minority.

I liked the video as a bit of fun. It all depends on how yo erad the 
symbolism. If you look at ethe girl as India and the man as Israel all these 
objections could arise. 

But I think you need to look at the company Rafael promoting its missiles to a 
end user together forever - I'll hold you in my heart

Like I said I loved the video. It's original if nothing else. 

shiv



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread Nikhil Mehra
:D

I seem to be in a minority.

I liked the video as a bit of fun. It all depends on how yo erad the
symbolism. If you look at ethe girl as India and the man as Israel all these
objections could arise.

But I think you need to look at the company Rafael promoting its missiles to
a
end user together forever - I'll hold you in my heart

Like I said I loved the video. It's original if nothing else.

I totally get this perspective but I felt that this isn;t the kind of topic
or industry in which innovative ways to make your point are necessary. I
can't imagine a committee of generals or other high-ups in the armed forces
being even mildly amused by this. Hence, I thought it was self-defeating.





Nikhil Mehra
Advocate, Supreme Court of India
Tel: (+91) 9810776904
Res: C-I/10 AIIMS Campus
Ansari Nagar
New Delhi - 110029.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:51 PM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 8:25:00 pm Nikhil Mehra wrote:
  This is wtf-ness of the leave-me-speechless-knock-me-down-with-a-feather
  variety. It mocks bollywood in a way in which only someone desperately
  trying to imitate and not mock, can. Actually, that bit I don't find
  insulting, I find it amusing. Also, apparently our armed forces are
  equatable to some kind of damsel in distress that needs Isreali
 protection.
  I mean what's the logic behind this. Why would it work? Why would you do
  something this stupid when you want to bid for a contract that is of
  immense value?

 :D

 I seem to be in a minority.

 I liked the video as a bit of fun. It all depends on how yo erad the
 symbolism. If you look at ethe girl as India and the man as Israel all
 these
 objections could arise.

 But I think you need to look at the company Rafael promoting its missiles
 to a
 end user together forever - I'll hold you in my heart

 Like I said I loved the video. It's original if nothing else.

 shiv




Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread Vinit B
  Also, apparently our armed forces are
  equatable to some kind of damsel in distress that needs Isreali
 protection.
 
 My interpretation was that Israel would like to do to the Indian armed
 forces what the guy would like to do (to) the damsels in the video.
 
 Thaths

For some reason, I couldn't bring myself to see the whole video. It may have
had something to do with how utterly crappy it looked.

I mean, sure, someone in the Israeli company decided they wanted to get this
video made.
But why the heck not go and hire a decent Bollywood music director to do it.
Heck, even a decent any-wood director.

This is like IBM trying to market it's supercomputers with mailed postcards!

Just not the right medium for the target market.

- Vinit




Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread Rishab Ghosh
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:51:01PM +0530, ss wrote:
 Like I said I loved the video. It's original if nothing else. 

i loved it too. it was so sad-funny. and low budget. shows a sense of humour. 
but a poor judgement of the customer, since i don't think indian defence 
bureaucrats (or for that matter, israeli defence bureaucrats) share that 
humour. must have been made by a couple of kids from the draft.

-r




Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread Andre Uratsuka Manoel
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Rishab Ghosh ris...@dxm.org wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:51:01PM +0530, ss wrote:
 Like I said I loved the video. It's original if nothing else.

 i loved it too. it was so sad-funny. and low budget. shows a sense of humour. 
 but a poor judgement of the customer, since i don't think indian defence 
 bureaucrats (or for that matter, israeli defence bureaucrats) share that 
 humour. must have been made by a couple of kids from the draft.

OTOH, maybe the israelis know something about your defence bureaucrats
that you don't.

Andre



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread ss
On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 9:29:13 pm Nikhil Mehra wrote:
 I totally get this perspective but I felt that this isn;t the kind of topic
 or industry in which innovative ways to make your point are necessary. I
 can't imagine a committee of generals or other high-ups in the armed forces
 being even mildly amused by this. Hence, I thought it was self-defeating.

I think they did it as timepass for the public. They have figured out that a 
huge number of visitors are just curious onlookers and enthusiasts.

Israeli stalls tend to have fairly dramatic videos of mayhem from the 
thousands of action videos they have. Those were there too as usual - but 
they have seta precedent and I wonder if someone will learn from them and do 
something similar.

shiv





Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-11 Thread ss
On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 11:51:54 pm Rishab Ghosh wrote:
 i loved it too. it was so sad-funny. and low budget. shows a sense of
 humour. but a poor judgement of the customer, since i don't think indian
 defence bureaucrats (or for that matter, israeli defence bureaucrats) share
 that humour. must have been made by a couple of kids from the draft.

What surprised me was that after I spent some minutes videographing that video 
and uploading it a couple of days later - a friend of mine - who is by all 
accounts very modern and liberal (he is also 25 years younger than I am) 
apparantly got the Rafael stall to pull the video because it offends Hindu 
sensibilities

Obviously there seem to be many things that offend many people. But frankly I 
did not find the video any worse than scores other song and dance sequences 
that expose themselves to me as I live my life.

shiv




Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-10 Thread gabin kattukaran
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html

this one seems to have been removed as well

-gabin

-- 

Bob Hope  - Middle age is when your age starts to show around your middle.



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-10 Thread ss
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009 3:14:28 pm gabin kattukaran wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html

 this one seems to have been removed as well

 -gabin

Try again - the server may have been overloaded or something - YouTube 
sometimes does that. I just checked - it's still there.

shiv



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-10 Thread Venkat Mangudi
ss wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009 3:14:28 pm gabin kattukaran wrote:
   
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html
   
Now I can't get the tune out of my head.



Re: [silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-10 Thread ss
On Wednesday 11 Mar 2009 8:34:46 am Venkat Mangudi wrote:
 ss wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009 3:14:28 pm gabin kattukaran wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html

 Now I can't get the tune out of my head.

It had the same effect on me. After I put it up on Youtube - I was surprised 
to find that it initially got a lot of hits form China of all places. Right 
now most of the views are from South Korea.

shiv



[silk] Dinga Dee

2009-03-09 Thread ss
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html

I had earlier put up (on YouTube) a far worse quality video of the same thing 
at Israel's Rafael stall at Aero India.  A friend of mine (an exhibitor) 
later told me that he had the video removed as it offended Indian 
sensibilities)

I don't know. I thought it was funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKJ63lihmEw

shiv