Re: [silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-17 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Julian Philips jazzmob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sidin,
 Very touching article.
 http://www.livemint.com/2011/07/15204615/Thief-in-the-night.html?h=D


A article on the Mumbai Spirit
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/07/bombing-in-mumbai.html

Over the years, my thoughts have gone from pride about it to thinking
it is plain insensitivity and indifference to loss of human lives.

-- Vinayak



Re: [silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Yes. The mumbai spirit is simply nothing happened to me or mine, so I don't 
care a shit

That city stinks as much for its attitude as much for its squalor

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On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Julian Philips jazzmob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sidin,
 Very touching article.
 http://www.livemint.com/2011/07/15204615/Thief-in-the-night.html?h=D


A article on the Mumbai Spirit
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/07/bombing-in-mumbai.html

Over the years, my thoughts have gone from pride about it to thinking
it is plain insensitivity and indifference to loss of human lives.

-- Vinayak



-- 
srs (blackberry)



Re: [silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-17 Thread ss
On Sunday 17 Jul 2011 12:05:30 pm Vinayak Hegde wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Julian Philips jazzmob...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  Sidin,
  Very touching article.
  http://www.livemint.com/2011/07/15204615/Thief-in-the-night.html?h=D
 
 A article on the Mumbai Spirit
 http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/07/bombing-in-mumbai.ht
 ml
 
 Over the years, my thoughts have gone from pride about it to thinking
 it is plain insensitivity and indifference to loss of human lives.
 
 -- Vinayak
 
Mumai spirit is pure bullshit. If someone breaks my leg today - I will still 
need to limp to the toilet tomorrow. That is not spirit, its necessity. 

I think Mumbai is a badly mismanaged city where the politcians are clearly a 
nexus with criminal. This is an open secret.

Elewhere I was doing a comparison of the population desity, police to 
population ratio and other parameters of Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata and Chennai. 
Mumbai does not come out as the worst in any of these parameters. Yet Mumbai 
is the one that takes the hits.

I am certain it is piss poor governance with Pawarful people at the helm. 
The city neeeds a serious clean up. 

shiv



Re: [silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-17 Thread gabin kattukaran
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 12:17 PM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
 Elewhere I was doing a comparison of the population desity, police to
 population ratio and other parameters of Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata and Chennai.
 Mumbai does not come out as the worst in any of these parameters. Yet Mumbai
 is the one that takes the hits.

 I am certain it is piss poor governance with Pawarful people at the helm.
 The city neeeds a serious clean up.


Are you suggesting that other cities would fare better if they were
hit as often?  Or that the reason they are not hit as often is they
are doing the right things?

-gabin


-- 

measure with a micrometer, mark with a chalk, cut with an axe



Re: [silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-16 Thread Julian Philips
Sidin,
Very touching article.

http://www.livemint.com/2011/07/15204615/Thief-in-the-night.html?h=D


Re: [silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-14 Thread ss
On Wednesday 13 Jul 2011 8:26:52 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote:
 Three confirmed blasts so far. Phone lines unreliable, as far as I can
 tell. Twitter is going insane (look for the hashtags #MumbaiBlasts
 #mumbai #mumbaihelp for news)
 
Copy-paste:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-07/uom-uta
Understanding terror attacks in India
Recent advances in computer science at the University of Maryland cast fresh 
light on terrorism in India 
COLLEGE PARK, Md. – Recent advances in computer science at the University of 
Maryland's Laboratory for Computational Cultural Dynamics cast fresh light on 
terrorism in India, such as yesterday's coordinated attacks in Mumbai. Some 
important conclusions from two forthcoming papers, accepted for publication at 
the 2011 European Conference on Intelligence Security Informatics and the 2011 
Open Source Intelligence Conference in September 2011, suggest that reining in 
terror groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), who carried out the devastating 
Mumbai attacks in Nov. 2008, can be done only with concurrent action by the 
United States and India and a reduction in US aid to Pakistan. 
In order to understand how terrorism from groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba can 
be reduced, University of Maryland researchers led by Computer Science 
Professor V.S. Subrahmanian developed a number of mathematical models 
including stochastic opponent modeling agents and multi-player game theoretic 
models. The research team developed studied 5 entities – the US, India, the 
Pakistani military (including the Inter Services Intelligence agency), the 
Pakistani civilian government (not including the military or ISI), and 
Lashkar-e-Taiba. 
The researchers looked for Nash equilibria, named after Nobel-prize winning 
economist John Nash, whose life was immortalized in the Oscar-winning movie, A 
Beautiful Mind. Intuitively, Nash equilibria specify situations where no 
entity involved in the game theoretic model can ``do better'' without 
upsetting another agency. We did not find a single Nash equilibrium in which 
LeT exhibits good behavior in which the US expands financial aid to Pakistan, 
said Subrahmanian, who went on to remark that This is consistent with the 
recent decision by the Obama administration to cut $800M in military aid to 
Pakistan. 
Nevertheless, this would not be sufficient to de-fang groups like LeT that are 
reportedly funded by Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency, explained University 
of Maryland counter-terrorism analyst Aaron Mannes. The recent court trial in 
Chicago of two alleged LeT operatives, David Headley and Tahawwur Rana, 
strongly suggests an ISI hand in the deadly Mumbai terrorist attack in Nov. 
2008. 
In addition to the results about trimming financial aid to Pakistan, we also 
found that there was not a single Nash equilibrium in which LeT exhibits good 
behavior in which both the US and India did not concurrently take either 
covert action against LeT and/or exercise coercive diplomacy toward Pakistan, 
said John Dickerson, a University of Maryland scientist who is also earning a 
doctorate at Carnegie-Mellon University. 
The results do not imply that the US and India need to coordinate actions – 
just that the actions need to occur over an overlapping period of time that is 
sufficiently long to convince both the Pakistani military and the LeT that 
terrorist actions will not pay, said Subrahmanian. 
In addition to researching Lashkar-e-Taiba, the University of Maryland team 
has also used their data mining algorithms to learn models of the behavior of 
other terrorist groups in the Indian sub-continent such as Jaish-e-Mohammed in 
Pakistan and the Indian Mujahideen – alleged by some to be responsible for 
yesterday's triple bombings in Mumbai that killed over 20 people. 
Though it is too early to identify the perpetrators of yesterday's Mumbai 
attacks, computational models and algorithms can help decision makers shape 
improved counter-terrorism strategies and policies for threat reduction, said 
Subrahmanian.
###
V.S. Subrahmanian; J. Dickerson, A. Mannes, A. Sliva, J. Shakarian. University 
of Maryland 
The University of Maryland Laboratory for Computational Cultural Dynamics LCCD 
web site is at http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/research/LCCD/ and features a link at 
the very top to ongoing work on the LeT terrorist group 
(http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/research/LCCD/projects/let.jsp). 
Researcher Contacts: 
V.S. Subrahmanian 
Professor - Computer Science Dept.  UMIACS 
 Director - Center for Digital International Government 
Co-Director - Lab for Computational Cultural Dynamics 
University of Maryland 
College Park, MD 20742. 
Tel: (301) 405 6724 
Email: v...@cs.umd.edu 
URL: www.cs.umd.edu/~vs/ 
Aaron Wolf Mannes 
Researcher/Counter-Terrorism Analyst 
CMNS-Institute for Advanced Computer Studies 
University of Maryland, College Park, MD 
(301) 405-8639 
aman...@umd.edu 


[silk] Mumbai blasts again

2011-07-13 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Three confirmed blasts so far. Phone lines unreliable, as far as I can
tell. Twitter is going insane (look for the hashtags #MumbaiBlasts
#mumbai #mumbaihelp for news)

Udhay
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