Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
I'm actually worried about OpenOffice - the one interesting bastion against MS Office. What do you think might happen here? On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? Oracle hasn't done bad in the past few years on Linux. Their contributions to the kernel have been pretty active. I'm more concerned on the vast patent portfolio Sun has. Hopefully they do not see anything capitalistic out of it and open it up ;-). But how much of the patent portfolio does matter in this kinda acquisition ? regards -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: I still can't figure out _what_ exactly they were after -- it's obviously some part of Sun's software business, but which? The same reason they came up with Unbreakable, may be? The idea of just one SLA covering the whole stack including servers, OS, database, middleware, and business apps must be quite compelling to enterprises, and Oracle can offer them that now. Venkat.
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Venky TV venky...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I am concerned about OpenSolaris. Solaris as an operating system probably has a brighter future under Oracle than before, but the OpenSolaris project does not seem to make too much sense for Oracle. I don't see them being too interested in an Ubuntu-like desktop-friendly OS being developed out in the open. Solaris might just go back to being a closed-source big iron operating system, which would be a terrible shame. Hmmm. I'd like Solaris to be an open-source, big-iron OS. The concept of Solaris on the desktop has always disturbed me, it's like err the Pope featuring in Playboy. In (related?) news, J.G.Ballard, author of 'Empire of the Sun' passed away on Sunday. plug My cartoon on the Oracle-Sun acquisition : http://iyermatter.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/oracle-buys-sun/ /plug -Jai As for MySQL, I just don't know. It is kind of like the Vatican picking up Playboy, Inc. It might make sense to keep it going from a business perspective, but something *just* does not seem right. Venky (the Second). -- One hundred thousand lemmings can't be wrong.
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Jai Iyer iyer@gmail.com wrote: [...] plug My cartoon on the Oracle-Sun acquisition : http://iyermatter.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/oracle-buys-sun/ /plug Shame on you for making IBM look cuddly. Bonus points to you if you redraw the cartoon to make Larry Ellison look like the Dr. Strangelove riding the bomb - http://blog.seattlepi.com/art/library/bombstrangelove.jpg :-) Loved the drawing btw... Cheeni
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
Jai Iyer wrote: Hmmm. I'd like Solaris to be an open-source, big-iron OS. The concept of Solaris on the desktop has always disturbed me, it's like err the Pope featuring in Playboy. The OpenSolaris features will migrate to the enterprise (Solaris is already there, of course), but the OpenSolaris desktop is coming along quite nicely, actually. It hasn`t even been a year. More time needed. But this desktop question has always been interesting. The desktop was never the exclusive goal for Sun, but there is a distribution of OpenSolaris that is focused exclusively on the desktop and general users -- in other words, Windows users. It`s called Jaris. It`s in Japan and it`s independent from Sun. It`s pretty slick. And it`s getting huge attention here in Tokyo for a new distro. Should be an interesting experiment for a distro to take the OpenSolaris kernel directly to Windows uses in a well contained market using positioning Sun would be rather unfamiliar with. Don`t be surprised if that Pope turns out to be Japanese. Things can get pretty sexy in Tokyo, you know ... :) Jim
[silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? -- b
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? Oracle as the steward of Java is an idea that definitely sucks. Venky
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? -- b What they do with MySQL and Open Solaris would be interesting to know . Lets hope Oracle does not undo all the Open Source initiatives of Sun, that would be disastrous ! - Valsa
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? What's amusing is to watch all the prognosticators making authoritative-sounding but contradictory and entirely speculative pronouncements as to what the future will hold. -Tim
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Valsa Williams valsa.willi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? -- b What they do with MySQL and Open Solaris would be interesting to know . Lets hope Oracle does not undo all the Open Source initiatives of Sun, that would be disastrous ! Personally, I am concerned about OpenSolaris. Solaris as an operating system probably has a brighter future under Oracle than before, but the OpenSolaris project does not seem to make too much sense for Oracle. I don't see them being too interested in an Ubuntu-like desktop-friendly OS being developed out in the open. Solaris might just go back to being a closed-source big iron operating system, which would be a terrible shame. As for MySQL, I just don't know. It is kind of like the Vatican picking up Playboy, Inc. It might make sense to keep it going from a business perspective, but something *just* does not seem right. Venky (the Second). -- One hundred thousand lemmings can't be wrong.
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Venky TV venky...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I am concerned about OpenSolaris. Solaris as an operating system probably has a brighter future under Oracle than before, but the OpenSolaris project does not seem to make too much sense for Oracle. I don't see them being too interested in an Ubuntu-like desktop-friendly OS being developed out in the open. Solaris might just go back to being a closed-source big iron operating system, which would be a terrible shame. Might make some amount of sense if they intend to challenge Microsoft in the OS business. As for MySQL, I just don't know. It is kind of like the Vatican picking up Playboy, Inc. It might make sense to keep it going from a business perspective, but something *just* does not seem right. I still can't figure out _what_ exactly they were after -- it's obviously some part of Sun's software business, but which? -- b
Re: [silk] Oracle Agrees to Acquire Sun
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/technology/companies/21sun.html?ref=business Well ... what to the Sun and ex-Sun folks on the list think of this? Oracle hasn't done bad in the past few years on Linux. Their contributions to the kernel have been pretty active. I'm more concerned on the vast patent portfolio Sun has. Hopefully they do not see anything capitalistic out of it and open it up ;-). But how much of the patent portfolio does matter in this kinda acquisition ? regards -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090
