Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-17 Thread Indrajit Gupta

Read me at:

--- On Wed, 15/12/10, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
Subject: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful 
for last-minute travel
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wednesday, 15 December, 2010, 22:13

Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on Timatic 
doing up this list.
Then thought it might be of value to others too.


I think it's reasonably accurate as of today - but please do check things 
yourself when you make a plan.


PS: I actually LOVE travel planning - too bad I don't know how to make it pay 
well :-)

Very nice; very nice indeed.






[silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on
Timatic doing up this list.

Then thought it might be of value to others too.

I think it's reasonably accurate as of today - but please do check things
yourself when you make a plan.

PS: I actually LOVE travel planning - too bad I don't know how to make it
pay well :-)


Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on Timatic 
 doing up this list.
 Then thought it might be of value to others too.
 I think it's reasonably accurate as of today - but please do check things 
 yourself when you make a plan.
 PS: I actually LOVE travel planning - too bad I don't know how to make it pay 
 well :-)

I knew travel is difficult/painful for people with an Indian passport.
I did not realize the countries where Indians could enter easily (visa
free/visa on arrival) was a null set.

Thaths
--
Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
Marge: That's CCR!
Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
Sudhakar Chandra                                    Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I knew travel is difficult/painful for people with an Indian passport.
 I did not realize the countries where Indians could enter easily (visa
 free/visa on arrival) was a null set.

BTW, whether a country is particularly easy for an Indian to travel to
is not a binary. Some countries issue visas on arrival only at select
ports of entry. For e.g., a US passport holder can enter Thailand
through any port of entry which is open to foreigners. But Indian
passport holders have to apply for visa on arrival and this is only
available in a few ports of entry.

Thaths
-- 
Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
Marge: That's CCR!
Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
Sudhakar Chandra                                    Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on
 Timatic doing up this list.


muchas gracias.

Indians can also get a Burmese Visa on arrival. I am so tempted to go to
Burma (Myanmar). It is on my list for so long :)
I love travel planning as well. I think that almost half the fun of
traveling itself.

In the spirit of thread hijacking ;-) , what are the travel sites that
silklisters use for travel research ?

-- Vinayak


Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mahesh Murthy 
 mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on
 Timatic doing up this list.


 muchas gracias.

 Indians can also get a Burmese Visa on arrival. I am so tempted to go to
 Burma (Myanmar). It is on my list for so long :)
 I love travel planning as well. I think that almost half the fun of
 traveling itself.


I thought so too.

AirIndia Holidays, on their site had claimed so.

But Timatic says no:
http://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1VISA=page=visaNA=INAR=00PASSTYPES=PASSDE=MMuser=DLsubuser=DELTAB2C



 In the spirit of thread hijacking ;-) , what are the travel sites that
 silklisters use for travel research ?


Thorntree.lonelyplanet.com


Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:


 I did not realize the countries where Indians could enter easily (visa
 free/visa on arrival) was a null set.


58 countries isn't exactly a null set :-)


Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy


 Indians can also get a Burmese Visa on arrival. I am so tempted to go to
 Burma (Myanmar). It is on my list for so long :)
 I love travel planning as well. I think that almost half the fun of
 traveling itself.


 I thought so too.

 AirIndia Holidays, on their site had claimed so.

 But Timatic says no:
 http://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1VISA=page=visaNA=INAR=00PASSTYPES=PASSDE=MMuser=DLsubuser=DELTAB2C




Apparently a new system was put in May 2010:
http://www.myanmar2day.com/myanmar-news/2010/05/myanmar-visa-on-arrival/

http://www.myanmar2day.com/myanmar-news/2010/05/myanmar-visa-on-arrival/But,
equally apparently it was discontinued a few months later:
http://www.airasia.com/mm/en/latestnews/VisaOnArrivalDiscontinued.html

http://www.airasia.com/mm/en/latestnews/VisaOnArrivalDiscontinued.htmlThe
Generals changed their minds, I guess.




 In the spirit of thread hijacking ;-) , what are the travel sites that
 silklisters use for travel research ?


 Thorntree.lonelyplanet.com





Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Indians can also get a Burmese Visa on arrival. I am so tempted to go to
 Burma (Myanmar). It is on my list for so long :)
 I love travel planning as well. I think that almost half the fun of
 traveling itself.

A partial list of countries which have visa-free or visa-on-arrival
options for Indian citizens:

Lao PDR (visa on arrival at select border crossings)
Hong Kong SAR (visa free)
Macau SAR
Kenya (visa on arrival)
Tanzania
Fiji (visa free)
Nepal (visa free)

Thaths
-- 
Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
Marge: That's CCR!
Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
Sudhakar Chandra                                    Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on
 Timatic doing up this list.

 muchas gracias.

 Indians can also get a Burmese Visa on arrival. I am so tempted to go to
 Burma (Myanmar). It is on my list for so long :)
 I love travel planning as well. I think that almost half the fun of
 traveling itself.

 I thought so too.
 AirIndia Holidays, on their site had claimed so.
 But Timatic says
 no: http://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1VISA=page=visaNA=INAR=00PASSTYPES=PASSDE=MMuser=DLsubuser=DELTAB2C

 In the spirit of thread hijacking ;-) , what are the travel sites that
 silklisters use for travel research ?

 Thorntree.lonelyplanet.com

Other than thorntree I use http://www.indiamike.com/,
http://www.bootsnall.com/, couchsurfing and wikitravel.
Being a photography hobbyist, I use flickr to find about unusual
places. It has led me WWII war-time child graves in Latvia (which many
locals did not know)[1] and precarious cliffs over Norwegian fjords
such as Preikestolen.[2]

-- Vinayak
1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinayakh/sets/72157623676188760/
2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinayakh/sets/72157624057289208/



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I did not realize the countries where Indians could enter easily (visa
 free/visa on arrival) was a null set.
 58 countries isn't exactly a null set :-)

My misunderstanding. I read your email to mean Here is a list...
instead of Please send me a list.

S.
-- 
Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
Marge: That's CCR!
Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
Sudhakar Chandra                                    Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Sorry for top-posting. Phone doesnt allow otherwise.

Perhaps you didnt get the image in the earlier mail which comprehensively
listed 58 countries that allowed Indians visa-free and visa-on-arrival
travel?
On 15 Dec 2010 22:59, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Indians can also get a Burmese Visa on arrival. I am so tempted to go to
 Burma (Myanmar). It is on my list for so long :)
 I love travel planning as well. I think that almost half the fun of
 traveling itself.

 A partial list of countries which have visa-free or visa-on-arrival
 options for Indian citizens:

 Lao PDR (visa on arrival at select border crossings)
 Hong Kong SAR (visa free)
 Macau SAR
 Kenya (visa on arrival)
 Tanzania
 Fiji (visa free)
 Nepal (visa free)

 Thaths
 --
 Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
 Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
 Marge: That's CCR!
 Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
 Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without
Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 15 December 2010 22:27, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the spirit of thread hijacking ;-) , what are the travel sites that
 silklisters use for travel research ?

matrix2.itasoftware.com.

Love being able to generate booking codes and sending to travel agent!

Ram



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Sriram Karra
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on
 Timatic doing up this list.

 muchas gracias.

Are Thaths and I the only ones who did not find a list of countries
in Mahesh's original mail? Weird.



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Aadisht Khanna
On 15-12-2010 22:52, Thaths wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I did not realize the countries where Indians could enter easily (visa
 free/visa on arrival) was a null set.
 58 countries isn't exactly a null set :-)
 
 My misunderstanding. I read your email to mean Here is a list...
 instead of Please send me a list.

Thaths, the list is an image on an external server that your client is
not displaying.


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Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Lahar Appaiah
Some problems with the image. I had to click on Display Images below.

Mahesh- does this exclude business travelers? I've got visas on arrival in a
couple of other countries.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry for top-posting. Phone doesnt allow otherwise.

 Perhaps you didnt get the image in the earlier mail which comprehensively
 listed 58 countries that allowed Indians visa-free and visa-on-arrival
 travel?




Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Perhaps you didnt get the image in the earlier mail which comprehensively
 listed 58 countries that allowed Indians visa-free and visa-on-arrival
 travel?

Ah, ha! That explains it. I have my mail reader configured not to show
inline images in emails.

S.
-- 
Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
Marge: That's CCR!
Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
Sudhakar Chandra                                    Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Sriram Karra
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for top-posting. Phone doesnt allow otherwise.

 Perhaps you didnt get the image in the earlier mail which comprehensively
 listed 58 countries that allowed Indians visa-free and visa-on-arrival
 travel?

Ah! Yes, and No. Gmail did not display the image by default; and I
missed the un-obtrusive note that said there's an image that gmail has
hidden from view. Most excellent, thanks.



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy
No probs :-)
On 15 Dec 2010 23:13, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I did not realize the countries where Indians could enter easily (visa
 free/visa on arrival) was a null set.
 58 countries isn't exactly a null set :-)

 My misunderstanding. I read your email to mean Here is a list...
 instead of Please send me a list.

 S.
 --
 Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
 Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
 Marge: That's CCR!
 Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
 Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without
Borders



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Salil Tripathi
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Sriram Karra ska...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Figuring out where to go this weekend onwards, I spent a few hours on
 Timatic doing up this list.

 muchas gracias.

 Are Thaths and I the only ones who did not find a list of countries
 in Mahesh's original mail? Weird.



Say accept images from Mahesh (or words to that effect), and then,
like the Word, it shall reveal itself.

Salil



Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Mahesh Murthy

On Dec 15, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Lahar Appaiah thew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some problems with the image. I had to click on Display Images below.
 
 Mahesh- does this exclude business travelers? I've got visas on arrival in a 
 couple of other countries.
 

I deliberately excluded business visas because in virtually all cases the 
eligibility to get this visa is more complex and difficult than that for 
tourist travel. But once you DO have a business visa, especially one from UK, 
US or Schengen life becomes much easier. See the columns below for the access 
you enjoy.

As I understand it, you're free to be a tourist on a business visa but not vice 
versa.

Regards,

Mahesh




Re: [silk] Visa-free and visa-on-arrival travel for Indians: maybe useful for last-minute travel

2010-12-15 Thread Balaji Dutt
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram 
r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote:

 matrix2.itasoftware.com.

 Love being able to generate booking codes and sending to travel agent!

 Ram


Thanks for the link - being able to quickly check fares from different
issuing locations is very convenient. Not to mention the distinct lack of
pop-ups/pop-unders.

Bonus: iOS  Android app!

--
Balaji