Re: [silk] most important science stories of 2006

2007-01-03 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6191462.stm

It says:

 The delicate workings at the heart of 
 a 2,000-year-old analogue computer...
 
 ... the new studies ... suggest it would 
 have been constructed around 100-150 BC...

So: 

The Antikythera findings are the same sort of thing that was reported a
few years earlier in other archeological studies.

As it was a device for computing, it seems appropriate to call it a
computer.

It was much closer to 2000 than to 3000 year ago.

While these recent studies are interesting, it has been pretty obvious
for a long time that fairly sophisticated equipment was used in the
hellenistic period, in an area extending from Greece to Sicily (e.g.
Archimedes) and, of course, including ptolemaic Egypt.

So there isn't any new discovery dating the whole thing 800 or 900
years earlier... simply a reporter or editor made a gross mistake in
arithmetic?

There is a lot of such nonsense around, but it's peculiar to see it
happen when discussing science and computing...

Giancarlo

(Giancarlo Livraghi  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://gandalf.it)




[silk] Most important science stories of 2006

2007-01-02 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Somebody had to start the best of postings. :)

Udhay

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004articleID=9C4685FE-E7F2-99DF-365095BE29603DBFref=rss

Most Important Science Stories of 2006
Humans controlled computers with the power of thought, built an 
invisibility cloak, cracked the mystery of a 3,000-year-old computer, 
discovered a new element, unearthed a missing link and kicked Pluto 
out of the planet

club--and those are just the highlights.

snip
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))




Re: [silk] most important science stories of 2006

2007-01-02 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi
 ... cracked the mystery of 
 a 3,000-year-old computer... 

I am interested in the 3000-year-old computer story, but I can't find
any explanation in that Scientific American page - nor any link to a
specific article.  I tried with Google, but all I found was more of the
same.

(There were reports, in 2004, on complex mechanical computing machines
in the hellenistic period - but that was less than 3000 year ago).

Does anyone know here there may be more information on this subject?

Thanks

Giancarlo

(Giancarlo Livraghi) (gian @ gandalf.it) (http://gandalf.it).







Re: [silk] most important science stories of 2006

2007-01-02 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2007-01-02 17:45:17 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am interested in the 3000-year-old computer story, but I
 can't find any explanation in that Scientific American page

I didn't read the article, but surely it's referring to the Antikythera
mechanism (which is, as you say, considerably less than 3000 years old).

-- ams



Re: [silk] most important science stories of 2006

2007-01-02 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan

On 1/2/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 2007-01-02 17:45:17 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am interested in the 3000-year-old computer story, but I
 can't find any explanation in that Scientific American page

I didn't read the article, but surely it's referring to the Antikythera
mechanism (which is, as you say, considerably less than 3000 years old).


Yes, I thought so too, I remember reading about it at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6191462.stm

Cheeni



Re: [silk] most important science stories of 2006

2007-01-02 Thread shiv sastry
On Wednesday 03 Jan 2007 8:25 am, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
 Yes, I thought so too, I remember reading about it at
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6191462.stm

Quote from the above link:

Researchers believe these would have been housed in a rectangular wooden 
frame with two doors, covered in instructions for its use. The complete 
calculator would have been driven by a hand crank.

Hmm - complete with manual and all. Do you think the instructions would have 
come in Chinese as well?

I would have thought that such ingenuous people would have utilized the 
services of a certified sane person to drive the calculator rather than a 
crank.

shiv