Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17

2011-02-17 Thread Pranesh Prakash

On Wednesday 16 February 2011 05:19 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:

I don't see the relevance to this discussion, so I'll digress to say
that it always annoys me when Postel is quoted to justify accepting all
sorts of malformed nonsense in protocol implementations. The idea is to
be accepting where there is some ambiguity or different interpretations
of the standard, not to accept things which are outright invalid.


Postel's Law/Maxim/Prescription/Whathaveyou has often been quoted for 
things other than protocol implementation, including netiquette and as a 
general good principle of liberalism:


http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855


Abstract

   This document provides a minimum set of guidelines for Network
   Etiquette (Netiquette) which organizations may take and adapt for
   their own use.  As such, it is deliberately written in a bulleted
   format to make adaptation easier and to make any particular item easy
   (or easier) to find.  It also functions as a minimum set of
   guidelines for individuals, both users and administrators.  This memo
   is the product of the Responsible Use of the Network (RUN) Working
   Group of the IETF.




- A good rule of thumb:  Be conservative in what you send and
  liberal in what you receive.  You should not send heated messages
  (we call these flames) even if you are provoked.  On the other
  hand, you shouldn't be surprised if you get flamed and it's
  prudent not to respond to flames.




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Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17

2011-02-16 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-02-15 17:26:54 +0530, j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 15-Feb-2011, at 2:54 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
 
  This talk of shenanigans and bandwidth conservation reminded me
  of Postel's Prescription: “Be liberal in what you accept, and
  conservative in what you send”.[1]

I don't see the relevance to this discussion, so I'll digress to say
that it always annoys me when Postel is quoted to justify accepting all
sorts of malformed nonsense in protocol implementations. The idea is to
be accepting where there is some ambiguity or different interpretations
of the standard, not to accept things which are outright invalid.

  [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/Postels-Prescription.html

 Better known as Postel's Law or the Robustness Principle. Postel's
 Prescription is new usage for me.

It's probably just something ESR made up.

-- ams



Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17

2011-02-15 Thread Pranesh Prakash

On Tuesday 15 February 2011 02:43 PM, Dave Long wrote:

singularity may not be the most interesting concept for a mailing
list, but shenanigans are a waste of bandwidth.


This talk of shenanigans and bandwidth conservation reminded me of 
Postel's Prescription: “Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative 
in what you send”.[1]


 [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/Postels-Prescription.html



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Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17

2011-02-15 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 15-Feb-2011, at 2:54 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:

 This talk of shenanigans and bandwidth conservation reminded me of Postel's 
 Prescription: “Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you 
 send”.[1]
 
 [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/Postels-Prescription.html

Better known as Postel's Law or the Robustness Principle. Postel's 
Prescription is new usage for me. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle