CSFw: CSMaking CS
Very well put. I joined this forum to learn how to incorporate CS into my family's diet, as I'm sure many others on this forum did. Naturally, I would like to know the best way to make CS. And although I don't totally discount all of this tech talk, I fear (and hesitate to say) that our tech gurus on this forum may tend to forget the many more of us here on this forum who are not as technically inclined. I WANT to understand and learn about the latest processes and protocols, etc...but much of the detailed information being bandied about here recently is just way over my head. sigh! My post here is simply to back-up what Russ said about the benefits of CS without abstruse details and to thank Terry for his courage to post his original msg which perhaps serves, if for nothing else, to remind our valued tech gurus to please not forget us simple-minded folks on the forum. hlee -Original Message- From: russ e rosser russros...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 4:08 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS Terry is justified in focussing on pragmatism for laymen who need the benefits of CS without abstruse details. OTOH, efforts toward refining good processes into better ones can yield unexpected discoveries. Until the way to *perfect heath* is attained--yea, even to immortality--we must not abandon pure science experimentation; esp. while there's still much to learn about bio-interactivity between health, microbes, oxygen, chemicals and various forms intensties of ENERGY. --Russ On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Terry Wayne tw...@yahoo.com writes: Listers, I know I will probably get blasted by the techies for this, but it's my opinions and conclusions on the subject of making CS. Also, it has worked perfectly for me. But I am probably shooting at a sacred cow. Terry Wayne Colloidal Silver Brewing Instructions: The first question is, how much CS do you want to make at a time? If you are only going to use it topically, or occasionally put a little in a drink - say, to fight off an approaching cold - you would only need to make maybe 8 ounces. If your whole family will be using it, and you're putting it in the family's milk, juice, soup, sauce, etc., or spraying it on various items (shower curtains, toilet bowls, etc.) for its antiseptic affect, you will need to make a liter at a time. When I first started, I used a 12-volt DC adapter, like what powers a cordless phone, or a cassette player. When I saw how amazing CS worked, and I started selling it to my clients, and then to HF stores, I bought a whole box-full of adapters and chain-linked them to get higher voltages (24-36 volts). Using a 12-volt (or whatever) DC adapter, here is what you do. Cut off the jack on the end. Pull the wires apart on the end, and attach alligator clips to each wire (available at Radio Shack). You now have an excellent CS machine (just like the $100+ gizmo, but without the bells and whistles). You now need two 6 long silver wires. You should type in silver wires in your search engine and shop for best prices. If you're just making it for yourself, and don't drink 1 quart a day, the wires should last you at least a year. But you will probably start giving it to your friends, so if you have to buy 3+ sets of wires (or 20') to get the best price, you won't regret it (and still be spending far less than the expensive gizmo!). Put 8 oz. of steam distilled water (DW) only (not reverse osmosis, tap, well, mineral, filtered, purified or spring water) in a jar (deionised is also ok), hang the 99.9% pure silver wires down inside by bending one end of each wire over the rim of the jar so as to hang down on the outside of the jar about 3/4 to 1, the rest of the wire hanging down on the inside of the jar about 5. Remember, these wires are pure silver, not Sterling silver. Sterling silver contains other metals which are toxic. Put them in the jar so that they are about 2 apart, hanging parallel to each other. Don't plug in the adapter until everything is set up and connected. Attach the alligator clips to the outside ends of the two wires, with the wires going straight into the ends of the clips, like they were jaws biting off the ends, not where the teeth on the sides are. You'll notice that by twisting the alligator clips on the wires, it will make the wires lean to the right or left, so this is how you cause the wires to be straight and parallel to each other. Plug in the adapter and let sit for 2 hours. After a few minutes you may observe bubbles of hydrogen rise from one silver wire, while an ultra fine silver mist may begin to float off the other. If you alternate the alligator clips on the wires (change polarity) every 1/2 hour, the wires will wear evenly. (Eventually one or the other will become so thin it will disappear. Time to replace it!) The color of the water when you are finished,
RE: CSUrinary Tract Infection---CS plus other helpers
Frozen cranberry juice is also good for urinary infections. Best Regards, Robert Ratliff ICQ 1495914 -Original Message- From: Al Riley [mailto:a...@domsys.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 11:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUrinary Tract Infection---CS plus other helpers Hi Gang, I usually just lurk unless I find something that is truly extraordinary to share. I had been suffering with a bladder infection for the last week, using the mixture of CS, Gatorade and MSM that was mentioned a couple months ago (see archives) as being valuable to augment the effectiveness of the CS. I found that although I wasn't getting worse, I wasn't getting better either. I spoke to my homeopathic doctor who suggested that I augment the CS with Cranberry-Buchu tablets. I was astonished when my rather chronic symptoms were reduced in 24-36 hours. I am continuing on the CS/Cranberry-Buchu tablets until I am symptom free (perhaps a week more). I had never heard of the addition of the Buchu Leaf to the Cranberry, but it made all the difference in the world. Hope this helps someone. Al
CSRe:Making CS
While I am not technically inclined, I appreciate the work and research the techs are doing. One day they will be able to tell us, go by XXX and attach it here, or I have created a model you can buy. Hey if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have a clue on how to make it ourselves. I enjoy their experiments and I learn alot about who is trying to go the extra mile, even though I don't understand it. I would hate to see them leave this list and create a new one where we won't be privy to this information. I think if you have a simple question...ask it and understand that there are two things happening on this list. 1. People are helping people to make and use CS. 2. People are trying to incorporate other methods and devices for the advance of better health. I certainly don't want to stop the progress that study and testing is creating... that would make me like the government. Kim PS. Thanks guys! Very well put. I joined this forum to learn how to incorporate CS into my family's diet, as I'm sure many others on this forum did. Naturally, I would like to know the best way to make CS. And although I don't totally discount all of this tech talk, I fear (and hesitate to say) that our tech gurus on this forum may tend to forget the many more of us here on this forum who are not as technically inclined. I WANT to understand and learn about the latest processes and protocols, etc...but much of the detailed information being bandied about here recently is just way over my head. sigh! My post here is simply to back-up what Russ said about the benefits of CS without abstruse details and to thank Terry for his courage to post his original msg which perhaps serves, if for nothing else, to remind our valued tech gurus to please not forget us simple-minded folks on the forum. hlee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Making CS
I totally agree and I do appreciate their hard work to improve the methods of producing cs. The scientific method is great and helps advance our knowledge of the subject. Well said, Kim. Diane KIM BROWN wrote: While I am not technically inclined, I appreciate the work and research the techs are doing. One day they will be able to tell us, go by XXX and attach it here, or I have created a model you can buy. Hey if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have a clue on how to make it ourselves. I enjoy their experiments and I learn alot about who is trying to go the extra mile, even though I don't understand it. I would hate to see them leave this list and create a new one where we won't be privy to this information. I think if you have a simple question...ask it and understand that there are two things happening on this list. 1. People are helping people to make and use CS. 2. People are trying to incorporate other methods and devices for the advance of better health. I certainly don't want to stop the progress that study and testing is creating... that would make me like the government. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUrinary Tract Infection---CS plus other helpers
Howdy Marshall, Good to hear from you. Yes I did use the Cranberry/CS protocol for the week before I began the Cranberry/Buchu regimine. The Cranberry /CS alone only held me at the same level of chronic discomfort. The relief with the Buchu added was immediate, within 24 hours. From what I can garner from my literature the Buchu leaf is known in the Orient as the Women's Helper. Perhaps we have a Oriental Medicine specialist as a Lurker, who could help with this discussion. All I can say is that the relief was dramatic. hugs al
CSOde to our Techies. God Bless'em
In a message dated 10/24/00 6:30:20 AM EST, h...@kscable.com writes: Subj: CSFw: CSMaking CS Date: 10/24/00 6:30:20 AM EST From: h...@kscable.com (hlee) Reply-to: h...@kscable.com (hlee) To:silver-list@eskimo.com Very well put. I joined this forum to learn how to incorporate CS into my family's diet, as I'm sure many others on this forum did. Naturally, I would like to know the best way to make CS. And although I don't totally discount all of this tech talk, I fear (and hesitate to say) that our tech gurus on this forum may tend to forget the many more of us here on this forum who are not as technically inclined. I WANT to understand and learn about the latest processes and protocols, etc...but much of the detailed information being bandied about here recently is just way over my head. sigh! My post here is simply to back-up what Russ said about the benefits of CS without abstruse details and to thank Terry for his courage to post his original msg which perhaps serves, if for nothing else, to remind our valued tech gurus to please not forget us simple-minded folks on the forum. hlee Hlee: With all due respect, it has been Ivan, Marshall, Ole Bob, Bob Lee, Dean and other techies who have often taken the newbies by the hand and repeated, over and over again answers that could have been easily obtained from searching the archives. I'm afraid I'm not nearly as patient as the gentlemen above. God bless'em. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSthank you to the teachies
Joanne ThomasonIf something is over your head (and most of it certainly is over mine) just delete, you do not even have to read it, but certainly don't condemn them for wanting to explore the more technical aspects of making CS. If you have a question that is non tech they have always been willing to answer. Bless them for taking the time to respond to anyone who asks about anything you care to discuss. Have a good day Joanne Joanne Thomason sami...@earthlink.net This is my Beautiful Sami Jo Click on me to send my mommy mail :-) samismlstat100.JPG
Re: CS vs. grapefruit seed extract
Hi Claudio, On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:14:10 +0100, csor...@tin.it wrote: I saw somewhere on the web a claim on the grapefruit seed extract. They say GSE is 10 times more effective than CS for inhibiting microorganisms. Have we to throw away all our CS generators? There are some extracts (olive leaf, grape seed, cayenne, garlic, melaleuca leaf and grapefruit seed(?) and many others) that are more effective in certain situations than CS. That's because they can get to places in the body that CS can't go due to the nature of the extracts. But some of them don't work well externally, and most don't work to kill fungus on walls or plants. :) CS isn't always the best for a specific use, but it does seem to have the widest application, and can effectively replace much more expensive substances to kill micro-organisms in most situations. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS vs. grapefruit seed extract
Hi all, I saw somewhere on the web a claim on the grapefruit seed extract. They say GSE is 10 times more effective than CS for inhibiting microorganisms. Have we to throw away all our CS generators? Claudio -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS120VAC to 12VDC Converter
Nancy; If you were happy with the 1000 ohms with 9 volts then add two more for 3000 ohms and you are back to where you started. but you should realy add stirring for a better CS Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Sciatica
Does anyone know of a good remedy for sciatica? Thanks. mamabear -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS
Hi Duncan, Looks to me as though you'll be making colloidal copper with this setup. The silver comes off the positive anode normally and you show the copper as being positive. Or did I miss something? Trem - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS Here's a picture of how to do CS with wall current and a bridge rectifier. You probably need only .3 AMP, not 1 AMP fuse. And this exposes current to the operator. But it sure is simple, fast and cheap, and uses a large anode for lower point-current and smaller particles. Someone may certainly correct the diagram. ciao Duncan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS IV
Hi all, Now that someone has mentioned intravenous injection of CS as it was once done, why isn't being done now? I read on the list about animals have IV CS. Why isn't this application more widely practiced... or maybe it is and no one is talking. Wouldn't IV application be the ultimate choice for CS? Could you use you homemade version or would it have to be from CS made for medical purposes... and is there a difference? thanks Terri But if the chunks were large enough, like powdered silver, the ionic = effect would continue down inside your bowel until the silver was used = up. Which would depend on your intestine's PH and any other reactivity. = That would correlate roughly to powdered silver safely being injected IV = in the 1920's. It will eventually dissolve in an acidic environment. fair enough? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS
Here's a picture of how to do CS with wall current and a bridge rectifier. You probably need only .3 AMP, not 1 AMP fuse. And this exposes current to the operator. But it sure is simple, fast and cheap, and uses a large anode for lower point-current and smaller particles. Someone may certainly correct the diagram. ciao Duncan attachment: cheap_CS_maker1.gif
RE: CSOde to our Techies. God Bless'em
I have to back Roger up on this one. I'm replying from work so it will be short. I am a nuts-n-bolts guy too and want to know what-why-and-how. I am not there YET so I appreciate the patience of the guys who have been around the block a few times more than I have. When I see something that is just way over my head or just doesn't [yet] impact how I produce CS, I just delete the post. Tim Eastman ~~ Build Mentors - don't just teach. If no one desires to follow your example - what are you doing? Be that example that Mentors who follow you yearn to pattern after. ~~ -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOde to our Techies. God Bless'em With all due respect, it has been Ivan, Marshall, Ole Bob, Bob Lee, Dean and other techies who have often taken the newbies by the hand and repeated, over and over again answers that could have been easily obtained from searching the archives. I'm afraid I'm not nearly as patient as the gentlemen above. God bless'em. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFriendly bacteria
Duncan,.. Newbie alert; isn't the powdered approach what has so many Dr's underwear in a knot with Agryria? If I missed a previous post then I'll read up on it when I get home. Isn't powdered AG usually in the form of a compound? TIm Eastman -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFriendly bacteria Unless you're eating powdered silver, the particles are so small, particularly WRT CS, it's all absorbed by your bloodstream before it gets very far down your digestive tract. In a dog for example, the CS is detectable 33 seconds from the time it is infused into the (presumably empty) stomach. But if you were sick with the 'flu and your system was empty anyway, you could control the intestinal portion of the flu by drinking very large quantities of CS. Sheer volume may get it there. It's true that silver is ineffective in a nonliquid meduim, but the intestine is a primarily liquid medium, that is, it has enough liquid present to produce ionic reactions. That's how the bloodstream picks up the silver ions. But if the chunks were large enough, like powdered silver, the ionic effect would continue down inside your bowel until the silver was used up. Which would depend on your intestine's PH and any other reactivity. That would correlate roughly to powdered silver safely being injected IV in the 1920's. It will eventually dissolve in an acidic environment. fair enough?
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V100 #752
I used to be able to read your attachments. I can no longer read the attachments to the E-mail. What kind of files are they? silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 10/24/00 02:14PM Content-Type: text/plain silver-digest DigestVolume 100 : Issue 752 Today's Topics: Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS Re: CS120VAC to 12VDC Converter CSRe: Sciatica Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS CSCS IV Re: CSCS IV Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS Re: CSRe: Interesting, simple H202 experiment RE: CSOde to our Techies. God Bless'em RE: CSFriendly bacteria CS IV CS IV -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m27780.html The above article contains instructions on building the electrode part of the cheap wall-current CS generator. Note that it's the same electrodes as the 4KVDC set, but driven with less power. It's also more dangerous than the 4KVDC microwave oven to operate because the terminals are exposed. At least the 4KVDC one has operational safeties built in - It's the CONSTRUCTION, not the operation of it that's dangerous. If the .GIF diagram I just sent didn't come through the egroup, email me and I'll send it to you personally. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: How I arrested a CANCER: Q A
Henry Reed pj20...@home.com writes: This sounds so wonderful! Questions... I realize that this is a CS list, not electromedical. However, our real goal is to secure the best methods of *DIY health maintenance*. Toward this end, CS often serves as a promising *starting point*, but it doesn't necessarily represent the limit of our curiosity (a sacred cow, as one put it). The current discussion of cranberry buchu illustrates the logical progression from CS to whatever methods prove even *more* efficacious in specific cases (without resorting to alopathy). CS is a *byproduct* of metal, water, and electricity. Therefore, it would be a step toward even greater simplicity self-sufficiency wherever ELECTRICITY ALONE proved equally efficacious. (This might indeed be the case: our bodies already contain the aqueous part of the formula, and there are indications that CS actually 'electrocutes' pathogens.) At the very least, direct electrical stimulus might become a vital *compliment* to CS therapy--cheaper and more ubiquitous than herbs. Because the mainstream will never address this issue, the answers can be discovered only by voluntary and autonomous groups *such as THIS*. We'll see. It would be logical to start with maladies where CS evidently falls short. E.g., it would be interesting to compare the aforementioned urinary tract modality against a similar case wherein the subject simply electrified his/her abdomen. Such opportunities may present themselves within this forum imminently! I started with simple DC (e.g., from batteries or a wall wort); it's the form of low voltage that's the most universally available to the masses. (The most commonly available HV source is probably a spark plug wire from an idling car engine. Many lives have been saved by shocking venomous snake bites thus.) What are electrode sponges and how big were they? First, do no harm. At the outset, we should consider any possible drawbacks. One risk I know of is electroporesis, wherein electrical current may augment the cellular uptake of medicines, herbs, supplements, etc. (I wonder if this is due to the current's beneficial effect of reducing water surface tension.) It may be advisable to back off of these for some time prior to experimentation. Pacemakers might be another caveat. I cut 2 segments of broom handle, ~ 6 (just enough to grip), with one end cut diagonally, and 2 squares of galvanized sheet metal, ~2 sq. The metal plates were screwed perpendicularly to the diagonal handle ends, so the plates are mounted at an angle for easier electrode contact with various parts of the body. The handles insulate one's hands so the current passes between the electrodes(through the body) rather than from one hand to the other (through one's arms chest). I cut a dense, small-cell kitchen sponge into 2 squares somewhat larger than the plates (so the metal never touches the skin) hot glued them to the plates' peripheries, on the face of the plates opposite the handles. After the sponge pads have been submerged in salt water, they act as comfortable electrodes. Exactly what was the DC power supply? How long were the dowels and how big around? What is a 'tinned' wire? I bared the 2 leads from an everyday, household power transformer (the kind used with answering machines, portable phones, rechargeable flashlights, etc.), and soldered them to the 2 plates, respectively, on the handle side. The wires can be taped to the handles. As long as the power supply is around the usual ceiling of 12V, the size isn't critical. The power level is controlled by contact with the wands, concentration of salt water, and conductivity of the body. My friend I both experienced electrical hot spots that may have indicated acutely afflicted areas. A physicist I know who makes a HP electromedical device claims that high bodily conducitivity sensitivity indicates poor health. Unlike his device (which will arc to the body through the air), this low voltage method allows power attenuation by wringing out the sponges and/or diluting the salt water! How long did the treatment last? Did she do this one time or many? She rubbed the wands slowly over the front back of her abdominal area (simultaneously), changing hands periodically, for about 10-15 min. before bed, for about 14 consecutive nights. Incidentally, she claimed to sleep better have more energy in general. Others on this list can recommend a circuit for adjustable rate, automatic polarity reversal...and so the variations and experimental results begin to proliferate! That's the human spirit at work! (Actually, I'd prefer to call it the Holy Spirit...but that's another topic that I'll be discussing on talk radio more frequently in the near future.) Regards, Russ I really want to do this and it sounds like it may be 'low tech' enough that I really can. It sounds like an ingenious improvisation. Congratulations.. russ e
Re: CSRe: Interesting, simple H202 experiment
- Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Interesting, simple H202 experiment (I'd do it myself, but I lost my slide rule 30 years ago and now you can't find any replacements the Internet) Roger Roger, I am enjoying these technical discussions so very much that I'll help with your slip-stick problem. I have a Pickett in pristine condition with the original Pickett book, How to use log log slide rules by Professor Maurice L. Hartung of The Univesity of Chicago, c-1953. Practicality takes precedent over nostalgia as far as I'm concerned. If you can use it, make me a reasonable offer and provide a shipping address. Robert Bartell rbart...@drfast.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS IV
The ONLY reason we all don't use silver now instead of the myriad of other less effective treatments is that BIG Brother and BIG PHARMACY have conspired against it and the other electromedical therapies since before 1928. Of course pharmaceutical interests have a lot more lobby power than we do. Millionaires tend to listen better to other millionaires than to the facts. If you look up the topic you'll find that the 3 biggest pharmaceutical firms in Germany founded the Deutsche Bank, which then funded world war II, and built and staffed Auschwitz, which was producing rubber and fuel for the war effort. The US government attempted to dissolve Deutsche Bank and try the bunch as war criminals, but money talks, and the case was dropped. SO my point is that the motives of the pharma cartel are power and greed, and that's why you can only buy ineffective and expensive treatments. Check it out. Merck gave AIDS to Africa with the help of the World Health Organisation. Similarly in the USA. SH*T happens. For greed. ciao Duncan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS IV
If you can make it clean there's no reason why you couldn't make your own IV batch. The difference right now is that I think the only way to get medical grade is as a mild silver protein, which of course is disgusting. They can't produce it and store it without binding it to a protein. But we can. ciao Duncan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSslightly OT - electromedicine
There are many links posted to www.egroups.com/group/beck-n-stuff this week as a single file. You could search keyword 'many links'.. The wands rubbed over the abdomen is just about exactly part of the treatment I've seen used to cure osteomyelitis - deep bone infection. Also magnetic pulser and CS. here's and older message that'll help bring people up to speed People are curing Malaria, parasites, Aids, Hepc, Epstein-barr, colds and flu and etc...etc...on their own, at home, and cheaply. Statistically the electromedical methods are more than 80% effective, sometimes bringing optimal results even when treating viruses that medicine can't touch. A protocol suggested by Dr. Beck PhD for example involves ozone therapy, blood electrification, drinking silver water, and pulsed magnetic therapy to eliminate all bacteria, virus, fungus from a body, and 95% of cancers, too. Since 1918 we have had several important discoveries regarding healing properties of electricity, magnetics, and ozone. But since BIG PHARMACY started a campaign against alternative methods in the 1920's these methods have been actively suppressed, labs burned, and doctors and researchers murdered. BIG PHARMACY is still at it to control vitamins and herbs today through World Trade and CODEX. http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/ http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/diseases.html http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/ Dr. Robert Beck and his favorite links Egroups that should interest you (my order of preference). When you join you can choose the optional daily digest that will contain all the messages for the previous day. You can search them for keywords to answer any questions. www.egroups.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification www.egroups.com/group/Beck-n-stuff www.egroups.com/group/oxyplus www.egroups.com/group/ozonetherapy www.egroups.com/group/SymphonicHealth www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Some of these groups have been around for awhile and there's a lot of information there. Many doctors PhD's and practitioners are in these groups. The grassroots effort is growing and will prevail. Enjoy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:IV
Marsha, I really wouldn't enjoy needling myself, but at some point it was mentioned about CS only working in a liq. environment. Questions being raised about CS reaching the intestines and not working there. So blood being a liq., if someone were to have a life threatning problem, wouldn't that be the quickest way to get CS through the whole body in lightning speed? CS having no side effects as opposed to some antibiotics and other meds. Terri Dear Terri, Why bother? It works well when swallowed, so why have the pain of sticking it in??? Love, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: corrected diagram CS maker
Hi Duncan, It looks much better now. The average person might not have known to use + on the silver side. They could have gotten copper instead of silver colloid. No comment needed. Trem - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: CSRe: corrected diagram CS maker no comment -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSJohn--PLEASE CALL RIGHT NOW...
...and make arrangements to be interviewed by Jackie Patru TOMMOROW NIGHT (Wed 25th) fm 9-10C on WWCR. Her show is called Sweet Liberty. Her # is in your voicemail. PS-- Regarding the continual onslaught of EM (HAARP) emanations that may be affecting people with various degrees of self-destructive impulses: I'm thinking that a *radionic* defense might be more universal than personal jammers tuned to beneficial brainwave frequencies. All substances have inherent vibratory signatures, and there's a phenomenon known as 'heterodyning' whereby certain substances (or energy fields) can convert input energy to the frequency to which they're naturally 'tuned'. I think a step in the right direction is to keep oneself saturated with the ninety-something minerals found in *whole* (moist, clumpy, grey-green colored) SEA SALT. Tests dating back to the 30's reveal that these are the same minerals found in dessicated human tissues, in both range and proportion. I.e., lack of sea salt in the diet might be a defining factor in the wide range of vulnerability to this influence that people obviously evince. --Regards, Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScandida
Hi group So let me get this straight - I am taking CS for intestinal candida, and are you telling me it doesn't even reach the intestines? Is anyone else taking CS for Intest. Candida and have found something else that is taken alongsideCS? I have grapeseed extract in the cupboard, as I was recommended that by a health shop person. Didn't seem to make much difference. I don't think I took it in conjunction with CS. To whomever said that I should ask one question/topic at a time, you're right. I shall keep to that. As to asking the same question over , I don't think I have, they have been slightly different, but I have brain fog, so my memory isn't that great. That and I am a mum with 3 small kids and not enough sleep. Thanks Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS vs. grapefruit seed extract
- Original Message - From: csor...@tin.it To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:14 PM Subject: CS vs. grapefruit seed extract Hi all, I saw somewhere on the web a claim on the grapefruit seed extract. They say GSE is 10 times more effective than CS for inhibiting microorganisms. Have we to throw away all our CS generators? Claudio Hey Claudio, I have a suspicion that what you are referring to is grape seed extract, which is a very good anti-oxident with some unique properties. Grape seed or grapefruit ... whatever ... don't throw the baby out with the bath water ... keep, cherish, protect and use your CS generator! Robert Bartell -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFriendly bacteria
- Original Message - From: Duncan Crow To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:09 PM Subject: Re: CSFriendly bacteria Unless you're eating powdered silver, the particles are so small, particularly WRT CS, it's all absorbed by your bloodstream before it gets very far down your digestive tract. In a dog for example, the CS is detectable 33 seconds from the time it is infused into the (presumably empty) stomach. Whooa ... where are you coming from with this? Like referrences or documentation? Red flags are up here! But if you were sick with the 'flu and your system was empty anyway, you could control the intestinal portion of the flu by drinking very large quantities of CS. Sheer volume may get it there. Flu is divided into different portions? Flu is a virus period, regardless of where it locates in the body and the anti-viral modality of CS lies in its smallest particles being able to circumnavigate the immune system to reach the virus anywhere and everywhere at the cellular level. It's true that silver is ineffective in a nonliquid meduim, but the intestine is a primarily liquid medium, that is, it has enough liquid present to produce ionic reactions. That's how the bloodstream picks up the silver ions. How about sublingual absorbtion? But if the chunks were large enough, like powdered silver, the ionic effect would continue down inside your bowel until the silver was used up. Which would depend on your intestine's PH and any other reactivity. That would correlate roughly to powdered silver safely being injected IV in the 1920's. It will eventually dissolve in an acidic environment. Wrong! Blood circulating particles that are too large will deposit them in tissues close to the surface of the skin resulting in the infamous discoloration of Argyria. These particles do not ionize and disappear. Where did you get the information that powdered silver was safely being injected intravenously in the 1920's? If that indeed happened, I'm sure that ... in hindsight there had to have been horribly adverse effects! fair enough? No! We need to get on the same page! Where are you getting this information from? Robert Bartell
Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS
- Original Message - From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:45 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS Hi Duncan, Looks to me as though you'll be making colloidal copper with this setup. The silver comes off the positive anode normally and you show the copper as being positive. Or did I miss something? Trem - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS I confess that Duncan Crow is beginning to worry me a bit! (Loose cannon?) Robert Bartell -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSMaking CS
how can anyyone have so much bad info and put it out as gospel by accident? Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS120VAC to 12VDC Converter
Dear Bob Thanks for your reply. Actually I got a little 1 1/2 volt motor from Radio Shack to stir with but can't figure out how to slow it down. A resister I'm sure but what size? Also I want to use the current regulator you recommended but haven't found it yet. When I do do I still need resistors? Thanks again for all your help. Nancy -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS120VAC to 12VDC Converter Nancy; If you were happy with the 1000 ohms with 9 volts then add two more for 3000 ohms and you are back to where you started. but you should realy add stirring for a better CS Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSslightly OT - electromedicine
THANKS!--Russ On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:57:19 -0700 Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com writes: There are many links posted to www.egroups.com/group/beck-n-stuff this week as a single file. You could search keyword 'many links'.. The wands rubbed over the abdomen is just about exactly part of the treatment I've seen used to cure osteomyelitis - deep bone infection. Also magnetic pulser and CS. here's and older message that'll help bring people up to speed People are curing Malaria, parasites, Aids, Hepc, Epstein-barr, colds and flu and etc...etc...on their own, at home, and cheaply. Statistically the electromedical methods are more than 80% effective, sometimes bringing optimal results even when treating viruses that medicine can't touch. A protocol suggested by Dr. Beck PhD for example involves ozone therapy, blood electrification, drinking silver water, and pulsed magnetic therapy to eliminate all bacteria, virus, fungus from a body, and 95% of cancers, too. Since 1918 we have had several important discoveries regarding healing properties of electricity, magnetics, and ozone. But since BIG PHARMACY started a campaign against alternative methods in the 1920's these methods have been actively suppressed, labs burned, and doctors and researchers murdered. BIG PHARMACY is still at it to control vitamins and herbs today through World Trade and CODEX. http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/ http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/diseases.html http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/ Dr. Robert Beck and his favorite links Egroups that should interest you (my order of preference). When you join you can choose the optional daily digest that will contain all the messages for the previous day. You can search them for keywords to answer any questions. www.egroups.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification www.egroups.com/group/Beck-n-stuff www.egroups.com/group/oxyplus www.egroups.com/group/ozonetherapy www.egroups.com/group/SymphonicHealth www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Some of these groups have been around for awhile and there's a lot of information there. Many doctors PhD's and practitioners are in these groups. The grassroots effort is growing and will prevail. Enjoy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS IV
- Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 5:08 PM Subject: CS IV If you can make it clean there's no reason why you couldn't make your own IV batch. The difference right now is that I think the only way to get medical grade is as a mild silver protein, which of course is disgusting. They can't produce it and store it without binding it to a protein. But we can. ciao Duncan Once again, Duncan ... where are you getting this from? Medical Grade Colloidal Silver is a mild silver protein? Whole cloth? Referrences! Robert Bartell
CSQuestion for group, esp. Mr. Crow (!) :
Greetings-- Injecting silver powder is a prescription for DISASTER! Homeostasis prevents blood acidity; silver powder would not dissolve, but precipitate--esp. under the skin... That said, the thesis that CS diffuses into bodily fluids before reaching the intestines is plausible; ergo, how can it be safely granulated? --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOde to our Techies. God Bless'em
I too am thankful to our kind and knowledgeable techies. pj rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/24/00 6:30:20 AM EST, h...@kscable.com writes: Subj: CSFw: CSMaking CS Date: 10/24/00 6:30:20 AM EST From: h...@kscable.com (hlee) Reply-to: h...@kscable.com (hlee) To:silver-list@eskimo.com Very well put. I joined this forum to learn how to incorporate CS into my family's diet, as I'm sure many others on this forum did. Naturally, I would like to know the best way to make CS. And although I don't totally discount all of this tech talk, I fear (and hesitate to say) that our tech gurus on this forum may tend to forget the many more of us here on this forum who are not as technically inclined. I WANT to understand and learn about the latest processes and protocols, etc...but much of the detailed information being bandied about here recently is just way over my head. sigh! My post here is simply to back-up what Russ said about the benefits of CS without abstruse details and to thank Terry for his courage to post his original msg which perhaps serves, if for nothing else, to remind our valued tech gurus to please not forget us simple-minded folks on the forum. hlee Hlee: With all due respect, it has been Ivan, Marshall, Ole Bob, Bob Lee, Dean and other techies who have often taken the newbies by the hand and repeated, over and over again answers that could have been easily obtained from searching the archives. I'm afraid I'm not nearly as patient as the gentlemen above. God bless'em. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Sciatica
Sitting for a while on the neg. pole of a 2 1/2 lb. therapeutic magnet will alleviate the pain quickly. Repeat as needed. Works for me. pj mama2b...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know of a good remedy for sciatica? Thanks. mamabear -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:Sciatica
Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2000, 2:36pm (CDT+1) From: mama2b...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Sciatica Does anyone know of a good remedy for sciatica? Thanks. mamabear I was cured of intractable sciatica using a technique called counter irritation. Contact me off list if you want to know more. hamilton williams hamilto...@webtv.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:IV--USEFUL ALTERNATIVE
To all interested List Members. Some years ago, we found a very useful alternative to IV utilization of CS in human volunteers. By diluting 2 ounces of 5 to 10 ppm CS with approximately 4 ounces of water and mixing the proper amount of powdered gatorade (or any balanced fluid electrolyte) you will have a solutilon that will be absorbed, approximately, 10 times as fast as ordinary tap water. There are ancillary components which could be added, in extreme cases, but this simple protocol will give absorption/transport speeds nearing IV infusions administered in extremity veins. Canulating veins and arteries is not as danger-free as one mightat first blushimagine. Amateurish efforts have resulted in many unfortunate resultsnot the least of which are air embolisms. Please do not regard these remarks as pedantic.I am just concerned over someone attempting something (IV protocols) which may involve serious consequences to their health. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. annho...@aol.com wrote: Marsha, I really wouldn't enjoy needling myself, but at some point it was mentioned about CS only working in a liq. environment. Questions being raised about CS reaching the intestines and not working there. So blood being a liq., if someone were to have a life threatning problem, wouldn't that be the quickest way to get CS through the whole body in lightning speed? CS having no side effects as opposed to some antibiotics and other meds. Terri Dear Terri, Why bother? It works well when swallowed, so why have the pain of sticking it in??? Love, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
