Re: CSSage for memory
..what a nice site!! thanks Jules. On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:38:24 -0500 wwen...@aol.com writes: Jack, This company's extracts have been highly recommended to me - though I don't have personal experience with them. http://www.teetercreekherbs.com/single/sage.html Salud! Jules -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSpider Bite Cleanup
Well, you know, walking down stairs can be dangerous. Pay attention to what your body is telling you... Dan RE: CSSpider Bite Cleanup From: Wayne Fugitt wrote: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:22:36 Evening James, Wisdom of the ages ! The skin's heat sensors quickly fatigue. Wham you contact something hot, the sensitivity of the pain receptors quickly diminishes. It is quite possible to cook the skin without pain. Now you tell me, about two weeks too late. grin This is especially true with older people, people who are ill, people how have been taking drugs, including alcohol. Well... you are not talking about me now, except on the phrase, older people. I don't take any drugs and don't use any alcohol, except the ethel alcohol I used to dissolve the MSM. That may have been a mistake, maybe not. The heating pad felt so good, I simply overdone it. I think this is why everyone thought I was going to die from the spider bit, The redness was really sunburn type redness. Honestly, that has been more painful than the bite itself. That gave me something to get my mind off the bite. Been using Aloe Vera juice and gel on the burned area. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSvedberg on Colloids
Cornell University's Mann Library on-line collection of Core Historical Literature in Agriculture (CHLA) also provides Colloid Chemistry (1924) by Theodor Svedberg, the Nobel laureate colloidalist. It is about 280+ pages long and is aimed at a broader audience than Freunlich's textbook. It includes some remarks on tyndallometry, circa 1924, that may be of interest. Matthew
CSYeast Infection Help
I will try to be brief :) I started CS daily about 1 1/2 months ago and I recently tripled my dosages to 3-5 ounces a day because I was 'almost' getting the flu. ( I take 5ppm CS Silver Tonic from a great source who is highly respected on this site.) 3 days later I started getting the first signs of a yeast infection-never full blown but bad enough. Not only was I getting sick but yeasty and I was taking 5 ounces a day! I stopped my CS on Friday (to test it) and today (Tuesday) I no longer have ANY yeast symptoms. I was very disappointed because I'm not giving up my CS! I turned to the archives before writing this post for any suggestions. Some believe CS can disrupt the flora of the gut others don't believe that (it disrupted mine.) I went on to read that some people take CS with acidophilus. Now this is where I need help... The advice I got was to take the 2 together at the same time. But that doesn't make any sense to me??? Doesn't one negate the other? Also, there were suggestions to actually use CS as a douche. Since CS did disrupt my flora, would it be wise to use it as a douche? As of right now, I'm no longer symptomatic but does that make sense anyway? FYI-I haven't had a yeast infection in OVER 10 years! I get regular colonics and follow a high protein-low carb diet. No potatoes, only high grain-no sugar bread and very little refined sugars. The only thing I changed was consumption of CS. Thank you in advance, Mag - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: CSArchive Link http://www.silverlist.com/SilverList.html Scroll to the bottom and you will find archives -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSYeast Infection Help
are you sue it was not just die off from the yeast, try taking a probiotic 1-2 hs after silver for a while. roger I will try to be brief :) I started CS daily about 1 1/2 months ago and I recently tripled my dosages to 3-5 ounces a day because I was 'almost' getting the flu. ( I take 5ppm CS Silver Tonic from a great source who is highly respected on this site.) 3 days later I started getting the first signs of a yeast infection-never full blown but bad enough. Not only was I getting sick but yeasty and I was taking 5 ounces a day! I stopped my CS on Friday (to test it) and today (Tuesday) I no longer have ANY yeast symptoms. I was very disappointed because I'm not giving up my CS! I turned to the archives before writing this post for any suggestions. Some believe CS can disrupt the flora of the gut others don't believe that (it disrupted mine.) I went on to read that some people take CS with acidophilus. Now this is where I need help... The advice I got was to take the 2 together at the same time. But that doesn't make any sense to me??? Doesn't one negate the other? Also, there were suggestions to actually use CS as a douche. Since CS did disrupt my flora, would it be wise to use it as a douche? As of right now, I'm no longer symptomatic but does that make sense anyway? FYI-I haven't had a yeast infection in OVER 10 years! I get regular colonics and follow a high protein-low carb diet. No potatoes, only high grain-no sugar bread and very little refined sugars. The only thing I changed was consumption of CS. Thank you in advance, Mag -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: CSMaking CS using resistance method..
. CS Gang, I have been brewing CS for about five years now. I've settled on a brewing current of 1/2 ma (500 microamps) between 8 inch long, 12 gage silver electrodes, spaced 2 inches apart in 40 ounces of steam distilled water. No stirring. The finished CS is clear with no fuzzies on the elements. Laser beam shows as a very faint, fine tyndal line in the CS. Resistance is used to determine when the product is finished. Resistance of the fresh distilled water is taken before brewing, using the silver electrodes in place. This number for my setup is around 40,000 ohms. Brewing is started using the above parameters and continues until the resistance is about 5000 ohms. R is measured casually during the brewing cycle, maybe 3 or 4 times, until the target of approximately 5000 ohms is reached. (+/- 500 ohms, not critical). A standard Ohm meter is used to measure resistance. I attribute the lower resistance (higher conductance) to the ionic content of the CS, and the fine, weak beam of the laser confirms low amount of small silver particles. I have not had the colloidal silver tested, so PPM is unknown. Tom Bassett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSage for memory
Wonder which type of sage is used. I grow it and have several different ones. I would like to make my own :o) C. Kehoe - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:58 PM Subject: Re: CSSage for memory Richard Harris 12/14/03 3:16 PM Wrote: Hi Jack, Call 1-800-645-1030 Puritan's Pride. They have a special on Sage Leaf Capsules #100 3 for 11.94 + shipping. *** Thanks Richard, but I'm looking for the extract not the crushed dried leaves. :-) Forgot to mention that. The research done was with the extract, which as you know represents a major in crease in product. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpider Bite Cleanup
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: RE: CSSpider Bite Cleanup ...everyone thought I was going to die from the spider bite Wayne, I'm glad you're still here. Nenah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSage for memory
Carol Kehoe 12/16/03 9:58 AM Wrote: Wonder which type of sage is used. I grow it and have several different ones. I would like to make my own :o) ** Hi Carol, how about Salvia officinalls ? Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSaltcancer.com Again
List, I found this post about altcancer.com: http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site. Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen. Cansema does indeed produce scary-looking results, but the healing proceeds slowly and without infection. My guess is that the woman who claims to have lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction job. Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will tell. The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon; it would be interesting to find out the basis of this charge. Without any information about the facts, the insinuation is that the man is a habitual criminal. I very much doubt that. I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case. Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com archives on his fine site. I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega; there has been no positive news yet. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSaltcancer.com Again
List, In re-reading my own message, minutes after writing it, I think that my speculations are inappropriate. As I know nothing about the details of the claims of the alleged victim of Cansema, it is wrong of me to put my suspicions in writing. Apologies for that. Conceivably the case is legitimate, though obviously I have my doubts. In any event, my speculations were not appropriate, and I should not have said anything at all about the person who allegedly made the allegations, nor about whomever may have provided medical treatment for the alleged damage. I simply do not have enough information. Insufficient information is, of course, is a major problem with the posting to which I have provided a link. It is an unbalanced attack with inadequate support. The link itself is all I should have posted, and left members to draw their own conclusions. All the same, I hope that someone on the list may be able to provide more information about the ongoing proceedings against a company that, I believe, provides effective, low-cost, products that really work. Cheers, JBB On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:17 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: List, I found this post about altcancer.com: http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site. Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen. Cansema does indeed produce scary-looking results, but the healing proceeds slowly and without infection. My guess is that the woman who claims to have lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction job. Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will tell. The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon; it would be interesting to find out the basis of this charge. Without any information about the facts, the insinuation is that the man is a habitual criminal. I very much doubt that. I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case. Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com archives on his fine site. I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega; there has been no positive news yet. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: altcancer.com Again
Thanks for the update, Jonathan. Reminds me, somewhere I read/heard the FDA expressly forbids the curing of cancer. Maybe it's in the parsing of the words or whatever, or faulty memory on my part. Does anyone recall this point specifically? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSaltcancer.com Again
Hi Jonathan: I'm certainly sorry to see the bad publicity against Alpha Omega Labs. I'm sorry that the lady in question did not follow the explicit advice on how to approach using cansema. Greg has always emphatically asked people to get a diagnosis before using Cansema, from a licensed medical doctor. You can't tell before hand, just by looking at the skin, how deep any cancer is. I imagine the lady's story is true. Any such product should be used by those who read carefully, and understand its action. The same could be said about bleach, or any household cleaner, or electrical outlets. Most common things, people have been taught how to use since childhood. However, when the media gets ahold of something... As an example, many people do not know that you can kill yourself with magnets you can purchase for magnet therapy. One day, the powers that be shall endevour an assault against this industry, and the people will be shocked at the death and pain caused by common health magnets. This doesn't make magnet therapy bad or wrong, it's just like everything else: Resources need to be made available for accurate and extensive information, and this needs to be approached from a nuetral standpoint: Both financially and politically. Another example is the numerous people who die from overuse of herbal tinctures and pill supplements, which can, with abuse, knock out the liver in short order. As far as the lady is concerned, if she read the instructions, she would have noticed the very serious warning to NOT use Cansema near ANY mucus membrane without the assistance of a licensed doctor; it could have done more than it did, it could have killed her. Their H3O contains HCL ( so do many FDA approved drugs ); HRX contains Potassium Hydroxide. Both need to be used with understanding, and both are extremely excellent products. There's always a catch 22 with taking personal responsibility for life, and making this available for other people so that they too may have a chance to benefit from real knowledge. There are always issues involved warranting serious consideration. Best Regards, Jason R. Eaton - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: CSaltcancer.com Again List, I found this post about altcancer.com: http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site. Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen. Cansema does indeed produce scary-looking results, but the healing proceeds slowly and without infection. My guess is that the woman who claims to have lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction job. Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will tell. The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon; it would be interesting to find out the basis of this charge. Without any information about the facts, the insinuation is that the man is a habitual criminal. I very much doubt that. I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case. Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com archives on his fine site. I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega; there has been no positive news yet. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDeadly Magnets?
Jason, could you elaborate on this? I have a hard time believing that they have any effect at all. Best Regards, Arnold Beland www.atlasnova.com - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: Re: CSaltcancer.com Again Hi Jonathan: I'm certainly sorry to see the bad publicity against Alpha Omega Labs. I'm sorry that the lady in question did not follow the explicit advice on how to approach using cansema. Greg has always emphatically asked people to get a diagnosis before using Cansema, from a licensed medical doctor. You can't tell before hand, just by looking at the skin, how deep any cancer is. I imagine the lady's story is true. Any such product should be used by those who read carefully, and understand its action. The same could be said about bleach, or any household cleaner, or electrical outlets. Most common things, people have been taught how to use since childhood. However, when the media gets ahold of something... As an example, many people do not know that you can kill yourself with magnets you can purchase for magnet therapy. One day, the powers that be shall endevour an assault against this industry, and the people will be shocked at the death and pain caused by common health magnets. This doesn't make magnet therapy bad or wrong, it's just like everything else: Resources need to be made available for accurate and extensive information, and this needs to be approached from a nuetral standpoint: Both financially and politically. Another example is the numerous people who die from overuse of herbal tinctures and pill supplements, which can, with abuse, knock out the liver in short order. As far as the lady is concerned, if she read the instructions, she would have noticed the very serious warning to NOT use Cansema near ANY mucus membrane without the assistance of a licensed doctor; it could have done more than it did, it could have killed her. Their H3O contains HCL ( so do many FDA approved drugs ); HRX contains Potassium Hydroxide. Both need to be used with understanding, and both are extremely excellent products. There's always a catch 22 with taking personal responsibility for life, and making this available for other people so that they too may have a chance to benefit from real knowledge. There are always issues involved warranting serious consideration. Best Regards, Jason R. Eaton - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: CSaltcancer.com Again List, I found this post about altcancer.com: http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site. Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen. Cansema does indeed produce scary-looking results, but the healing proceeds slowly and without infection. My guess is that the woman who claims to have lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction job. Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will tell. The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon; it would be interesting to find out the basis of this charge. Without any information about the facts, the insinuation is that the man is a habitual criminal. I very much doubt that. I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case. Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com archives on his fine site. I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega; there has been no positive news yet. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/6/2003
Re: CSDeadly Magnets?
Certainly, Arnold, provided that Mike endevours to show a touch of patience for the off-topic posting. I have the very good fortune to be remotely ( although the remotely may soon change ) associated with Dr. Ilonka Harezi of ELF Laboratories. - Original Message - From: Arnold Beland abela...@amerion.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: CSDeadly Magnets? Jason, could you elaborate on this? I have a hard time believing that they have any effect at all. Best Regards, Arnold Beland www.atlasnova.com - Original Message - From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: Re: CSaltcancer.com Again Hi Jonathan: I'm certainly sorry to see the bad publicity against Alpha Omega Labs. I'm sorry that the lady in question did not follow the explicit advice on how to approach using cansema. Greg has always emphatically asked people to get a diagnosis before using Cansema, from a licensed medical doctor. You can't tell before hand, just by looking at the skin, how deep any cancer is. I imagine the lady's story is true. Any such product should be used by those who read carefully, and understand its action. The same could be said about bleach, or any household cleaner, or electrical outlets. Most common things, people have been taught how to use since childhood. However, when the media gets ahold of something... As an example, many people do not know that you can kill yourself with magnets you can purchase for magnet therapy. One day, the powers that be shall endevour an assault against this industry, and the people will be shocked at the death and pain caused by common health magnets. This doesn't make magnet therapy bad or wrong, it's just like everything else: Resources need to be made available for accurate and extensive information, and this needs to be approached from a nuetral standpoint: Both financially and politically. Another example is the numerous people who die from overuse of herbal tinctures and pill supplements, which can, with abuse, knock out the liver in short order. As far as the lady is concerned, if she read the instructions, she would have noticed the very serious warning to NOT use Cansema near ANY mucus membrane without the assistance of a licensed doctor; it could have done more than it did, it could have killed her. Their H3O contains HCL ( so do many FDA approved drugs ); HRX contains Potassium Hydroxide. Both need to be used with understanding, and both are extremely excellent products. There's always a catch 22 with taking personal responsibility for life, and making this available for other people so that they too may have a chance to benefit from real knowledge. There are always issues involved warranting serious consideration. Best Regards, Jason R. Eaton - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: CSaltcancer.com Again List, I found this post about altcancer.com: http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site. Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen. Cansema does indeed produce scary-looking results, but the healing proceeds slowly and without infection. My guess is that the woman who claims to have lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction job. Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will tell. The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon; it would be interesting to find out the basis of this charge. Without any information about the facts, the insinuation is that the man is a habitual criminal. I very much doubt that. I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case. Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com archives on his fine site. I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega; there has been no positive news yet. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/6/2003
Re: CSaltcancer.com Again
Hi, Jason, Well said and well balanced. Glad I caught myself regarding the claims; indeed, it is hard to say whether she had much damage or not. Unlike the testimonials on altcancer.com, this posting had no images to substantiate the claims. Cansema IS very powerful, and must be used with care. As you said, Greg Caton made explicit warnings about this; anyone not seeking MD supervision was doing so at his or her own risk. All the same, I hope Cansema will continue to be available as I have no doubt it is superb product. JBB On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 12:54 Asia/Tokyo, Jason Eaton wrote: Hi Jonathan: I'm certainly sorry to see the bad publicity against Alpha Omega Labs. I'm sorry that the lady in question did not follow the explicit advice on how to approach using cansema. Greg has always emphatically asked people to get a diagnosis before using Cansema, from a licensed medical doctor. You can't tell before hand, just by looking at the skin, how deep any cancer is. I imagine the lady's story is true. Any such product should be used by those who read carefully, and understand its action. The same could be said about bleach, or any household cleaner, or electrical outlets. Most common things, people have been taught how to use since childhood. However, when the media gets ahold of something... As an example, many people do not know that you can kill yourself with magnets you can purchase for magnet therapy. One day, the powers that be shall endevour an assault against this industry, and the people will be shocked at the death and pain caused by common health magnets. This doesn't make magnet therapy bad or wrong, it's just like everything else: Resources need to be made available for accurate and extensive information, and this needs to be approached from a nuetral standpoint: Both financially and politically. Another example is the numerous people who die from overuse of herbal tinctures and pill supplements, which can, with abuse, knock out the liver in short order. As far as the lady is concerned, if she read the instructions, she would have noticed the very serious warning to NOT use Cansema near ANY mucus membrane without the assistance of a licensed doctor; it could have done more than it did, it could have killed her. Their H3O contains HCL ( so do many FDA approved drugs ); HRX contains Potassium Hydroxide. Both need to be used with understanding, and both are extremely excellent products. There's always a catch 22 with taking personal responsibility for life, and making this available for other people so that they too may have a chance to benefit from real knowledge. There are always issues involved warranting serious consideration. Best Regards, Jason R. Eaton - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: CSaltcancer.com Again List, I found this post about altcancer.com: http://lobd.org/si/viewtopic.php?p=8610 Note at bottom the link to an FDA site. Whether or not the claims are true remains to be seen. Cansema does indeed produce scary-looking results, but the healing proceeds slowly and without infection. My guess is that the woman who claims to have lost her nose simply panicked and fell into the clutches of a white-robed businessman who found himself a lucrative reconstruction job. Another possibility is that the whole matter is a set-up. Time will tell. The message calls Greg Caton a convicted felon; it would be interesting to find out the basis of this charge. Without any information about the facts, the insinuation is that the man is a habitual criminal. I very much doubt that. I think the whole matter of the action against altcancer bears close scrutiny and I hope list members will keep one eye on this this case. Thanks again to Justin Eaton for preserving the priceless altcancer.com archives on his fine site. I keep in touch with the folks at Alpha Omega; there has been no positive news yet. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com