Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
ELLE wrote: Thank you very much, paula, for explaining to me about how wide-spread iodine is in the average north-american diet. I still think, though, that it's possible for some people to be low in iodine without being actually deficient. The USRDA for iodine is 80 - 150mcg. On the other hand, the average japanese dietary intake of iodine is 10mg (their diet is high in ocean fish and seaweeds). That's 10 times the amount of the USRDA. Usually, the USRDA is the minimum needed to avoid disease... not for optimum functioning. I'm learning that supplementing iodine, especially when taken as Lugol's solution, must be done with understanding and care. I have only taken it for a few days now and plan to take it for just two or three weeks. I won't know for awhile if this supplementation will help my low body temperature (sign of low thyroid) or not... will see. I'm very sorry to hear about your problem with eczema and wish I could offer some information. Hope you find some relief soon. Elle CRAIG WROTE: There is a very easy way to test for your level of iodine. Simply take a q-tip, dip it into the iodine and paint a quarter size circle on your thigh, stomach...if it is gone in 24hrs, you need more. You can continue in this manner until some is still there after 24 hours. You can also put it on you hand and it will disappear in about 1 hour... After you are topped off, check after 3 days or so on. You'll soon figure out how often you need to swab yourself. Hi Everyone. It's amazing...I'm on six or seven health-oriented lists, and about five of them have been discussing iodine and the thyroid in the past few weeks. Therefore, I have written and posted some articles on the thyroid and iodine on my website. Go to http://www.nenahsylver.com/default.asp?contentID=677toplevel=615 and click onto everything in the right hand box that starts with the word Thyroid. I have found a great deal of information that I think will help clarify some questions people have. With love, Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.nenahsylver.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA question (anna)
anna try a series of liver g/b flushes,and coffee enamas, you must be very toxic. roger Hi Richard, I sent the replies on to Anna, Here is her answer. Hank, I think you may remember this from NWOC. But, I had some CS from Innerlight. The very first time I took it...and it was only about 5 drops under my tonguemy throat closed up...I had an allergic reaction. I almost went into anaphylactic shock. Grabbed my inhaler just in time. Drank lots of pure water. I was told that it must've not been very good CS but I'm VERY sensitive to pills, drugs, herbs, etcso I have to admit I'm afraid to try it again. I don't even take pain meds like tylenol unless it's severe. I've got a really strong immune system...knock on wood, I've not been sick with a virus or flu since the week after 9/11. I had bronchitis for over a month...from the chem spraying which was heavy when aircraft could fly again. I had it so bad, I thought I'd die with it. But since, I've not even had a cold. I've had allergic reaction stuff..throat closing up, stuffy sinuses, watery eyes, etc. but no infection, cold, virus, etc. So - I don't have any CS. ??? Anna Sincerely Yours, Hank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
Thanks Craig, After 56 yrs as a FL Pharmacist, I've probably been exposed to your explanation before, but if, it had slipped my mind. I applaud your refreshing us with this simple, yet effective iiodine test. Happy New Year to you and ALL! Sincerely, Richard Harris -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 8:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's Craig, I think I'll skip that one.. paula - Original Message - From: Craig Chamberlin cchamber...@itsmyplace.com There is a very easy way to test for your level of iodine. Simply take a q-tip, dip it into the iodine and paint a quarter size circle on your thigh, stomach...if it is gone in 24hrs, you need more. You can continue in this manner until some is still there after 24 hours. You can also put it on you hand and it will disappear in about 1 hour... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
Dear Paula Elle, Thanks for your contributions to this site! I agree, the Government Agencies are supposed to inform and help protect WE THE PEOPLE, who pay their expenses--instead, they sell out to the highest payers who will profit from their labelling or lack thereof and figuratively say, To Hell with The People! That is one main reason why each individual MUST accept the responsibility and wake up and take control of our individual health! Reason with your health care giver; help educate them to the Natural Healing that God surrounds us with that has nothing to do with Giant Pharmaceutical Manufacturers who have interest ONLY in their bottom line and keeping their stockholders happy. In Bob Beck's famous 1996 lecture, he stated that 51% of the stockholders of the above Phamaceutical Companies are the Mafia--shocking, but probably true--In what other parts of the market can they invest with a guaranteed huge profit for something that people feel is essential to support life? Sorry to get carried away, but these ideas are a burr under my saddle. Happy New Year and Good Health to ALL! Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 8:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's I am not speaking of the USRDA at all.it has nothing at all to do with the now ubiquitous presence in foods of non-labelled iodine containing ingredients. Anyone who eats anything is getting a lot more iodine than they would suppose. And the USDA analyses are not re-done very often. I have no confidence at all that they reflect the current madness for iodine containing fertilizers and the like. It is my personal belief that iodine allergy is much more common than realized, as there are a lot of people suffering skin allergies and it is thought that in only 25% of cases is the cause ever found. The near invisibility of iodine and the fact that even doctors don't often know that povidone, etc are iodine, makes very likely that it often goes unrecognized. And in fact, I've read people going in for certain medical imaging and tests that use injected iodine sometimes die because of unsuspected iodine allergy which they were not aware they had. paula - Original Message - From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com T Thank you very much, paula, for explaining to me about how wide-spread iodine is in the average north-american diet. I still think, though, that it's possible for some people to be low in iodine without being actually deficient. The USRDA for iodine is 80 - 150mcg. On the other hand, the average japanese dietary intake of iodine is 10mg (their diet is high in ocean fish and seaweeds). That's 10 times the amount of the USRDA. Usually, the USRDA is the minimum needed to avoid disease... not for optimum functioning. I'm learning that supplementing iodine, especially when taken as Lugol's solution, must be done with understanding and care. I have only taken it for a few days now and plan to take it for just two or three weeks. I won't know for awhile if this supplementation will help my low body temperature (sign of low thyroid) or not... will see. I'm very sorry to hear about your problem with eczema and wish I could offer some information. Hope you find some relief soon. Elle From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com Elle, Since I've been avoiding iodine (because of increasingly severe allergy) for 19 years now, and still do not have a goiter (MD says if no goiter, one is NOT avoiding all iodine completely), I personally find it hard to believe that any person in the U.S. who eats is iodine deficient at all. If I am even close to right, then it would not take much direct iodine supplementation to cause excess. These days, iodine is in everything, sometimes directly added as povidone or crospovidone to multiple vitamins, other vitamin-mineral supplements, and most OTC drugs such as Tylenol, Advil, etc. Indirectly as sea salt, iodized salt, and the various and multitudinous seaweeed products such as carrageenan, algin, etc. Indirectly also in the basic food supply through seaweed/kelp fertilizers and shellfish/fish feeds.. Look for seaweed thickeners such as carrageenan and algin also in toothpastes and many other personal care products, and algin, etc, even in popsicles (popsicles!). Add in that such need not be labelled in many foods/products: you are getting iodine often when the label doesn't say so. If you add up all the sources of iodine the average american ingests daily, I don't see how anyone needs supplementation. And since I've had eczema for 10 months of the past 12, the unavoidability of iodine is frightening. I'm not talking a simple itch here, but severe discomfort and pain. Not funny. paula _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection
RE: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test
Hi Elle, You've Done It Again! Thanks for your excellent reference to Dr. David Derry, Thyroid Specialist and his very informative message and use of Iodine! Happy New Year! Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: silversurfer1952 . [mailto:silversurfer1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test Hi Craig, I have read about this painting iodine on the skin test. But just two days ago I came across this article by Dr David Derry, thyroid specialist from Canada, who has a different opinion of this test... http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm (Interesting article, by the way) Elle From: Craig Chamberlin cchamber...@itsmyplace.com Greetings, There is a very easy way to test for your level of iodine. Simply take a q-tip, dip it into the iodine and paint a quarter size circle on your thigh, stomach...if it is gone in 24hrs, you need more. You can continue in this manner until some is still there after 24 hours. You can also put it on you hand and it will disappear in about 1 hour... After you are topped off, check after 3 days or so on. You'll soon figure out how often you need to swab yourself. Ciao, Craig _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn .com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother theory of how zapper works
Marshall, according to my information, hydrogen and oxygen are generated in electrolysis at the surface of conductors (e.g. metal electrodes). To enter the body they have somehow to be injected. Guenter Marshall Dudley schrieb: I have been exploring a number of patents on using a 30 or so khz unipolar pulses to split water into hydrogen and oxygen (essentially a zapper). This technique is reported to cause the spitting of the water between the electrodes, instead of at the electrodes like normal electrolysis, and bubbles of hydrogen, and oxygen bubble up from the water between the electrodes at very high efficiency (reported to be over 100% but lets not get into that). Now, if this is true, when the water splits, initially H2 and monatomic oxygen are produced. Monatomic oxygen will quickly attempt to react with something, and will end up as either O2 or H2O2. The result is going to be oxygen and hydrogen peroxide being generated in many places where it normally would not be, I.E. inside of pathogens. And of course we all know that H2O2 kills pathogens as well. I have ordered an old air variable tuner and am going to do some experiments along this vein. Perhaps zapping have more than one way it works. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test
- Original Message - From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test Hi Craig, I have read about this painting iodine on the skin test. But just two days ago I came across this article by Dr David Derry, thyroid specialist from Canada, who has a different opinion of this test... http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm (Interesting article, by the way) Elle Personally, I have found the iodine skin patch test to be highly accurate. This is simply my own experience. Nenah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test - OOPS
- Original Message - From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test Hi Craig, I have read about this painting iodine on the skin test. But just two days ago I came across this article by Dr David Derry, thyroid specialist from Canada, who has a different opinion of this test... http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm (Interesting article, by the way) Elle OOPS - serves me right for hitting send too fast. Personally, I have found the iodine skin patch test to be highly accurate. This is simply my own experience. However, I always appreciate hearing other people's perspectives. Thanks for sending this, Elle. Nenah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS1936 Readers Digest, note on Iodine
So, where are all there colloids now? Dan CS1936 Readers Digest, note on Iodine * From: jrowland (view other messages by this author) * Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:05:03 From a widely quoted 1936 Readers Digest, 'Chemistry's Miraculous Colloids': ...In colloidal form iodine, for example, is one of the elements essential to the well-being of human cells. Yet if you should drink as much as two or three grains of free iodine, it would kill you. Dr. Macy, when explaining this, held up an eight ounce cup full of colloidal iodine. There, he said,is the equivalent of 740 grains of free iodine - enough to kill 300 men. And he drank it. In that form iodine is not only harmless but beneficial. The same is true of arsenic and other deadly poisons... http://www.robeysilver.com/Readers.htm jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPainting Iodine on the skin test
Hi list, Here's another use for iodine. I have Dupuytren's contracture and have been painting potassium iodide (SSKI) on it for a while. SSKI is a saturated solution of potassium iodide. The contracture is going down and I think it's going to disappear. I was told by my doctor the only fix was to have surgery. WRONG ! I started the SSKI before my finger began pulling down. I had the problem for years but thought it was just a callus from turning a screwdriver and rubbing/twisting the handle into my palm as I used it. Following are excerpts concerning the use of SSKI. It is quite long but has a lot of info. I will post it to the off topic list. Trem Dupuytren's contracture and Peyronie's disease are two fibrotic conditions that can be helped considerably by SSKI. In Dupuytren's contracture, thickening (fibrosis) occurs along one of the tendons in the palm in the hand, pulling the related finger down towards the palm. As the problem progresses, the finger often can't be straightened any more. In Peyronie's disease, a very similar thickening occurs along the shaft of the penis, making erections increasing curved and painful. In both cases, rubbing SSKI into the thickened tissue at least twice daily softens and lessens the fibrotic area over a period of several months, allowing for more normal function. For these conditions, it's additionally helpful to take para_aminobenzoic acid (PABA) 2 grams, three times daily, and to rub a mixture of Vitamin E and DMSO into the thickened areas, also. However, if caught early, SSKI alone will often do the job. (It's also advisable to have glucose_insulin tolerance test done, as there's an unusually high incidence of insulin resistance in people with Dupuytren's contracture or Peyronie's disease. Keloids are abnormally thick scars, sometimes as much as an inch thick, that can form after injury. Although anyone can get a keloid, they're more common among blacks than other ethnic groups. Rubbing SSKI into a keloid at least twice daily will ultimately flatten them down to a normal scar, but it can take many months to a year for particularly bad ones. The treatment goes faster if SSKI is mixed 50_50 with DMSO. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS website
Hi, I am dropping in to visit this list again after a long absense. Apart from Mike, I don't know how many of the folks who were around when I was last here are still here. I was interested in the responses of the members to this website: www.invive.com I think I will withhold my own comments until I read others. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS website
Hi Terry, Welcome back. I couldn't get more than a few paragraphs down the left side of the home page before I had to leave. I was starting to get too hot under the collar. That's the type of site that should be gotten after by some authority for disseminating false information. Trem - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:51 PM Subject: [silver_list] CSCS website Hi, I am dropping in to visit this list again after a long absense. Apart from Mike, I don't know how many of the folks who were around when I was last here are still here. I was interested in the responses of the members to this website: www.invive.com I think I will withhold my own comments until I read others. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS website
Hi Terry: It's been my experience that nearly all promoters of mild silver protein are extremely unscrupulous. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:51 PM Subject: CSCS website Hi, I am dropping in to visit this list again after a long absense. Apart from Mike, I don't know how many of the folks who were around when I was last here are still here. I was interested in the responses of the members to this website: www.invive.com I think I will withhold my own comments until I read others. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS website
this is the best msp/c.silver i have used, just drink your DISTILLED water like it says. roger Terry Chamberlin wrote: Hi, I am dropping in to visit this list again after a long absense. Apart from Mike, I don't know how many of the folks who were around when I was last here are still here. I was interested in the responses of the members to this website: www.invive.com I think I will withhold my own comments until I read others. Terry Chamberlin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS website
Arthur Thomas text, Colloid Chemistry (1934) mentions two methods of converting solutions of ionic silver into colloidal silver. 1) Reduction of ionic silver into neutral particulate by bubbling hydrogen gas through the solution. 2) Reduction of ionic silver into neutral particulate by exposing the solution to UV. Neither of these methods require the mild protein stabilizer. Matthew
CSRe: CS website
I was interested in the responses of the members to this website http://www.invive.com ...---Terry From their site's left column: ...This is another key reason why this is the only product that gave the documented Medical Journal Results for 650 pathogens because it was sold at strengths of 500+ p.p.m... Nowhere is this site's claim of providing 'scientific' documentation fulfilled, other than the oft-quoted Rocky Mountain Labs IN VITRO results---and that comes nowhere near the magic 650 number. No in vivo Medical Journals references are cited, as their name---'Invive'---might imply. Seems their site is just asking to be shut down by the FDA/FTC for false claims. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS website..COMMENT
Dear Terry, I am confident you will get a number of responses to your inquiry. My comment addresses the questionable advisability of consuming ANY mild silver protein product. While there does not appear to be any danger to the general health of individuals ingesting MSP-based CS, there is CERTAINLY a danger of argyriamost especially if the agent is poorly made or unrealized trace contaminates are compounded with the protein fraction. Manufacturing high ppm colloidal silver does, in fact, encourage the less capable and or poorly equipped small commercial enterpriseto be tempted to utilize MSP as an adjuvant. The claims, of this website, denigrating low ppm colloidal silver products serves to reinforce my suspicion (similar to that of Jason) that many marketing firms using this tactic are very suspect regarding their reliability in the exclusive claims allied to their product. This becomes of some moment in view of the many studies/evaluations (ours included) that have confirmed beyond reasonable doubtthe very powerful effects of electrically-generated CS products exhibiting ppms in the 3 ppm range. Commercial firms radiating an aura of exclusivity in their claims should...in my opinionbe viewed with a jaundiced eyeone might call this the Religious Zeal Effect, based upon too much hypeand too few data. Best Wishes to All for a Most Prosperous 2004. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- - Original Message - DATE: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:51:55 From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Hi, I am dropping in to visit this list again after a long absense. Apart from Mike, I don't know how many of the folks who were around when I was last here are still here. I was interested in the responses of the members to this website: www.invive.com I think I will withhold my own comments until I read others. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com
CSBrooks, parvo, thank you
Dear Brooks, I just wanted to thank you for the post on parvo. We took in an old Corgi mix, Abraham, who was thin, rough coat, and had cataracts. We decided not to vaccinate him for parvo due to his poor physical health. We had hoped that he might have been vaccinated in the past and had built up some of immunity. Abraham began to put on weight and generally seemed delighted with all his new found animal friends. One day we noticed he was getting thin. We wormed him again and waited. He seemed to slightly improve. Then, very unexpectedly he collapsed with parvo. It came on so sudden and so severe we were sure we would loose him. Having saved your protocol on parvo we figured we would follow that to the t, and forgo any of the usual drugs that can sometimes be of benefit in parvo cases. Since we did not expect him to survive anyway it seemed the only logical choice. Frantically I searched my data base for the protocol. We began administering our homemade silver orally and rectally. Abraham could not stand, was limp as a rag doll. Throughout the night we continued with the multiple route dosages every hour or two. I would read and reread your passage even the most moribund and would find encouragement in those words. By morning there was improvement, and by day two he was eating again. Today Abraham is hail and hearty, shinny coat, looking better than we have ever seen him. The only other protocols we gave him were the usual gamut of supportive vitamins etc. that one administers after a catastrophic incident. For awhile after the parvo, Abraham would excrete what looked like the hard, grey rubber like substance that comes off when the intestinal wall sloughs off years of hardened debris. In the rubbery mass was straw, so we surmise he had eaten straw at one time to supplement his diet. Sadie, our great dane, did pass on from Lyme disease. Some of you may remember my post on the silver injections helping her. It is with great interest that I read the many faces of lyme and the difficulty in treatment thereof. Still, the silver eased her symptoms and brought some relief. We tried everything with Sadie, conventional and non conventional to say that lyme is relentless is an understatement. In the end we were grateful her suffering was over and would rather bear the pain in our hearts than to see her in so much pain. If anyone out there has a collection of Brooks post in some pdf or other format that they could send me, please pm me and I can give you my isp email address. I would so appreciate this. I go through the archives looking for Brooks post and save every one. They are truly the most well written and researched documents on the silver list that I have found. Your kindness in sharing all your research with us Brooks is instrumental in helping so many. Your protocol saved Abraham, and now I do not live in fear of parvo anymore. I know it can be successfully treated. If there was ever a dog that would succumb it would be Abraham. I do so thank you from the bottom of my heart for the time and caring you share with us on this list. A rose _ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother theory of how zapper works
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:29:36 +0100, Guenter Poelz po...@mail.desy.de wrote: Marshall, according to my information, hydrogen and oxygen are generated in electrolysis at the surface of conductors (e.g. metal electrodes). To enter the body they have somehow to be injected. Guenter, I think that was Marshall's point. Using a pulse somewhere in the 30 kHz range, several people have claimed to be able to produce electrolysis in the gap between the electrodes. Another claim is that this method of producing hydrogen is 100+ % efficient (the amount of gas produced is equal in energy to the amount of energy used to produce the pulses). What Marshall was conjecturing, is that, maybe, just maybe, Clark's zapper works by producing electrolysis inside the body, resulting in the production of H2O2 within the cells. It's been known for a long time that H2O2 will kill pathogens, and it's also been known for many decades that the body produces H2O2 (through the use of vitamin C and other stuff) as part of it's immune response. (See articles by Dr. William Campbell Douglass). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother theory of how zapper works
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:35:11 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: I have ordered an old air variable tuner and am going to do some experiments along this vein. What's that for? Aren't you talking kiloHertz, not megaHertz? Wouldn't a low-cost pulse generator be more effective? -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRadio Pioneer?
I guess I missed most of this discussion over Christmas. The patents for radio were awarded to Nicola Tesla after a long court battle. Marconi, a friend of Tesla's, always said that his equipment used Tesla's methods -- he made no secret of it. The key behind successful radio is the use of double-tuned circuits (which is the basis for the patent decision). Tesla successfully used radio transmitters/receivers to remote-control boats (and even a submarine) in the 1890's. I've not heard of the American Dentist, nor what he did. I am aware of a guy named Stubblefield that used electromagnetics to communicate -- but they weren't radio (the frequency of transmission couldn't easily be controlled). On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:39 -0700, James Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: The first to transmit a signal via radio was an American Dentist; probably in Arkansas. He used a kite to hold up the antenna wire. JOH -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 8:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRadio Pioneer? List, Did someone mention a radio pioneer apropos the matter of patents? I skimmed over my postings, thought I read this, but now can not find it. It was very brief I think. If the person who posted this would be kind enough to elaborate by direct e-mail, I would be curious to hear more. I am told that Marconi was nearly put away because of his claims about radio wave propagation -- it was unbelievable. JBB -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
Please tell me, again, someone..can I find lugol's solution in a pharmacy? Donna
Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:53:10 -0800, Craig Chamberlin cchamber...@itsmyplace.com wrote: There is a very easy way to test for your level of iodine. Simply take a q-tip, dip it into the iodine and paint a quarter size circle on your thigh, stomach...if it is gone in 24hrs, you need more. You can continue in this manner until some is still there after 24 hours. You can also put it on you hand and it will disappear in about 1 hour... Yup. But this works best with an iodine tincture, not a water soluble solution such a Lugol's. (I couldn't get Lugol's to make a mark on me :) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS1936 Readers Digest, note on Iodine
Hmm. That's pretty interesting. I wonder how one goes about making electrodes out of iodine. :) On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:00:33 -0800, jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: From a widely quoted 1936 Readers Digest, 'Chemistry's Miraculous Colloids': ...In colloidal form iodine, for example, is one of the elements essential to the well-being of human cells. Yet if you should drink as much as two or three grains of free iodine, it would kill you. Dr. Macy, when explaining this, held up an eight ounce cup full of colloidal iodine. There, he said,is the equivalent of 740 grains of free iodine - enough to kill 300 men. And he drank it. In that form iodine is not only harmless but beneficial. The same is true of arsenic and other deadly poisons... http://www.robeysilver.com/Readers.htm jr -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test
WOW!!! What a great article (as I dig out my Lugol's). On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:47:06 -0800, silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com wrote: I have read about this painting iodine on the skin test. But just two days ago I came across this article by Dr David Derry, thyroid specialist from Canada, who has a different opinion of this test... http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm (Interesting article, by the way) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMeasuring Pollution in Humans
December 27, 2003 Scientists begin measuring pollution in human bodies...in a process called biomonitoring, scientists are sampling urine, blood and mother's milk to catalogue the pollutants accumulating in humans. They call the results body burden ...tests...at $5,000 apiece... http://makeashorterlink.com/?B437427E6 jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
You can get it in small amounts from DR. Clark.net web page or I get mine from a pharmacy compounding supply in South Dakota. The price went up to $32.00 a pint plus hasmat shipping of near that much. a couple yrs ago it was only $16.00 a pint at the same place and reg shipping. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. alopez...@aol.com wrote: Please tell me, again, someone..can I find lugol's solution in a pharmacy? Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:impacted wisdom tooth
Everybody, I too have some big questions as to CS and the mouth. Please ADVISE ME on what to do. My dentist has told me to have at least two wisdom teeth pulled, and I'm fifty three. my wife is keen I don't have the teeth pulled, that this is all about dentists making money, and their playing extra safe. But the dentist, and others, tell me infecting bone behind the teeth is a life threatening condition. It seems to me that if one were drinking lots of CS consistently that this kind of infection wouldn't arise. But how the heck much? And the idea of a zapper sounds good, thanks to dlinen. I think I'd also go, in a heart beat, for the godzilla B.E. device, DC in small doses. Then there's a CS/ DMSO combination, though I think this is preventive, not remedy. Still, the dentist also says that the proximity of the horizontal teeth to the nerve is becoming more dicey as one gets older. He says that removal later on brings more risk of some nerve disorder, brought on by a tricky operation. I guess what I really need is something to tell my wife, since she usually makes the decisions (then convinces me *I* made the decision). THANKS FOR ANY OBSERVATIONS. Thanks, Reid Hanneke said: I woke up this morning with throbbing pain in lower right jaw where I have a not-as-yet surfaced wisdom tooth. Acc to X-ray taken 2 months ago, this molar looked very healthy and dentist did not see reason to take it out. (This was just before oral surgery to remove 2 molars plus cleaning of cavitations). It being Boxing Day, in Festive Season, with the dentist not available until 4th of January , what else can I do to stop this from developing any further. It's steadily swelling, the pain gradually increasing, even slight pressure of tongue against it when swallowing liquid becomes rather painful. Have been having CS, my 3rd glass sipping now, with castor pack on swollen jaw, none with noticeable improvement as yet. What else can I do before getting stuck into a bottle of Vodka? Any suggestions welcome. Thanks Hanneke ~ Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
Hi Dean, Yup. But this works best with an iodine tincture, not a water soluble solution such a Lugol's. (I couldn't get Lugol's to make a mark on me :) Must be something different in our bodies...I could paint my whole body with it...now having said that, I always apply it shortly after showering, so normal body oils, or whatever aren't there. Try it on the palm of your hand...the absorption rate is amazing. Ciao, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Pharmacy question / Lugol's
Hi Donna, Please tell me, again, someone..can I find lugol's solution in a pharmacy? First try a local scientific supply company...saves on shipping. I paid $29.00 including shipping from Electron Microscopy Sciences for one liter...price is still the same. $19.00 for 500ml. NB: 1 liter is a LOT. http://www.emsdiasum.com/ems/histology/stain_sol.html#26055 Ciao, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Painting Iodine on the skin test
Hi Dean, WOW!!! What a great article (as I dig out my Lugol's). I have a few points which I find not to be my experience. 1) Evaporation: Within a minute or so (maybe two) you cannot rub the stain off from either me or my wife. 2) More people have spoken about the efficacy of this method (Ninah, and others), in contradiction to what the articles says. The article does present some additional 'good stuff.' I guess 'your milage may vary' is appropriate here:) Ciao, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
