RE: CSRe the V.I.B.E machine-- alternative Homeopathic remedies
Hi Ian and Ernie; I find that homeopathic remedies have selective vibrations that resonate with matching ones that sort of knock them out. So if you have a bruising injury you would use arnica and Ledum for instance and knock out the pain, inflammation and bruising or at least speed up the healing of it in much shorter time. For burns you would use remedies like Cantharis, Calendula and Utica urens and if given soon enough and often enough you could also prevent blistering and pain. Louise -Original Message- From: Yogiboy [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 5:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe the V.I.B.E machine Hi Ian, I have to agree with you, there must be a more inexpensive way to raise energy frequencies in the body besides looking for outside sources. ( so to speak ) I have gone to the website which u have mentioned and looked at it briefly. Here is my take on things. As a society we are bombarded with information of all sorts about this and that which can do this and that. I am a firm believer that it comes down to one thing. US, WE as individuals determines our states. Through my own personal studies I have come to the conclusion from the help of many advanced practitioners and books that we often look without for healing instead of within. Vibration healing does work, but would ultimately require ones own desire to heal and not be dependant on an outward source. It is easy to fall into this trap to believe that healing is out there. To be spiritual isn't being religious so I would have to say this is universal. Not belonging to one specific belief. Usually, true healing does involve ones belief in God. God is universal. I'll have to look into what other means of healing there is without getting a second mortgage. Thanks for your imput Ian, I appreciate it and definitely worth further investigation. Happy holidays. Ernie -Original Message- From: Ian Roe [mailto:ian_onta...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe the V.I.B.E machine Hi: This thread seems to be continuing so I thought I would comment. Doesn't the human body have its own internal wave forms and frequencies? When we encounter things that have forms and frequencies other than what is in our body don't they tend to bring us out of tune with the way we were intended to be? My understanding is that there are things for sale out there that help us to return to, or vibrate at the frequencies at which we were designed to. The reason I mention this is because I think Colloidal silver has an inherent frequency or quality that makes it impossible for pathogens to live and it doesn't seem to take us out of tune. Colloidal silver doesn't cost very much. I think there must be a whole lot of other things out there that don't cost a great deal that can be used to bring us back into Tune so to speak. I've looked at the QXCI, the SCIO and the BIOMERIDIAN and they are all priced from $14000 to $2. They all appear to work very well. The government may not like these machines but here, there is a 15% tax on the sale of one of these contraptions over and above the cost of the unit. There is an incrdible amount of mark up on these units and sales commissions. It's true, they do work but it sure would be good to hear about low cost alternatives. Matter = energy. It seems reasonable that if you change one side of this equation that something would also change on the other side as well. There must be some very inexpensive ways out there to achieve beneficial kinds of changes we are looking for when it comes to energy therapies. I discovered one of the most powerful ones I had ever seen, last June called Emotional Freedom Techniques or EFT. The manual can be downloaded free on the internet and the method learned and used at zero cost. Are there other methods out there that people know of that don't have religion, theology or dollar signs all over them? Ian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
RE: CSHappy Birthday Richard!
Thanks Himagain and To All on this wonderful Site. Thank EACH of you for the excellent, generous, helpful information you share with us seekers! A Happy, Healthy, Prosperous New Year to each of you as you seek to share CS with many who have no other means of learning about it! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHappy Birthday Richard! Happy Belated Birthday Richard! What an achievement! On all points! Cheers! Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
Re: CSTsunami
Why not? All that would be needed is some silver and a car battery. Use the purist water that can be found, it might make a witches brew of silver compounds, but it would still be better than nothing under the conditions. Marshall bbanever wrote: Matthew - Reports now say the death toll will exceed 35,000 and probably go much higher. This is a disaster of historical proportions not much one could do when everything around you is destroyed. CS would be a godsend in a situation like this, but you wouldn't have the means of making any. Bob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
Re: CSHappy Birthday Richard!
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CSOT, but interesting
Has anyone heard anything about Condoleeza Rice lately? She was last heard of as resting from her surgery and cancer treatment. It has been nearly a month, maybe more, and not one word has been in mainstream news. Curious. Has she died from her 'treatment'? Anybody know anything? This should go on the ot list and I hope any replies go there. It's just that so few read the ot list. That's why I posted this here. Or tried to anyway. Mike might catch me. ahahahpj __ Do you Yahoo!? Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
Re: CSOT, but interesting
Well, since she is not a member of Clintons cabinet, she's probably OK. Even though we don't know about her right now. - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: CSOT, but interesting Has anyone heard anything about Condoleeza Rice lately? She was last heard of as resting from her surgery and cancer treatment. It has been nearly a month, maybe more, and not one word has been in mainstream news. Curious. Has she died from her 'treatment'? Anybody know anything? This should go on the ot list and I hope any replies go there. It's just that so few read the ot list. That's why I posted this here. Or tried to anyway. Mike might catch me. ahahahpj __ Do you Yahoo!? Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004
CSCS use on pets sucess
This is a report from a pet owner I gave some of my home made CS to to try on her pony with cateracts (Blind) as a bat she told me. in her note to me she took it on her on to try CS on some growths on her dogs. This is a good report. I had very good sucess with a horse of heres that was run through a fence by a MT. Lion. The horse was hurt bad with a hunk of meat torn out of her chest the size of a pound of butter, it completle healed by soaking clean rags with CS and Duct Tape applecation. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ ~ Hi Tel. Still not early enough to tell if the silver is going to work on the ponies cataracts, I sure hope it does, however, two of my dogs have had some kind of growth on them, one above the eye, about the size of a medium size tick. Sprayed the silver on it and it is gone. And on the older dog my husband noticed a growth on the lip a little over a week ago. It was the size of a pea, so I started spraying it a couple times a day, and I noticed today that it is just about all gone. Hurrah for the silver. Now I pray that the pony gets it's sight back. The vet said he has two or three cataracts in one eye and one in the other and the one with the one has something attached to it. He is getting to where he takes off now when he knows I am coming into the stall to spray him. I wish I could say it was because he could see that I had the halter in my hand but I don't think so. I think he has very good hearing. Corinne
Re: CSOT, but interesting
In a message dated 12/28/2004 2:44:46 PM Central Standard Time, pj20...@yahoo.com writes: She was last heard of as resting from her surgery and cancer treatment. Oh, I had NO idea. Please don't post additional info on the OT list -- I don't read there. And I really like Condoleeza Rice. MA
RE: CSCS use on pets sucess
CS effects on cataracts presumes the cause of cataracts as some organism that CS will kill. Although this is possible I suppose I have never seen any reference to it in the literature. Other good treatments for Cataracts are Cayenne pepper solution as eye drops and/or N-Acetyl-Carnosine as eye drops. The function of the latter are to increase the circulation to the eye.. _ From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS use on pets sucess This is a report from a pet owner I gave some of my home made CS to to try on her pony with cateracts (Blind) as a bat she told me. in her note to me she took it on her on to try CS on some growths on her dogs. This is a good report. I had very good sucess with a horse of heres that was run through a fence by a MT. Lion. The horse was hurt bad with a hunk of meat torn out of her chest the size of a pound of butter, it completle healed by soaking clean rags with CS and Duct Tape applecation. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ ~ Hi Tel. Still not early enough to tell if the silver is going to work on the ponies cataracts, I sure hope it does, however, two of my dogs have had some kind of growth on them, one above the eye, about the size of a medium size tick. Sprayed the silver on it and it is gone. And on the older dog my husband noticed a growth on the lip a little over a week ago. It was the size of a pea, so I started spraying it a couple times a day, and I noticed today that it is just about all gone. Hurrah for the silver. Now I pray that the pony gets it's sight back. The vet said he has two or three cataracts in one eye and one in the other and the one with the one has something attached to it. He is getting to where he takes off now when he knows I am coming into the stall to spray him. I wish I could say it was because he could see that I had the halter in my hand but I don't think so. I think he has very good hearing. Corinne
Re: CSBS or Fact ? CS web page
Mike Monett wrote: Re: CSBS or Fact ? CS web page From: Marshall Dudley Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:19:40 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m76620.html Pure BS. If you look at the effectiveness curve of silver particles, they peak at 10 or so ppm, then drop dramatically up to 200 or so ppm because you don't get more particles, but bigger particles which have less mobility and permeability. Once you get into the hundreds of ppm of silver (which requires stabilizers such as a gelatin like protein, or making into a soluble silver compound such as silver citrate), then the effectiveness does appear to increase due to the sheer amount of silver in the concoction. I would say this stuff would likely be a good way to get argyria, yet have an effectiveness no better than 5 or 10 ppm EIS. Marshall Marshall, I agree with you on the argyria, and was hoping the results of your milk test would give you additional insight in the production of cs. It doesn't make any difference how large or how small the particles are. They are various forms of silver oxide and are inert. They have little or no biological activity. Silver oxide (2AgO) dissolves and will not form particles, it forms a solution. The particles are pure colloidal silver particles. If any silver oxide is present then it will part of the ionic silver portion. The oxides are formed when silver ions combine with hydroxyl ions in the Nernst Diffusion layer next to each electrode. Here are the basic equations: Silver plus hydroxyl radicals produce silver hydroxide, not silver oxide. Ionic silver is for all practical purposes a dilute solution of silver hydroxide. Silver Electrolysis ~~~ At the anode, a silver atom gives up an electron to become an ion. Ag(s) - e -- Ag(+) At the cathode, water dissociates and hydrogen ions accept electrons to form hydrogen gas: H2O -- H(+) + OH(-) 2H(+) + 2e -- H2(g) So for every silver ion, one hydroxyl ion is produced. That is correct. Ion Diffusion ~ The ions diffuse throughout the solution, mainly by convection currents. I posted two experiments earlier that show how to make these ions visible: CS Making Ions Visible http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61491.html Re: CS Making Ions Visible http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61527.html The significance of these experiments is that the two ion clouds passed through each other without combining to form oxides. The reason is the ions have to be very close to each other and headed almost directly towards each other before they will combine. This requires a very high density of ions to give a reasonable chance to combine, which only occurs in the Nernst Diffusion layer close to each electrode. Actually water is full of H+ and OH- radicals (10^-7 of water molecules in pure water will be disassociated), so the Ag+ has no problem associating with an OH radical, whether from disassociation of the water, or from the cathode. Oxide Formation ~~~ When the ion concentration of both species is high enough, the silver ions combine with the hydroxyl ions to form silver oxides. No, a hydroxyl has a hydrogen in it. When it combines with Ag+ it forms a hydroxide, not an oxide. Ag+ + OH- = AgOH That is the form that ionic silver is in from the point of being made. There are at least two paths: Path #1: One silver ion combines with one hydroxyl ion to form silver hydroxide: Ag(+) + OH(-) -- AgOH (silver hydroxide) That is correct. This occurs as soon as a silver ion is produced at the cathode. Or they combine and produce a silver particle. Typically about 90% form the hydroxide, and 10% form a particle in most EIS setups. The silver hydroxide dissociates to form silver oxide particles: 2AgOH -- Ag2O + H2O(silver oxide) Although silver hydroxide is quite unstable in solid or concentrated form, it appears to be quite stable in pure water in the 10 ppm or so range. I do not think this disassociating take place unless the ionic silver evaporates, or is exposed to certain chemicals, or at concentrations above 20 ppm at least. Path #2: Two silver ions combine with two hydroxyl ions to form silver oxide: 2Ag(+) + 2OH(-) -- Ag2O + H2O That works on paper, but have you seen any evidence of it? The concentration of OH is quite sparse, only a few ppm, so although the Ag+ should find one rather quickly to pair with, it is quite unlikely to find two simultaneously to pair with. Conclusions ~~~ The Nernst Diffusion layer is essential to understanding the limits of cs production, and this single concept explains many of the factors involved in making high quality cs.
Re: CSCS use on pets sucess
Another thing that works for some is putting a couple of drops of flax seed oil in the eye several times a day. It dissolves out the hydrogenated fats in the lens that may cloud it. Marshall David W Kenney wrote: CS effects on cataracts presumes the cause of cataracts as some organism that CS will kill. Although this is possible I suppose I have never seen any reference to it in the literature. Other good treatments for Cataracts are Cayenne pepper solution as eye drops and/or N-Acetyl-Carnosine as eye drops. The function of the latter are to increase the circulation to the eye . --- From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 20046:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS use on pets sucess This is areport from a pet owner I gave some of my home made CS to to try on her pony with cateracts (Blind) as a bat she told me. in her note to me she took it on her on to try CS on some growths on her dogs. This is a good report. I had very good sucess with a horse of heres that was run through a fence by a MT.Lion. The horse was hurt bad with a hunk of meat torn out of her chest the size of a pound of butter, it completle healed by soaking clean rags with CS and Duct Tape applecation. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ ~ Hi Tel. Still not early enough to tell if the silver is going to work on the ponies cataracts, I sure hope it does, however, two of my dogs have had some kind of growth on them, one above the eye, about the size of a medium size tick. Sprayed the silver on it and it is gone. And on the older dog my husband noticed a growth on the lip a little over a week ago. It was the size of a pea, so I started spraying it a couple times a day, and I noticed today that it is just about all gone. Hurrah for the silver. Now I pray that the pony gets it's sight back. The vet said he has two or three cataracts in one eye and one in the other and the one with the one has something attached to it. He is getting to where he takes off now when he knows I am coming into the stall to spray him. I wish I could say it was because he could see that I had the halter in my hand but I don't think so. I think he has very good hearing. Corinne
Re: CSHappy Birthday Richard!
Dear Richard, Belated Happy Birthday wishes! I much appreciate your contributions to the Silverlist, and hope you stick around and continue them for many years to come! sol Richard Harris wrote: Thanks Himagain and To All on this wonderful Site. Thank EACH of you for the excellent, generous, helpful information you share with us seekers! A Happy, Healthy, Prosperous New Year to each of you as you seek to share CS with many who have no other means of learning about it! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT, but interesting
What cancer?? I heard she had some uterine cysts removed, a simple procedure. Marshalee Has anyone heard anything about Condoleeza Rice lately? She was last heard of as resting from her surgery and cancer treatment. It has been nearly a month, maybe more, and not one word has been in mainstream news. Curious. Has she died from her 'treatment'? Anybody know anything? This should go on the ot list and I hope any replies go there. It's just that so few read the ot list. That's why I posted this here. Or tried to anyway. Mike might catch me. ahahahpj _ - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS use on pets sucess
Hi Tel, How did she use the CS to treat the cataracts? Sally Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE---4.0;This is a report from a pet owner I gave some of my home made CS to to try on her pony with cateracts (Blind) as a bat she told me. in her note to me she took it on her on to try CS on some growths on her dogs. This is a good report. I had very good sucess with a horse of heres that was run through a fence by a MT. Lion. The horse was hurt bad with a hunk of meat torn out of her chest the size of a pound of butter, it completle healed by soaking clean rags with CS and Duct Tape applecation. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ ~ Hi Tel. Still not early enough to tell if the silver is going to work on the ponies cataracts, I sure hope it does, however, two of my dogs have had some kind of growth on them, one above the eye, about the size of a medium size tick. Sprayed the silver on it and it is gone. And on the older dog my husband noticed a growth on the lip a little over a week ago. It was the size of a pea, so I started spraying it a couple times a day, and I noticed today that it is just about all gone. Hurrah for the silver. Now I pray that the pony gets it's sight back. The vet said he has two or three cataracts in one eye and one in the other and the one with the one has something attached to it. He is getting to where he takes off now when he knows I am coming into the stall to spray him. I wish I could say it was because he could see that I had the halter in my hand but I don't think so. I think he has very good hearing. Corinne - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
