Re: CSKelp question

2008-04-20 Thread Ode Coyote



Get a hair anylysis. That should tell you your retained load.


BTW  3 PPM is meaningless whithout factoring in how much in volume, 
going into what volume.


 A teaspoon at 3 PPM is whole lot different than a bucket full.

Arsenic is an element, a metal ..similar to Phosphorous.

Ode



So- how does one determine the likelihood of arsenic poisoning in such a
scenario?

Daddybob




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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread Ode Coyote



  You missed the point.
 While Autism *may* be related to Mercury ingestion, the amount in a 
vaccine [20 micrograms] is minuscule compared to that being dumped into the 
environment.

It's bad enough that some lakes have been declared off limits to fishing.

 *Therefore* , vaccines with Thimerisol, while a possible contributor to 
the problem, isn't the CAUSE of the problem.
Related includes great great Uncles you've never met...to what degree, 
counts.


A vaccine uses live and disabled or dead viri and bacterium to trick the 
body into producing antibodies, thus gaining a *natural* immunity.
If that were the cause of Autism, the disease it prevents would also 
cause Autism because the vaccine *is* the disease made nearly harmless, or 
a close enough analog [like cow pox to immunize against small pox] to 
trigger the immune system.

 Now that's a logical guess
Studying up on the statistics of Autism in children who have NEVER been 
vaccinated might shed some better light on that, however,  areas where 
vaccination is not common are also far away from the Mercury emissions of 
an industrialized coal  burning society [ and Diesel fuel, the #2 source] 
...a bit of a catch 22 there.


Thimerisol was removed from new vaccines because  viable alternatives were 
developed and public opinion demanded it for the sake of continued sales, 
but old stocks still contain it because vaccines are expensive and 
difficult to make, trash canning them would reduce the supply to dangerous 
levels and that amount of Mercury is fairly harmless to an adult.
 But that still doesn't address the main sources of Mercury uptake that 
are overwhelmingly higher than that in a vaccine and FAR less avoidable.


That is the part that no one wants to examine too closely as a major 
change in lifestyle, for EVERYONE, is the only way to address that problem.
It means, either stop burning coal to make electricity, or, install vapor 
condensers on the stacks, or pre-vaporize Mercury out of the coal and 
condense the vapors there.

  Either and any way that goes, a major economical disaster.
No AC and a lot of washing dishes by hand in the dark and getting mules to 
turn the wheels of industry again.


 Take your pick, more Nuke plants, or far less/ more expensive electricity.
Take your pick, store tons and tons of Mercury or nuke waste, someplace.
BUT, there are alternatives being built with wind and wave sources of 
electricity.
 That will take some time,  the incentives to do so are fairly recent and 
there are most likely some practical limits.
 An entire infrastructure can't be changed in a day and any changes always 
have repercussions in unexpected places.


Ultimately, to be able to maintain present life styles in a sustainable 
manner, population will have to be reduced to sustainable levels.
[To prevent Autism in children, make far fewer children so that far less 
electricity is used without depriving those who use it. ]
 No one need die to do that, but it's always their kids that are the 
problem child.
So long as that's the prevalent reasoning, people WILL be condemned to die 
by strangulation in waste products, mass starvation/disease and/or by 
entitlement wars and blame game lynch mobs.
It's just not about who is right, it's about who is left and how they get 
that way.


It all comes down to,  Blame whomever you like, but NO way to not choose
 ..and blame doesn't fix a damned thing, it only delays inevitable 
solutions into emergency thoughtless knee jerk reaction.
 Consciously or not, the choices will be made...*by* you, as an actor, or 
*for* you as a victim of an un-avoided avoidable circumstancetake your 
pick.

 There is no way to not choose.
There are only ways to deny you did. [And blaming Autism on vaccines is 
exactly that denial in the face of an urgent call to do the extremely 
difficult which *requires* co-operation vs just hanging some imagined 
culprit to no avail. ]


There is no escape.

 Shooting easy targets won't get the job done when the root of such 
problems is looking back at you in the mirror, appearing to be some one 
else as seen through foggy eyeballs.
The general situation was predicted as far back as the 1850s but no one 
wanted to look at it. Civilizations have reached fatal stagnation many 
times before, the proof is in the ground...with evidence of cannibalism.
It has become such a hard thing BECAUSE it's been avoided for so long, by 
blame.
It allows YOU to do nothing and the buck gets whipped around and around the 
corral till it's antlers stab you in the buttocks, ownership STILL denied, 
dodging made impossible.
The direction a society takes is a direct reflection of the average 
mentality in that society.


Growth without limits IS, by definition,  cancer.
 A pyramid can't get but just so tall before the foundations crumble under 
the load.
Could that be what the All seeing eye hovering unattached over that 
pyramid symbolizes?


BTW. Children are not exposed to nearly as much of a 

Re: CSCat Scan (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-04-20 Thread Tony Moody
On 18 Apr 2008 at 16:26, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA  wrote about :
Subject : CSCat Scan (UNCLASSIFIED)

 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
 Caveats: NONE
  
 
 Are there any doctors that will put you under for a cat scan.
 My Wife needs one but cannot handle even the open one (Due to Trauma in
 younger years).
 She tried the open one but could not do it.
 
  Bob
   
  
 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
 Caveats: NONE
 

Hi Robert,

Some time ago I talked to a pharmaceutical rep here about just that sort of 
situation and she 
mentioned Aterax from UCB is used as a premed anti anxiety thing. You may be 
able to get 
your Dr to prescribe that or something like that.

All best,
Tony


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Re: CSAgain calcium/mag ratio/ Pat?

2008-04-20 Thread Dee
Most people seem to recommend half calcium to magnesium as I have read it. 
Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Pat Lane
Date: 20/04/2008 05:02:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAgain calcium/mag ratio/ Pat?
 
Gail ,
1000 each calcium and magnesium is not how I read it.Here's what I saw:
Natures Bounty Coral Calcium-1000 Mg/Puritan Pride-Chelated Calcium
Magnesium Zinc-1000Mg. 


Since the Puritan's Pride lists Calcium first it is probably equal to or
more than the Magnesium. Most supplements have cal/mag at 2/1 so this looked
like a total of 2000 mg calcium to 500 mg magnesium. 

Anyway this looks like 4 to 1 and the old rule was 2 to 1.  Now you see more
recommendations for 1 to 1 or 1 to 2.  I think that the exact amount  and
ratio depends on many variables such as how much dairy you consume, your
vitamin d levels, what foods you regularly take in like green veggies,
whether you take HCL with your foods,  etc.

All that being said, 2000 mg calcium is way too much calcium to be taking, 
especially for someone with hypothyroid/fibromyalgia symptoms.

Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread Ode Coyote


 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
Look it up yourself.

ode


At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
from vaccines since 2001?


 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of exposure to
 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 
2001,


 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 70s.Autism

 rates unaffected.






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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread Hanneke
According to Mary Tocco, all flu vaccines  still have 25 mcg mercury 
in them. Watch the video  Are Vaccines safe


At 05:46 PM 20/04/2008, you wrote:



 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
Look it up yourself.

ode


At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been 
removed from vaccines since 2001?


 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
exposure to

 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child 
vaccines in 2001,


 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 70s.Autism

 rates unaffected.






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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread Hanneke
Oh, I forgot to mention that, when thimerosal is added but not as an 
active component, it does not have to be listed.


At 05:46 PM 20/04/2008, you wrote:



 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
Look it up yourself.

ode


At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been 
removed from vaccines since 2001?


 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
exposure to

 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child 
vaccines in 2001,


 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 70s.Autism

 rates unaffected.






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Re: CSAgain calcium/mag ratio/ Pat?

2008-04-20 Thread faith gagne
I have forever heard it the other way around:  take twice the calcium as 
magnesium.  This is the first time I have ever heard it differently.  Faith G

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:00 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAgain calcium/mag ratio/ Pat?


Most people seem to recommend half calcium to magnesium as I have read 
it.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Pat Lane
Date: 20/04/2008 05:02:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAgain calcium/mag ratio/ Pat?

Gail ,
1000 each calcium and magnesium is not how I read it.Here's what I saw:
Natures Bounty Coral Calcium-1000 Mg/Puritan Pride-Chelated Calcium 
Magnesium Zinc-1000Mg. 


Since the Puritan's Pride lists Calcium first it is probably equal to 
or more than the Magnesium. Most supplements have cal/mag at 2/1 so this looked 
like a total of 2000 mg calcium to 500 mg magnesium. 

Anyway this looks like 4 to 1 and the old rule was 2 to 1.  Now you see 
more recommendations for 1 to 1 or 1 to 2.  I think that the exact amount  and 
ratio depends on many variables such as how much dairy you consume, your 
vitamin d levels, what foods you regularly take in like green veggies, whether 
you take HCL with your foods,  etc.

All that being said, 2000 mg calcium is way too much calcium to be 
taking, especially for someone with hypothyroid/fibromyalgia symptoms.

   
  
   


Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread faith gagne
Hi Ode.  Why don't you take the offer?  The stuff is harmless, right?  Faith 
G.



- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer




 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
Look it up yourself.

ode


At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
from vaccines since 2001?


 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe 
 its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
 exposure to

 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.

 Sincerely Barb M.
PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 2001, 
Autism rates unaffected.   Sweden and Denmark

rates unaffected..



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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread faith gagne
For anyone thinking the vaccines are safe the offer still holds, as far as I 
know.  Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer


According to Mary Tocco, all flu vaccines  still have 25 mcg mercury in 
them. Watch the video  Are Vaccines safe


At 05:46 PM 20/04/2008, you wrote:



 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
Look it up yourself.

ode


At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
from vaccines since 2001?


 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe 
 its

 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of
exposure to
 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child
vaccines in 2001,

 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 
 70s.Autism


 rates unaffected.






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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread kmilkowski
He's not a doctor, just plays one on the internet. You have to be an AMA 
certified quack connected to the centers for disease creation I believe.

Kurt
 faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: 
 Hi Ode.  Why don't you take the offer?  The stuff is harmless, right?  Faith 
 G.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:16 AM
 Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer
 
 
 
   Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
  Look it up yourself.
 
  ode
 
 
  At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
 
 Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
 from vaccines since 2001?
 
  B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
   Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe 
   its
   something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
   exposure to
   viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.
  
   Sincerely Barb M.
 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 2001, 
 Autism rates unaffected.   Sweden and Denmark
  rates unaffected..
 
 
 
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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread kmilkowski
I have looked it up, as recently as last summer bush vetoed a bill to have it 
removed from all vaccines. It has been removed from some, not all of them. Now 
they got cute and added aspartame to take its place. Do you have an explanation 
for why they would add a sweetener to thier death cocktails??

Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
 
   Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
 Look it up yourself.
 
 ode
 
 
 At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
 
 Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
 from vaccines since 2001?
 
  B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
   Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
   something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of exposure 
   to
   viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.
  
  
  
   Sincerely Barb M.
  
  
  
   PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 
  2001,
  
   Autism rates unaffected.
  
 Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 70s.Autism
  
   rates unaffected.
  
  
  
  
 
 
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CSShocking Facts About the Pharmaceutical Industry

2008-04-20 Thread kmilkowski
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/04/19/shocking-facts-about-the-pharmaceutical-industry.aspx


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Re: CSthe silver list and what it has devolved to

2008-04-20 Thread Clayton Family

It has only been 2 days, but many have seemed to have forgotten.

I *highly* agree with this point of view.

Please post all the off topic discussions to the off topic list.

kathryn

On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:40 PM, David Bearrow wrote:

I've been reading the silver list for quite a few years. I rarely post 
to it but enjoy the many alternative remedies people post to it. I 
have been archiving it all for a few years and use it as a kind of 
alternative health library. The list has taught me many things, among 
the things I have enjoyed the most is the oxygen nebulizer made from 
an airbrush, CMO for arthritis, and the wonderful scientific data that 
has been collected concerning colloidal silver. From multiple designs 
of cs generators to detailed studies of excretion rates for ingested 
silver. This list has be wonderful!


Lately it seems to have gone off into left field with what to me are 
crackpot paranoid delusional conspiracy theory type posts that have no 
real science to back them up. Such as contrails, food irradiation, 
thimerasol causing autism, etc. What this does is lumps colloidal 
silver which is a science with hard data to back it up in with non 
provable theories that are all hearsay and finger pointing and made up 
statistics with no genuine hard data. This makes it harder for people 
who are new to colloidal silver if they visit this list they won't get 
calm rational facts about silver instead they have to wade through the 
crackpot stuff and might decide that colloidal silver must be for 
crackpots also.


And so I beg the list members to use common sense when posting and 
avoid the conspiracy theory stuff, it has nothing to do with colloidal 
silver.


Dave



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CSVitamin D

2008-04-20 Thread Pat
When I was a kid, we used to use iodine for scrapes and cuts, but then we 
switched to Mercurochrome.  I thought my mother said it was safer.  

This info found at 
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd4
makes real sense:
the mercury in Thiomerosol vaccines may have injured vitamin Ddeficient 
children while normal children would have easily bound themercury and excreted 
it. These studies offer further hope thatsun‑exposure or vitamin D supplements 
may help autistic children byincreasing glutathione and removing heavy metals.

When I was a kid, none of us were vitamin D deficient.  We played outside all 
day, even if it was 98 degrees, and there were no effective sunscreens. 

Everyone should read the entire vitamin D council site which pj pointed out to 
us.  Our lack of vitamin D might be wreaking all sorts of havoc in the body.


Pat




  

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CSAlmonds

2008-04-20 Thread Pat
Can we buy truly raw almonds in a can or have those always been subjected to 
heat?  The almonds in the shell are completely raw, aren't they?  Can they be 
pasteurized in the shell?  


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Re: CSAlmonds

2008-04-20 Thread Hanneke
I believe the Californian almonds are irradiated.. sinds September 
2007.  They don't want to take the illusion away that they are still 
raw and ok and are still allowed to call them organic.

Highly unlikely that almonds  in a can are true raw.

Hanneke

At 02:08 AM 21/04/2008, you wrote:

Can we buy truly raw almonds in a can or have those always been 
subjected to heat?  The almonds in the shell are completely raw, 
aren't they?  Can they be pasteurized in the shell?



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Re: CSAlmonds

2008-04-20 Thread Gene Wolfe

Here is a site that you can buy Not-Pasteurized almonds:
http://www.almonds-from-california.com/cgi-bin/ppcart/ppcart.pl?catcaliforniaalmonds

Here is the URL as a TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/3gsbx6

The new crop is available in September, and we bought some then. They 
are wonderful almonds. There is a lot of information on their website.


Gene

At 11:38 AM 4/20/2008, you wrote:
Can we buy truly raw almonds in a can or have those always been 
subjected to heat?  The almonds in the shell are completely raw, 
aren't they?  Can they be pasteurized in the shell?



Pat


Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS

2008-04-20 Thread Rowena
If you use salt in the CS for your eyes you can bring it to a saline level 
similar to tears to avoid the dryness/stinging.  The distilled water you make 
the CS with is the cause of the 'stinging'.
Rowena

  Thank you.  I use an eye dropper to drop CS into my eyes.  I am not sure that 
it helps all the time with dryness.  If I do not use cs for awhile it sort of 
stings a bit when I begin using it again.  Faith G.


Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS

2008-04-20 Thread faith gagne
How much salt?  Doesn't that make chloride and won't my eyes turn blue?  Faith 
g.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:07 PM
  Subject: Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS


  If you use salt in the CS for your eyes you can bring it to a saline level 
similar to tears to avoid the dryness/stinging.  The distilled water you make 
the CS with is the cause of the 'stinging'.
  Rowena

Thank you.  I use an eye dropper to drop CS into my eyes.  I am not sure 
that it helps all the time with dryness.  If I do not use cs for awhile it sort 
of stings a bit when I begin using it again.  Faith G.


Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread Marlene Hanson
I have heard that aspartame acts as an ant attractant and killer. Maybe it also 
acts as a preservative for vaccines. Any thing the government agencys does I 
find irrational and suspicious. MW
  - Original Mressasge - 
  From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.commailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Ode Coyotemailto:odecoy...@alltel.net 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer


  I have looked it up, as recently as last summer bush vetoed a bill to have it 
removed from all vaccines. It has been removed from some, not all of them. Now 
they got cute and added aspartame to take its place. Do you have an explanation 
for why they would add a sweetener to thier death cocktails??

  Kurt
   Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.netmailto:odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
   
 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
   Look it up yourself.
   
   ode
   
   
   At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
   
   Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
   from vaccines since 2001?
   
    B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.commailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
exposure to
 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 
2001,

 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 
70s.Autism

 rates unaffected.




   
   
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Re: CSAlmonds

2008-04-20 Thread Nenah Sylver


- Original Message - 
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com

To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: CSAlmonds


Can we buy truly raw almonds in a can or have those always been subjected 
to heat?  The almonds in the shell are completely raw, aren't they?  Can 
they be pasteurized in the shell?


There's one California company that sells SHARES in their farm, so people 
can buy truly almonds. You can also order them from Spain. You'll have to 
Google it.


Nenah 



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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread kmilkowski
Trust your government and your doctor and you'll be dead in a hurry.

Kurt
 Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: 
 I have heard that aspartame acts as an ant attractant and killer. Maybe it 
 also acts as a preservative for vaccines. Any thing the government agencys 
 does I find irrational and suspicious. MW
   - Original Mressasge - 
   From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.commailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Cc: Ode Coyotemailto:odecoy...@alltel.net 
   Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:18 AM
   Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer
 
 
   I have looked it up, as recently as last summer bush vetoed a bill to have 
 it removed from all vaccines. It has been removed from some, not all of them. 
 Now they got cute and added aspartame to take its place. Do you have an 
 explanation for why they would add a sweetener to thier death cocktails??
 
   Kurt
    Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.netmailto:odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 

  Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
Look it up yourself.

ode


At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
from vaccines since 2001?

 B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.commailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe 
 its
  something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
 exposure to
  viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.
 
 
 
  Sincerely Barb M.
 
 
 
  PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines 
 in 
 2001,
 
  Autism rates unaffected.
 
Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 
 70s.Autism
 
  rates unaffected.
 
 
 
 


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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread Dave

 I don't believe that for a second!
They will  first bleed you dry of any and all the money you have or can 
borrow.

Dave

kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

Trust your government and your doctor and you'll be dead in a hurry.

Kurt
 Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: 
  

I have heard that aspartame acts as an ant attractant and killer. Maybe it also 
acts as a preservative for vaccines. Any thing the government agencys does I 
find irrational and suspicious. MW
  - Original Mressasge - 
  From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.commailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Ode Coyotemailto:odecoy...@alltel.net 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:18 AM

  Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer


  I have looked it up, as recently as last summer bush vetoed a bill to have it removed 
from all vaccines. It has been removed from some, not all of them. Now they got cute and 
added aspartame to take its place. Do you have an explanation for why they would add a 
sweetener to thier death cocktails??

  Kurt
   Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.netmailto:odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
   
 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.

   Look it up yourself.
   
   ode
   
   
   At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
   
   Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
   from vaccines since 2001?

   
    B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.commailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
exposure to
 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 
2001,


 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 
70s.Autism

 rates unaffected.




   
   
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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread kmilkowski
I stand corrected! Thanks,

Kurt
 Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote: 
   I don't believe that for a second!
 They will  first bleed you dry of any and all the money you have or can 
 borrow.
 Dave
 
 kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
  Trust your government and your doctor and you'll be dead in a hurry.
 
  Kurt
   Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: 

  I have heard that aspartame acts as an ant attractant and killer. Maybe it 
  also acts as a preservative for vaccines. Any thing the government agencys 
  does I find irrational and suspicious. MW
- Original Mressasge - 
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.commailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Cc: Ode Coyotemailto:odecoy...@alltel.net 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer
 
 
I have looked it up, as recently as last summer bush vetoed a bill to 
  have it removed from all vaccines. It has been removed from some, not all 
  of them. Now they got cute and added aspartame to take its place. Do you 
  have an explanation for why they would add a sweetener to thier death 
  cocktails??
 
Kurt
 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.netmailto:odecoy...@alltel.net 
  wrote: 
 
   Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
 Look it up yourself.
 
 ode
 
 
 At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
 
 Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been 
  removed 
 from vaccines since 2001?
 
  B Magnatta 
  mom.magna...@gmail.commailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com wrote:
   Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, 
  maybe its
   something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
  exposure to
   viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.
  
  
  
   Sincerely Barb M.
  
  
  
   PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child 
  vaccines in 
  2001,
  
   Autism rates unaffected.
  
 Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 
  70s.Autism
  
   rates unaffected.
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS

2008-04-20 Thread Rowena
You could try that.  Should be fun.  Brown at the moment, are they?
R
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:15 AM
  Subject: Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS


  How much salt?  Doesn't that make chloride and won't my eyes turn blue?  
Faith g.


- Original Message - 
From: Rowena 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS


If you use salt in the CS for your eyes you can bring it to a saline level 
similar to tears to avoid the dryness/stinging.  The distilled water you make 
the CS with is the cause of the 'stinging'.
Rowena

  Thank you.  I use an eye dropper to drop CS into my eyes.  I am not sure 
that it helps all the time with dryness.  If I do not use cs for awhile it sort 
of stings a bit when I begin using it again.  Faith G.


Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread cking001
The challenge is for medical doctors only.
The lack of takers speaks volumes...
Chuck

Incoming fire has the right of way

On 4/20/2008 8:24:49 AM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote:
 Hi Ode.  Why
 don't you take the offer?  The stuff is harmless, right?  Faith
 G.


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Re: CSCan-C

2008-04-20 Thread Brickeyk
 
In a message dated 4/19/2008 7:36:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
pj20fl...@gmail.com writes:

We got ours in 2 or 3 days---was really quick

Me too. My floater hasn't bothered me after using Can-C one week. I still 
keep using it as I bought 8 bottles. I am on my last bottle now. My eye DR said 
that I would just have to live with the floater, nothing she could do without 
being too invasive. After using the last bottle of Can-C I will start the 
eyebright vitamins.
Brickey



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Re: CSthe silver list and what it has devolved to--David

2008-04-20 Thread Dianne France
I haven't been on the list as long as David and missed the tip about the air 
brush.  Would love to have more information about that if someone has it.

Dianne

  On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:40 PM, David Bearrow wrote:

   I've been reading the silver list for quite a few years. I rarely post 
   to it but enjoy the many alternative remedies people post to it. I 
   have been archiving it all for a few years and use it as a kind of 
   alternative health library. The list has taught me many things, among 
   the things I have enjoyed the most is the oxygen nebulizer made from 
   an airbrush, CMO for arthritis, and the wonderful scientific data that 
   has been collected concerning colloidal silver. From multiple designs 
   of cs generators to detailed studies of excretion rates for ingested 
   silver. This list has be wonderful!
  
   Lately it seems to have gone off into left field with what to me are 
   crackpot paranoid delusional conspiracy theory type posts that have no 
   real science to back them up. Such as contrails, food irradiation, 
   thimerasol causing autism, etc. What this does is lumps colloidal 
   silver which is a science with hard data to back it up in with non 
   provable theories that are all hearsay and finger pointing and made up 
   statistics with no genuine hard data. This makes it harder for people 
   who are new to colloidal silver if they visit this list they won't get 
   calm rational facts about silver instead they have to wade through the 
   crackpot stuff and might decide that colloidal silver must be for 
   crackpots also.
  
   And so I beg the list members to use common sense when posting and 
   avoid the conspiracy theory stuff, it has nothing to do with colloidal 
   silver.
  
   Dave


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Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS

2008-04-20 Thread faith gagne
Hazel.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS


  You could try that.  Should be fun.  Brown at the moment, are they?
  R
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS


How much salt?  Doesn't that make chloride and won't my eyes turn blue?  
Faith g.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:07 PM
  Subject: Re: CScataracts - salt in the CS


  If you use salt in the CS for your eyes you can bring it to a saline 
level similar to tears to avoid the dryness/stinging.  The distilled water you 
make the CS with is the cause of the 'stinging'.
  Rowena

Thank you.  I use an eye dropper to drop CS into my eyes.  I am not 
sure that it helps all the time with dryness.  If I do not use cs for awhile it 
sort of stings a bit when I begin using it again.  Faith G.


Re: CSCan-C

2008-04-20 Thread faith gagne
Can you tell me what eyebright vitamins contain?  Do they contain anything that 
willduplicate what you are taking now?  Thanks.  Faith G.

  - Origina
  l Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:41 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCan-C


  In a message dated 4/19/2008 7:36:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
pj20fl...@gmail.com writes:
We got ours in 2 or 3 days---was really quick
  Me too. My floater hasn't bothered me after using Can-C one week. I still 
keep using it as I bought 8 bottles. I am on my last bottle now. My eye DR said 
that I would just have to live with the floater, nothing she could do without 
being too invasive. After using the last bottle of Can-C I will start the 
eyebright vitamins.
  Brickey





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Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

2008-04-20 Thread kmilkowski
Don't they also have to work for the CDC?? I thought that was also part of the 
deal, which would really tell you something!

Kurt
 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: 
 The challenge is for medical doctors only.
 The lack of takers speaks volumes...
   Chuck
 
 Incoming fire has the right of way
 
 On 4/20/2008 8:24:49 AM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote:
  Hi Ode.  Why
  don't you take the offer?  The stuff is harmless, right?  Faith
  G.
 
 
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