Re: CS>Death by CS.
At 09:07 PM 9/30/2008, you wrote: You've provided priceless information. This is an item to reference. If the list gets working archives, this should be one of the five-starred items.] How much trouble is it to keep a copy of the message? I will format it and add it to the small collection of files. Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Shingles Help
Also think in terms of specific homeopathic remedy herpes zoster. http://abchomeopathy.com/c.php/140 Cleared my shingles near eye in double quick time - a week or so. I had already started Rhus Tox before seeing the homeopath, but on computer assisted dermal screening Herpes Zoster remedy was indicated as being the one required. I checked the Brooks Bradley material downloaded from Wayne's site, but "shingles" didn't come up on a search. Rowena http://www.natural-treatment-guide.com/shingles/shingles-remedy.html Apple cider vinegar ... helps remove the itching and burning rapidly and heal the shingles more quickly. Dimethyl sulfoxide ... helps stop the growth of the virus by penetrating right to the center of the infection. ... helps you to get rid of the stinging and rash in three days, if applied to the affected areas twice daily. Vitamin B-12, ... provides pain relief and helps rapid drying of the rash. ... 500 mcg of vitamin B-12 is injected daily for three days. ...Vitamin C injecting two to three grams every 12 hours and a gram orally every two hours. ... helps relieve pain quickly and dries the blisters within a few days. Vitamin E ... neuralgia, the advanced stage of shingles. Zinc ... salve made by mixing a tablespoon of aloe vera juice and the contents of one 1,000 I.U. capsule of natural vitamin E with zinc ointment on the blisters provides quick relief from pain. Rhus toxicodendron is a homeopathic shingles remedy used to cure the blisters that are not only painful but very itchy. Arsenicum album is another homeopathic shingles remedy that helps cure red, burning lesions. Mezereum is another homeopathic shingles remedy used to cure shingles in cases of severe pain, skin burns and itches, and the formation of brown scabs. Ranunculus is a homeopathic shingles remedy used to cure shingles in cases of severe nerve pains and itching. http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/21/187.cfm My SIL called and my BIN and niece (28yrs old) both just came down with Shingles. I was thinking Brooks had sent an email once about how to cure this. Wayne or anyone else happened to have saved that post? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Death by CS.
You've provided priceless information. This is an item to reference. If the list gets working archives, this should be one of the five-starred items. On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2008, at 18:50 Asia/Tokyo, David wrote: Some of you may have seen in Wikipedia (Colloidal silver), or other places, the reference to the death of a 71 year old man after ingesting CS. Specifically the title of the reference is... "Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver". I've purchased the article ($20). For your information, heres my summary of the case... 1... Man aged about 70 finds out he has prostate cancer. 2... Takes Bicaltamide (a prescribed drug with a few side effects) for 3 months. . . . -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Armour
It will be tomorrow before she is back home to get information. She said there was a web address on the bottle. Dianne > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:13:32 -0600> From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com> To: > silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: CS>Armour> > Dianne,> Thanks! And yes > please, I am very interested!~> I hope your daughter does well with it. > Thyroid can be so complicated, > and not any simpler when it has been removed > or killed with RAI.> sol> > Dianne France wrote:> > Sol> > > > My daughter > just bought some freeze dried T3 bovine thyroid > > (200mg--New Zealand I > think) at the health food store. I did not look > > at the brand but could > find out if you are interested. > > > > Her doctor has condoned her > experimenting with it since the pharmacy > > told her that Armour is going > out of production and she can't tolerate > > synthetic thyroid.> > Said she > would be his trial for this as he has several patients that > > cannot take > the synthetic. She normally only takes 60mg so I don't > > know what she is > doing dose wise yet. They irradiated (oral) her > > thyroid glands a number > of years back and she still has multiple cysts > > on them that they have to > watch.
Re: CS>Shingles Help
use copious amount of CS both topically and internally and also 1500mgs per day of l-lysine. dee Teri Kavakos wrote: My SIL called and my BIN and niece (28yrs old) both just came down with Shingles. I was thinking Brooks had sent an email once about how to cure this. Wayne or anyone else happened to have saved that post? TIA, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>does this site make any sense?
Maybe a translation error? I forget where the person lives who sent me the link, but somewhere in Europe I think. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: Not knowing the real definition of sintered, I looked it up. You are correct, it does appear to be the wrong word used for the action. Stripped would probably be a better choice of words. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Armour
Dianne, Thanks! And yes please, I am very interested!~ I hope your daughter does well with it. Thyroid can be so complicated, and not any simpler when it has been removed or killed with RAI. sol Dianne France wrote: Sol My daughter just bought some freeze dried T3 bovine thyroid (200mg--New Zealand I think) at the health food store. I did not look at the brand but could find out if you are interested. Her doctor has condoned her experimenting with it since the pharmacy told her that Armour is going out of production and she can't tolerate synthetic thyroid. Said she would be his trial for this as he has several patients that cannot take the synthetic. She normally only takes 60mg so I don't know what she is doing dose wise yet. They irradiated (oral) her thyroid glands a number of years back and she still has multiple cysts on them that they have to watch. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Shingles Help
My SIL called and my BIN and niece (28yrs old) both just came down with Shingles. I was thinking Brooks had sent an email once about how to cure this. Wayne or anyone else happened to have saved that post? TIA, Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>does this site make any sense?
Another word that could possibly apply would be "sputtered." It's the process where electrons impinging on the surface drive off atoms of the metal. I know it works in vacuum, I'm not so sure it applies in an electrolytic process. Sintered is definitely wrong. Mike D. > Not knowing the real definition of sintered, I looked it up. You are > correct, it does appear to be the wrong word used for the action. > Stripped would probably be a better choice of words. > > Marshall > > Dan Nave wrote: > > This site states: > > > > " The silver is not "dissolved" but "suspended" evenly throughout the > > solution as a result of the positive electrical charge that is > > attached to each particle of silver as it is electrically sintered off > > of the silver electrode into the water." > > > > I am always leery of people who use the term "sintered." If you look > > up the definition, it is the exact opposite of what happens when we > > make CS. For this reason, I think they are just repeating something > > they have read and have no real knowledge of what they are talking > > about. > > > > The product may be fine though... Didn't see a price. > > > > Dan > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:29 AM > >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> Subject: CS>does this site make any sense? > >> > >> Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is > >> there any accuracy in it? > >> http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 > >> sol > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >> > >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >> > >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> > >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >> > >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >> > >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CS>does this site make any sense?
Not knowing the real definition of sintered, I looked it up. You are correct, it does appear to be the wrong word used for the action. Stripped would probably be a better choice of words. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: This site states: " The silver is not "dissolved" but "suspended" evenly throughout the solution as a result of the positive electrical charge that is attached to each particle of silver as it is electrically sintered off of the silver electrode into the water." I am always leery of people who use the term "sintered." If you look up the definition, it is the exact opposite of what happens when we make CS. For this reason, I think they are just repeating something they have read and have no real knowledge of what they are talking about. The product may be fine though... Didn't see a price. Dan -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>does this site make any sense? Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is there any accuracy in it? http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>does this site make any sense?
sol wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean product description, I mean how they describe CS using "atom aggregates" and so on. Yes, that seems to agree with my understanding of the process for EIS. Marshall Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is there any accuracy in it? http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>does this site make any sense?
sol wrote: Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is there any accuracy in it? http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 Some is accurate. Much of it I have heard, but cannot verify (things like the structure of water or magnetic field). On some pages, like :Diseases that are prevented" are probably accurate, but would be banned if the company were under FDA jurisdiction. Marshall sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Death by CS.
Thanks very much David for taking the time and trouble (not to mention cost) to get this report and posting it for us all. Another one for our arsenal. Cheers, Roger On 30 Sep, 2008, at 10:50 PM, David wrote: Some of you may have seen in Wikipedia (Colloidal silver), or other places, the reference to the death of a 71 year old man after ingesting CS. Specifically the title of the reference is... "Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver". I've purchased the article ($20). For your information, heres my summary of the case... 1... Man aged about 70 finds out he has prostate cancer. 2... Takes Bicaltamide (a prescribed drug with a few side effects) for 3 months. 3... Following this he tried "various nutritional and vitamin supplements, homeopathic remedies such as PC-SPES and essiac tea, and colloidal silver". (Its claimed his CS machine produced 4 litres of 10ppm in 30 minutes). He drinks at least a ONE OUNCE a day for 4 months. (Yep, you heard right, a whole ounce!) 4... Wife and daughter confiscate his CS machine and give it to doctors. (Presumably this ended his CS intake) 5... His prostate antigen level increases so he ceases all unconventional treatment and undergoes 7 weeks (35 cycles) of radiation therapy. 6... Seizures begin 1 month after radio therapy ceases. (This appears to be about 3 MONTHS AFTER CEASING CS INGESTION) 7... He goes into 'Myoclonic status epilepticus' (a constant seizure) so Doctors put him into an INDUCED COMA and pump him with various drugs. 8... Patient deteriorates to a persistant vegetative condition. 9... Patient is shifted to his home town hospital where he dies of PNEUMONIA 5.5 months after seizures begin. At the time of 'his admission' blood tests revealed 'high levels of silver'. (The article does not really clarify at which admission the blood samples were taken. It could have been back when his prostate antigen levels were tested. Following death, an autopsy revealed 'elevated silver in the grey matter'. (I don't think either of these findings are particularly surprising.) OK folks, heres the rub... Is the focus of article about who or what killed him? No, its about what caused the seizures! Quote.."His (the patients) extensive investigations (tests), including cranial MRIs, somatosensory evoked potentials, routine and special CSF studies for viruses or other microorganisms, porphyria, Hashimoto thyroiditis, connective tissue disease, and anti-Hu antibodies, WERE NORMAL. Patient’s liver function was also NORMAL. Therefore, we hypothesized the patient’s condition was caused by silver toxicity. Plasmapheresis resulted in significant improvement in his plasma (1.9 nmol/L), erythrocytes (2.2 nmol/L), and CSF (1.04 nmol/L) silver levels without any associated neurologic recovery. In other words... "We checked everything and all we could find was silver, so we are HYPOTHESIZING the silver (that he stopped taking 3 MONTHS before the siezures) must have done it! Sorry Mum and Daughter, its not our fault. He's dead because of that damned silver!" If I was a cynic I could suggest conventional medicine killed him, and colloidal silver became a convenient scapegoat. Regards David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Armour
Sol My daughter just bought some freeze dried T3 bovine thyroid (200mg--New Zealand I think) at the health food store. I did not look at the brand but could find out if you are interested. Her doctor has condoned her experimenting with it since the pharmacy told her that Armour is going out of production and she can't tolerate synthetic thyroid. Said she would be his trial for this as he has several patients that cannot take the synthetic. She normally only takes 60mg so I don't know what she is doing dose wise yet. They irradiated (oral) her thyroid glands a number of years back and she still has multiple cysts on them that they have to watch. Dianne> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:32:35 -0600> From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: CS>Armour> > Too bad, I had my fingers crossed they would have a T3 only.> sol> > Norton, Steve wrote:> >> > Oops, my error. Sorry, no help.> > - Steve
RE: CS>does this site make any sense?
This site states: " The silver is not "dissolved" but "suspended" evenly throughout the solution as a result of the positive electrical charge that is attached to each particle of silver as it is electrically sintered off of the silver electrode into the water." I am always leery of people who use the term "sintered." If you look up the definition, it is the exact opposite of what happens when we make CS. For this reason, I think they are just repeating something they have read and have no real knowledge of what they are talking about. The product may be fine though... Didn't see a price. Dan > -Original Message- > From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:29 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>does this site make any sense? > > Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is > there any accuracy in it? > http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 > sol > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
RE: CS>Frozen shoulder.
You wrote: > I had it for a long time and told > my son's friend who is a masseuse. > I explained the pain and he dug his fingers into the area > which brought tears ! The pain was probably due to the fact that you called him a masseuse... Dan > -Original Message- > From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:04 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Frozen shoulder. > > > For what it is worth, here is my experience. > >I went to a Chinese Traditional Medicine practitioner. . . . > >. . .He rubbed and manipulated very hard on an area on > >the top left hand area of my chest, I think he said it > > was where the nerve went through a small channel. > > I had a similar pain which started at the base of my neck and > went down into my shoulder. I had it for a long time and told > my son's friend who is a masseuse. > I explained the pain and he dug his fingers into the area > which brought tears ! He explained about the nerve and said I > could massage the area myself, and showed me how. > After a week or so, the pain went away. > > Smitty > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>Death by CS.
good one Wayne! dee Wayne Fugitt wrote: At 12:04 PM 9/30/2008, you wrote: Yes I have kept this too, in case some bright spark comes at me with this nonsense! dee The best thing, about bright sparks, is that, They do not last too long. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Death by CS.
At 12:04 PM 9/30/2008, you wrote: Yes I have kept this too, in case some bright spark comes at me with this nonsense! dee The best thing, about bright sparks, is that, They do not last too long. Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Death by CS.
Yes I have kept this too, in case some bright spark comes at me with this nonsense! dee M. G. Devour wrote: Thank you David. That's good info to have around. Mike D. Some of you may have seen in Wikipedia (Colloidal silver), or other places, the reference to the death of a 71 year old man after ingesting CS. Specifically the title of the reference is... "Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver". I've purchased the article ($20). For your information, heres my summary of the case... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Armour
Too bad, I had my fingers crossed they would have a T3 only. sol Norton, Steve wrote: Oops, my error. Sorry, no help. - Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>does this site make any sense?
Sorry, I didn't mean product description, I mean how they describe CS using "atom aggregates" and so on. Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is there any accuracy in it? http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>does this site make any sense?
Marshall? What do you think of the product description? Is there any accuracy in it? http://srebrnavoda.com/en/node/3 sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Death by CS. cs & x-rays
Reading this article made me wonder if cs in the body could react with x-ray? I had never thought about that before and they always make you remove any jewelry and metals before x-ray. I enjoyed reading the article and am saving it to file. It's unbelievable what the doctors can put you thru. That is why they call it practicing medicine. Dianne> To: silver-list@eskimo.com> From: da...@alchemysa.com.au> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:20:35 +0930> Subject: CS>Death by CS.> > Some of you may have seen in Wikipedia (Colloidal silver), or other > places, the reference to the death of a 71 year old man after > ingesting CS. Specifically the title of the reference is... > "Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of > colloidal silver".
Re: CS>Death by CS.
Thank you David. That's good info to have around. Mike D. > Some of you may have seen in Wikipedia (Colloidal silver), or other > places, the reference to the death of a 71 year old man after ingesting > CS. Specifically the title of the reference is... "Myoclonic status > epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver". > > I've purchased the article ($20). For your information, heres my > summary of the case... > > 1... Man aged about 70 finds out he has prostate cancer. > 2... Takes Bicaltamide (a prescribed drug with a few side effects) for > 3 months. 3... Following this he tried "various nutritional and vitamin > supplements, homeopathic remedies such as PC-SPES and essiac tea, and > colloidal silver". (Its claimed his CS machine produced 4 litres of > 10ppm in 30 minutes). He drinks at least a ONE OUNCE a day for 4 > months. (Yep, you heard right, a whole ounce!) 4... Wife and daughter > confiscate his CS machine and give it to doctors. (Presumably this > ended his CS intake) 5... His prostate antigen level increases so he > ceases all unconventional treatment and undergoes 7 weeks (35 cycles) > of radiation therapy. 6... Seizures begin 1 month after radio therapy > ceases. (This appears to be about 3 MONTHS AFTER CEASING CS INGESTION) > 7... He goes into 'Myoclonic status epilepticus' (a constant seizure) > so Doctors put him into an INDUCED COMA and pump him with various drugs. > 8... Patient deteriorates to a persistant vegetative condition. 9... > Patient is shifted to his home town hospital where he dies of PNEUMONIA > 5.5 months after seizures begin. > > At the time of 'his admission' blood tests revealed 'high levels of > silver'. (The article does not really clarify at which admission the > blood samples were taken. It could have been back when his prostate > antigen levels were tested. Following death, an autopsy revealed > 'elevated silver in the grey matter'. (I don't think either of these > findings are particularly surprising.) > > > OK folks, heres the rub... > > Is the focus of article about who or what killed him? No, its about > what caused the seizures! > > Quote.."His (the patients) extensive investigations (tests), > including cranial MRIs, somatosensory evoked potentials, routine and > special CSF studies for viruses or other microorganisms, porphyria, > Hashimoto thyroiditis, connective tissue disease, and anti-Hu > antibodies, WERE NORMAL. Patients liver function was also NORMAL. > Therefore, we hypothesized the patients condition was caused by silver > toxicity. Plasmapheresis resulted in significant improvement in his > plasma (1.9 nmol/L), erythrocytes (2.2 nmol/L), and CSF (1.04 nmol/L) > silver levels without any associated neurologic recovery. > > In other words... "We checked everything and all we could find was > silver, so we are HYPOTHESIZING the silver (that he stopped taking 3 > MONTHS before the siezures) must have done it! Sorry Mum and Daughter, > its not our fault. He's dead because of that damned silver!" > > If I was a cynic I could suggest conventional medicine killed him, and > colloidal silver became a convenient scapegoat. > > Regards > David > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver > > http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/62/8/1408 > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
CS>Death by CS.
Some of you may have seen in Wikipedia (Colloidal silver), or other places, the reference to the death of a 71 year old man after ingesting CS. Specifically the title of the reference is... "Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver". I've purchased the article ($20). For your information, heres my summary of the case... 1... Man aged about 70 finds out he has prostate cancer. 2... Takes Bicaltamide (a prescribed drug with a few side effects) for 3 months. 3... Following this he tried "various nutritional and vitamin supplements, homeopathic remedies such as PC-SPES and essiac tea, and colloidal silver". (Its claimed his CS machine produced 4 litres of 10ppm in 30 minutes). He drinks at least a ONE OUNCE a day for 4 months. (Yep, you heard right, a whole ounce!) 4... Wife and daughter confiscate his CS machine and give it to doctors. (Presumably this ended his CS intake) 5... His prostate antigen level increases so he ceases all unconventional treatment and undergoes 7 weeks (35 cycles) of radiation therapy. 6... Seizures begin 1 month after radio therapy ceases. (This appears to be about 3 MONTHS AFTER CEASING CS INGESTION) 7... He goes into 'Myoclonic status epilepticus' (a constant seizure) so Doctors put him into an INDUCED COMA and pump him with various drugs. 8... Patient deteriorates to a persistant vegetative condition. 9... Patient is shifted to his home town hospital where he dies of PNEUMONIA 5.5 months after seizures begin. At the time of 'his admission' blood tests revealed 'high levels of silver'. (The article does not really clarify at which admission the blood samples were taken. It could have been back when his prostate antigen levels were tested. Following death, an autopsy revealed 'elevated silver in the grey matter'. (I don't think either of these findings are particularly surprising.) OK folks, heres the rub... Is the focus of article about who or what killed him? No, its about what caused the seizures! Quote.."His (the patients) extensive investigations (tests), including cranial MRIs, somatosensory evoked potentials, routine and special CSF studies for viruses or other microorganisms, porphyria, Hashimoto thyroiditis, connective tissue disease, and anti-Hu antibodies, WERE NORMAL. Patient’s liver function was also NORMAL. Therefore, we hypothesized the patient’s condition was caused by silver toxicity. Plasmapheresis resulted in significant improvement in his plasma (1.9 nmol/L), erythrocytes (2.2 nmol/L), and CSF (1.04 nmol/L) silver levels without any associated neurologic recovery. In other words... "We checked everything and all we could find was silver, so we are HYPOTHESIZING the silver (that he stopped taking 3 MONTHS before the siezures) must have done it! Sorry Mum and Daughter, its not our fault. He's dead because of that damned silver!" If I was a cynic I could suggest conventional medicine killed him, and colloidal silver became a convenient scapegoat. Regards David http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/62/8/1408 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
