Re: CSmachine question
Wouldn't they have been rather expensive if they had been real silver? and *why* would they use real silver at all? The mind boggles! dee On 25 Feb 2010, at 03:51, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I read her site in some detail years ago, and was impressed in particular by one link to an academic article about a Japanese many who got argyria from consuming a popular breath mint sold here -- Jintan is the name, sold in a few variations. Sliver Jintan breath mints look like BB's or ball bearings or very large cake sprinkles. The silver color, according to the article, is actual silver -- what kind exactly I can't say. According to RJ's site at that time, silver cake sprinkles are the same -- real silver. As I'd enjoyed a few packs of Jintan, and was dabbling with EIS as well, I was really glad to learn what she had to say; it may have spared me discoloration. I don't know if Silver Jintan is still on the market. As for RJ, I try to keep an open mind and near divergent opinions, though I gave up on correspondence; RJ doesn't want to hear ideas that differ from her own. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSusing h2o2 and EIS
I had several bottles I put to one side because they were slightly yellow. I put a little H2O2 in one of them, but nothing happened. Then about 2 weeks later I noticed that it had suddenly gone clear. I still have some other yellow bottles, so could try adding a little H2O2 to those to see if the same thing happens. Paul From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: 25 February 2010 07:27 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #258
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
Too much of anything will do that. I didn't say anything about aspartame excitotoxins. The question is, are those any different than the ones the nerves *need* in the proper amounts ? I don't know the answer and aspartame tastes like pure crap to me, so I don't get anywhere near it for that reason alone. From looking into it and consulting actual biochemists who could list the metabolites right off the top of their heads, the whole aspartame thing is an exaggeration of a natural process that the body does anyhow, on it's own, having to do with methanol. Many foods digest into methanol, some 50 times more so than Aspertame and are considered to be healthy foods. One glass of wine produces at least as much methanol as a case of Diet Coke. Is methanol toxic? SURE it is. But the body is DESIGNED to handle it up to a point and that point will never be reached by drinking Coke. If, however, you are already AT that point, some Coke could push you over the edge, but avoiding something else would do a lot better job. ode At 06:34 PM 2/24/2010 +, you wrote: But what I read said that the aspartame excitotoxins cause nerves to die? Is this not right then? dee On 24 Feb 2010, at 15:01, Ode Coyote wrote: At 06:25 PM 2/23/2010 +, you wrote: But aspartame is a known neurotoxin (exitotoxin) sol, Blankets...you can't stay alive without excitotoxins. Look a little deeper. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: using h2o2 and EIS
If you see a murky reaction, you haven't waited long enough for the Ions to stabilize ..I think we're all still working of what *that* process is all about. Ode At 06:25 AM 2/24/2010 -0800, you wrote: Trying to use H2O2 -- half success, half unknown result... I made two batches of a gallon each, both with distilled water, one with some silver I got from some place in Arizona or New Mexico a while back, the other with silver from Atlasnova, both 99.99. The Atlasnova batch came out clear with a slight tinge of yellow around 15 PPM. The other batch came out about the same, but with slightly more yellow, and some kind of cloudiness. I put 24 drops of H2O2 into the Atlasnova batch, and it turned clear, as I had expected from reading this list. I put 6 drops of H2O2 into the other batch, and it lost a little of the yellow, but turned much more cloudy. Now it is sort of a very pale yellow with some kind of opaque cloudiness in it. Can't figure what it could be. Any ideas? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: using h2o2 and EIS
You're right -- I didn't wait very long. Just a day or so. - Original Message From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 3:05:17 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: using h2o2 and EIS If you see a murky reaction, you haven't waited long enough for the Ions to stabilize ..I think we're all still working of what *that* process is all about. Ode At 06:25 AM 2/24/2010 -0800, you wrote: Trying to use H2O2 -- half success, half unknown result... I made two batches of a gallon each, both with distilled water, one with some silver I got from some place in Arizona or New Mexico a while back, the other with silver from Atlasnova, both 99.99. The Atlasnova batch came out clear with a slight tinge of yellow around 15 PPM. The other batch came out about the same, but with slightly more yellow, and some kind of cloudiness. I put 24 drops of H2O2 into the Atlasnova batch, and it turned clear, as I had expected from reading this list. I put 6 drops of H2O2 into the other batch, and it lost a little of the yellow, but turned much more cloudy. Now it is sort of a very pale yellow with some kind of opaque cloudiness in it. Can't figure what it could be. Any ideas? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
Hmm...I'm still out on that one Ode. I have read a lot of things about aspartame from different sources and they all agree that it is a toxic nerve poison. That dorway.com which someone posted for something else, has *huge* articles about it. People that ingest it can get symptoms which mimic things like MS and are misdiagnosed. I know it contains phenylanalin which is a natural substance for the body to use, but it is not necessarily in a *form* or amount that the body can use. Apparently it can also turn into formaldehyde when in certain conditions. I wouldn't touch it with a pole! dee On 25 Feb 2010, at 11:25, Ode Coyote wrote: Too much of anything will do that. I didn't say anything about aspartame excitotoxins. The question is, are those any different than the ones the nerves *need* in the proper amounts ? I don't know the answer and aspartame tastes like pure crap to me, so I don't get anywhere near it for that reason alone. From looking into it and consulting actual biochemists who could list the metabolites right off the top of their heads, the whole aspartame thing is an exaggeration of a natural process that the body does anyhow, on it's own, having to do with methanol. Many foods digest into methanol, some 50 times more so than Aspertame and are considered to be healthy foods. One glass of wine produces at least as much methanol as a case of Diet Coke. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Use of copper---
Hi Renee, I think you're onto something here as far as using fresh milk thistle seed and grinding them yourself. The question I have - is during the summer we have lots of milk thistle plants on our property but I wouldn't have a clue as to how to harvest their seeds. Do you or anybody else for that matter? Thx. Lisa _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Use of copper--- Just one spot could be anything. Usually when one starts getting liver spots they are past 50 and they usually start showing up first on hands, though they can be anywhere. But, unless you are 20 something, (and even then with todays world being what it is) it never, ever hurts to do a liver cleanse. There are many good ones out there, and they can be bought at any health food store. Then after the cleanse it's good to continue to support the liver. Milk thistle is the number one liver support herb as it not only strengthens the liver but helps build new cells. The very best way to take milk thistle is to buy milk thistle seeds, whole, and grind them as you use them. They can be put into a salt or pepper grinder, and just grind them over your salads or potatoes, etc, or you can get a spice grinder and grind up just a few days worth. There's a good liver product that I've recently been hearing about on a pet list. It seems that many dogs that have had high liver values and have already been on either prescription liver meds or on milk thistle, have taken this product and within 2 to 3 weeks their liver values have come down to normal. It is called Country Life Liver Support Factor. The cheapest place I've Found it is http://www.iherb I would do a cleanse and then start on the Liver Support Factor. OR, take the morning drink of the juice of one half to one lemon, a tablespoon of either grade B maple syrup or black strap molasses in a cup of warm water. This helps to mildly clean the liver daily. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- SO if I have just one spot on my face for several years and that means that I need a liver cleanse do I just get one from Sun Harvest? Cathy
CSMilk (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I noticed something when I was on Vacation in Mexico. Their Milk was ultra Pasteurized and was not refrigerated it Was just on a table in isle. I should have looked at a carton, might have been irradiated. I have seen Cream Ultra Pasteurized here but it was still refrigerated. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CSCS : Deodorant
I agree. CS did not work for me as a deodorant. However, as I have posted here several times before, I have had great results using GSE diluted with distilled water (around 2 parts GSE to 8 parts water) in an 8oz spray bottle. Highly recommend it. Del - Original Message - From: Dave Darrin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: Re: CSCS : Deodorant Harold That's Amazing : It didn't do a thing for me in that respect, could be you were using anti perspirant to your detriment rather a deodorant? Dave On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote: What is wrong with CS/IES as a deodorant? Having lived a lot of years with BO,Jock itch,etc.,using various deodorants,even DRs. scripts,special soaps,you name it, I am sure I tried it; results? not a one did anything good.I eventually ended up with severe re-actions to the stick deodorants. Glory be ,guess what???,I found that CS/EIS was the only answer,works wonders ,Whoopee. Since I started using it some years ago,the problem has gone away except for the rare occasion. The bacteria that is the culprit can be contagious, I believe. Use in the bath,laundry,hand rinse with it after washing,unlimited uses. . Harold
RE: CS Use of copper---
I'm assuming like any other seeds gathering--you have to wait till the head of the flower is all dried out, then you shake the seeds into a bag. You'll have to watch to see if with the milk thistle, that like some thistles the seeds are attached to 'wings' and tend to fly off in the wind (like dandelions). As I've never collected thistle seeds (have never seen wild milk thistle here) you'll have to keep an eye on a plant to see what happens Collecting seeds will mean you have some little twigs or chaff, but I can't see any big need to winnow them out, unless you get some big enough to just pick up with your fingers. Store bought seeds will be clean--no chaff. Wild gathered you'll get some chaff. But the chaff will grind up with the seeds and probably has the same chemicals as the seeds. Sometimes what people do with plants they are keeping seeds from is, as the heads get closer to drying out, they cut off the flower heads and hang them upside down to let them dry--if the seeds are the type to stick in the flower heads. If the seeds are the type to drop off, then they cut the heads just before becoming completely dry, and place them into a paper bag. After the heads dry, they shake the bag to release the seeds. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- is during the summer we have lots of milk thistle plants on our property but I wouldnt have a clue as to how to harvest their seeds. Do you or anybody else for that matter?
Re: CSSilver CarbonateConfusion Making CS
Yes, silver carbonate is way up the reactivity chart, just under silver nitrate, which makes it very photo reactive. Silver acetate is much further down, I believe below ionic silver ( hydroxide/oxide) and even chloride, down around silver citrate. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: After reading what Dr Marx of CS Pro says about using Baking Soda as a buffer so that a timer has a *chance* of working...ie..doesn't affect the quality of the CS.. I gave it a go using enough to buffer the water up to around 10 uS..a small batch.. and ran in manual mode for something like 4 hours @ one milliamp. Everything seemed go swimmingly as claimed and I started writing an OK, so I'm full of it piece to the silverlist..but just as I was finishing it up, the batch went murky milky white. Oops So, I set the batch on a North facing windowsill for a day and it went murky milky grey with a lot of grey sediment. Looking around on the Google, I found a potters site that described how to make a silver glaze from silver carbonate by converting it to a highly soluble silver acetate. OK, so I added a goodly dollop [scientific measurements there] of white distiller vinegar to the murky milky grey with bottom crud batch and in a few hours it was crystal clear with no sediment. Silver Carbonate Highly soluble? Well, maybe before light gets to it. ..and I do believe that Dr Marx is wrong. Ode At 10:25 AM 2/23/2010 -0500, you wrote: Sorry, I was having some fun with the words. Actually silver carbonate is highly soluble, and thus will really look like pure water, but will of course be a compound which is more likely to cause argyria. Marshall Deborah Gerard wrote: Hi Marshall...what does bubble trouble carbonate rubble look like? thanks Deb *From:* Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, February 22, 2010 11:09:56 AM *Subject:* Re: CSConfusion Making CS Also note that a bubbler increases the production of silver carbonate, and if you bubble furiously you can get bubble trouble carbonate rubble. Marshall sol wrote: At 01:14 PM 2/20/2010, you wrote: I should have clarified in the last message that I didn't use a bubbler with any of these experiments last night. Thanks Debbie But you ARE using distilled water? Nothing added? When I used an aquarium bubbler with my homemade set up, I found it important to have the bubbles coming out very slowly, one at a time, and also to have it set so the bubbles rose as closely as possible right between the electrodes. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS healing, Cross post from another list
Ode Coyote wrote: Cross post from another list. I ripped a 1 circle of skin off the back of my hand on a door jamb while carrying a box of stuff though it , picked the bloody chunk up out of the dirt and pasted it back on using my grubby fingers with a few sprits of CS as a quick wash off. I kept it soaked with CS and a piece of paper towel for 6 hours...like a shaving cut and toilet paper. In 5 days the replaced skin had turned baby butt pink with a pinker edge. In 7 days, I couldn't tell it had happened. I did that once, but didn't notice I had it upside down until one day noticed that that section of my fingerprint was upside down and really looked funny. Odd thing is, the fingerprint is no ok. Not sure when it corrected itself. I recently had a spider bite my ankle 7 times. [I never saw a spiderso don't know what sort or even really if it was a spider] All I really know is that in a line of decreasing diameter spots starting about 3/4 my skin liquefied and fell off showing muscle underneath. Almost certainly a brown recluse. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS : Deodorant
Did you try GSE diluted with CS? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: I agree. CS did not work for me as a deodorant. However, as I have posted here several times before, I have had great results using GSE diluted with distilled water (around 2 parts GSE to 8 parts water) in an 8oz spray bottle. Highly recommend it. Del -- Alan Jones
Re: CS(LL) Mike said OK to post this but
thanks for posting this I sent a letter and will pass this on to other groups, Deb From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 8:41:02 PM Subject: CS(LL) Mike said OK to post this but ... Follow up discussion should be migrated to the OT list or elsewhere, Lois On February 4, 2010, Senators John McCain and Byron Dorgan introduced S. 3002, the Dietary Supplement Safety Act. This legislation would mandate that every dietary supplement would have to go through a brand new process of government review in order to stay on the market. If this bill becomes law your health care choices will be drastically reduced, and many of the supplements available today will become illegal. This and other provisions of this misguided legislation affect ALL dietary supplements, including vitamins, minerals, herbs, sports, and diet products. The supposed purpose of the bill is to make dietary supplements safer, which is ironic because dietary supplements already have an excellent safety record. It also ignores the fact that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration already have the powers they need to police the market. Copy paste to send _ (http://capwiz.com/saveoursupplements/utr/1/ONIYMBGYET/CBJHMBOPBJ/470750 4051) to send a note in opposition to S. 3002 directly to your two Senators or use the information on the website to write a personal letter. Either way, you need to act immediately. Do not let Congress take away your right to dietary supplements.
Re: CSCS : Deodorant
Whats GSE?? - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: Re: CSCS : Deodorant Did you try GSE diluted with CS? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: I agree. CS did not work for me as a deodorant. However, as I have posted here several times before, I have had great results using GSE diluted with distilled water (around 2 parts GSE to 8 parts water) in an 8oz spray bottle. Highly recommend it. Del -- Alan Jones
Re: CSCS : Deodorant
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote: Whats GSE?? Grapefruit seed extract. Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSColloid Master??
Wow, had no idea that there was one with a yellow light! It would be nice to see it switching polarity, to keep an eye on it while it brews. As far as the other switch for fast or standard brewing, that sounds like a very nice switch to have, although I'm not sure how it could speed things up, except for giving it more power. I did call the seller, but since I live in Germany, there was not much they could do for me. I was fortunate to have it sent to a friend in the military here, but they have left, and sending it through the german postal system would be too costly. If I lived in the States, it probably wouldn't be an issue to send it. I just feel like I got a raw deal, but I know it was not intentional. My loss, although it still frustrates me. I'm just hoping that I'm actually producing some good CS, that's what is important, right? :-) And if I understood correctly, when the green light goes off on yours, then it stops brewing? Even though its getting electricity? Do you think the generator turns itself off? Thanks for your input. Aldi On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:26 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote: Hi Aldi. I think you might have the same unit I do, but mine is pretty old and is only called the Colloid Master AC. On mine, the green light is what goes on when the unit is making CS. When it has reached the ppm-level desired, then the green light goes out. But the yellow *testing* light (underneath the start button) remains lit, which reminds you that the unit is still plugged in. And I believe that light blinks when the unit switches polarity. That yellow light goes out when you unplug the unit before removing the clips from the silver bars. My unit has no red light, but it does have the switch that allows you to choose between standard brewing time and fast. Mine is always set on standard. Does any of this help you? MA -- *From:* Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, February 24, 2010 1:21:03 PM *Subject:* Re: CSColloid Master?? Hi Dave, Thanks for responding! I was beginning to think my mails weren't getting through at all, but nice to see that this one got through. I don't have the 777 model, but the Universal one. There is only a switch to turn the generator on, and the processing button to start the process. Then there is the green light, which goes on as soon as you turn it on. This is the time you can test the water, but you already know that :-) But I don't recall ever seeing the red light go on. Aldi On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote: Aldi On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when it shuts off. On the fast setting it is running manually and will brew until you shut it off hence the colors you got. I've never been able to get anything but clear up to 20 ppm (setting # 7)with mine set on standard. Dave
Re: CSCS : Deodorant
When using CS for deodorant, it helps a LOT to spray it on your shirts as well as on you. It is much more effective that way. Dick From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 5:03:00 PM Subject: Re: CSCS : Deodorant No, I did not try that. Should work though, since you will still have GSE in there. Maybe my 5 to 10 ppm CS is just not strong enough for that job? Anyway, I am happy with my results - never any skin rash, etc. All commercial deodorants give me severe rash - even the so called hypo-allergenic ones. Also, the mineral stone, severe rash. Del - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: CSCS : Deodorant Did you try GSE diluted with CS? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: I agree. CS did not work for me as a deodorant. However, as I have posted here several times before, I have had great results using GSE diluted with distilled water (around 2 parts GSE to 8 parts water) in an 8oz spray bottle. Highly recommend it. Del -- Alan Jones
Re: CSCS : Deodorant
No, I did not try that. Should work though, since you will still have GSE in there. Maybe my 5 to 10 ppm CS is just not strong enough for that job? Anyway, I am happy with my results - never any skin rash, etc. All commercial deodorants give me severe rash - even the so called hypo-allergenic ones. Also, the mineral stone, severe rash. Del - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: CSCS : Deodorant Did you try GSE diluted with CS? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: I agree. CS did not work for me as a deodorant. However, as I have posted here several times before, I have had great results using GSE diluted with distilled water (around 2 parts GSE to 8 parts water) in an 8oz spray bottle. Highly recommend it. Del -- Alan Jones
Re: CSColloid Master??
Yes -- absolutely. That's what it's designed to do. You set the dial for the ppm-level that you want, then plug it in. When the ppm-level is reached, the generator turns itself off (even though it is still plugged in to electricity). Does yours not do that? What number do you have the dial set for? MA From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com And if I understood correctly, when the green light goes off on yours, then it stops brewing? Even though its getting electricity? Do you think the generator turns itself off? On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:26 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Aldi. I think you might have the same unit I do, but mine is pretty old and is only called the Colloid Master AC. On mine, the green light is what goes on when the unit is making CS. When it has reached the ppm-level desired, then the green light goes out. But the yellow *testing* light (underneath the start button) remains lit, which reminds you that the unit is still plugged in. And I believe that light blinks when the unit switches polarity. That yellow light goes out when you unplug the unit before removing the clips from the silver bars. My unit has no red light, but it does have the switch that allows you to choose between standard brewing time and fast. Mine is always set on standard. Does any of this help you? MA
