RE: CSRe: Advice please

2011-05-09 Thread Neville Munn

I believe we get all three.
 
Which is best? - Open to individuals opinion probly, or opinion based on 
perceived personal experience or application for efficacy.
 
Nano - Most literature I've found indicates between1-100nm in size, but this 
apparently applies to spherical shapes.  I don't believe we produce spherical 
shapes in the home.  The clusters of atoms forming 'particles' would be of 
random shapes I believe, not necessarily true spheroids.  I consider them more 
crystal like in shape...in nano scale. 
 
Colloid - Again, most literature I've found indicates anything below/under 1 
micron in size can be termed a colloid.
 
Ionic - An ion is the smallest matter can be reduced in size before it loses 
its identity as that 'matter'.
 
Soo, all in all, we have mostly Ionic immediately after it's produced, and 
for every hour thereafter some of those Ions will continually collide with each 
other forming atomic clusters of ions, which are termed 'particles', and the 
ratio of ions to particles changes until a point of solution stability is 
reached over time.  Depending on how large those particles grow or become, they 
can still be classed as 'nano' in my book.
 
N.



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Which is best: nano, colloidal, or ionic - silver?  I am getting confused of 
which of the three is best.  I know when we home brew we get mostly ionic and 
just a little colloidal.  How about nano, none?
 
Thanks.
 
Melly

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Re: CSRe: Advice please

2011-05-09 Thread Ode Coyote



  The term nano is a unit of measure like calling something 'inch silver'
It's a meaningless sales gimmick.

Ode


At 09:12 PM 5/8/2011 -0700, you wrote:
Which is best: nano, colloidal, or ionic - silver?  I am getting confused 
of which of the three is best.  I know when we home brew we get mostly 
ionic and just a little colloidal.  How about nano, none?


Thanks.

Melly

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Re: CSpsoriasis

2011-05-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This is very interesting Bob, I will pass it on.  Many thanks.  dee


On 8 May 2011, at 19:26, bob Larson wrote:

 autoimmune problem.
 CS alone may help to some extent, but from my observations the last couple
 years LDN low dose naltrexone is the thing first for any/all autoimmune
 issues.
 i've seen many reports, no failures, of varying (mostly high) success with
 psoriasis... 
 
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 Subject: CSpsoriasis
 
 can anyone tell me if they have had any luck in treating this 
 condition please?  dee
 
 
 
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Re: CSpsoriasis

2011-05-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the 
liposomal Vit C?  dee


On 9 May 2011, at 03:35, Guyot Léna wrote:

 Hi Diane,
 Yes, lecithin IS worth trying. I take 2T lecithin granules daily; have for a 
 couple years now. I know it's good for lots of things, so I haven't given it 
 up, despite that fact that it hasn't made a difference in my psoriasis. sigh.
 
 I think many people with psoriasis run the gamut of great, well-recommended 
 remedies, and by trial and error, may eventually find just the right one. 
 Most of us have spent a fortune on these over the years. I've always had a 
 fantasy of a 'great psoriasis remedy swap', where everyone could meet and try 
 leftovers of what hasn't worked for others. ;)
 
 I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my patches now. 
 And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that certainly won't hurt.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 On May 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Diane Mackey wrote:
 
 Lena,
  
 I had severe eczema, three times, as a baby, as a teen, and in my mid 20s.  
 In my 20s, someone told me to take Lecithiin for the eczema, and I did and it 
 work beautifully within a couple of weeks.  When my elderly grandmother got a 
 bad case of psoriasis, I gave her a bottle of lecithin and it worked well for 
 her too, but took a bit longer.  She took two caps of lecithin three times a 
 day along with a Vitamin E capsule.  In about a month it looked great.
  
 Lecithin is cheap and keeps things moist from the inside out, amongst other 
 great benefits.  It certainly is worth trying.
  
 Diane
  
 From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:39 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis
  
 Hi Bob,
 Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis. Unfortunately, within 
 a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face, which I'd never had before in 20 
 years! I stuck it out for a couple months, with the patches spreading 
 steadily, and then another person mentioned that LDN had done that with him 
 as well, and I finally gave it up.
 My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my great 
 relief. 
 Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of anything 
 that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and in some cases, may 
 even make things worse.
  
 Thanks anyway,
 Be well,
 Léna
 On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote:
  
 


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Re: CSpsoriasis

2011-05-09 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi Dee,

I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years  
as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other  
aspects of healing.


Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people  
with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as  
to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses,  
but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop  
out onto my face. It was a nightmare.


Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of  
cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to  
still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my  
best shot.


As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily  
diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy  
things that certainly won't hurt.'


Thanks anyway.
Be well,
Léna
On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e.  
made the liposomal Vit C?  dee



On 9 May 2011, at 03:35, Guyot Léna wrote:


Hi Diane,
Yes, lecithin IS worth trying. I take 2T lecithin granules daily;  
have for a couple years now. I know it's good for lots of things, so  
I haven't given it up, despite that fact that it hasn't made a  
difference in my psoriasis. sigh.


I think many people with psoriasis run the gamut of great, well- 
recommended remedies, and by trial and error, may eventually find  
just the right one. Most of us have spent a fortune on these over  
the years. I've always had a fantasy of a 'great psoriasis remedy  
swap', where everyone could meet and try leftovers of what hasn't  
worked for others. ;)


I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily diminishing my  
patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that  
certainly won't hurt.


Be well,
Léna

On May 8, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Diane Mackey wrote:

Lena,

I had severe eczema, three times, as a baby, as a teen, and in my  
mid 20s.  In my 20s, someone told me to take Lecithiin for the  
eczema, and I did and it work beautifully within a couple of weeks.   
When my elderly grandmother got a bad case of psoriasis, I gave her  
a bottle of lecithin and it worked well for her too, but took a bit  
longer.  She took two caps of lecithin three times a day along with  
a Vitamin E capsule.  In about a month it looked great.


Lecithin is cheap and keeps things moist from the inside out,  
amongst other great benefits.  It certainly is worth trying.


Diane

From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSpsoriasis

Hi Bob,
Yes, I did, and because it was suggested for psoriasis.  
Unfortunately, within a week I suddenly had outbreaks on my face,  
which I'd never had before in 20 years! I stuck it out for a couple  
months, with the patches spreading steadily, and then another person  
mentioned that LDN had done that with him as well, and I finally  
gave it up.
My new regime is very slowly shrinking these back, though, to my  
great relief.
Everyone is different, which I always mention whenever I speak of  
anything that's worked for me, as I know it may not for others; and  
in some cases, may even make things worse.


Thanks anyway,
Be well,
Léna
On May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, bob Larson wrote:





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Re: CSRe: Advice please

2011-05-09 Thread Marshall
Nano is an advertising term for colloidal, they are the same thing.  
Nano means extremely small particles, colloidal means particles small 
enough to stay suspended in water.


Marshall

On 5/9/2011 12:12 AM, Melly Bag wrote:
Which is best: nano, colloidal, or ionic - silver?  I am getting 
confused of which of the three is best.  I know when we home brew we 
get mostly ionic and just a little colloidal.  How about nano, none?

Thanks.
Melly

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Re: CSpsoriasis

2011-05-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
But is this liposomal C or just ordinary ascorbic acid?  The liposomal C 
incorporates lecithin and makes the Vit C highly absorbable.  dee


On 9 May 2011, at 15:57, Guyot Léna wrote:

 Hi Dee,
 
 I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years as part 
 of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other aspects of 
 healing. 
 
 Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for people with 
 chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on info as to how to 
 get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding expenses, but for me, it 
 not only didn't work, it made a discreet problem pop out onto my face. It was 
 a nightmare. 
 
 Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of 
 cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to still 
 present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my best shot. 
 
 As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily 
 diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy things that 
 certainly won't hurt.'
 
 Thanks anyway.
 Be well,
 Léna 
 On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e. made the 
 liposomal Vit C?  dee
 
 


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Re: CSpsoriasis

2011-05-09 Thread Guyot Léna
I take lecithin. I take 15 g of good vitamin C daily. I do not make  
liposomal C, as I haven't felt the need, and what with making my own  
CS, Kefir, Kombucha, distilled water, and other potions, lotions, eye  
drops, Mag oil sprays, as well as encapsulations of Himmy salt,  
C.O.T., B.S. M.S.M., Moringa, Modifilan, and what-not, I've hit my  
limit, especially as my use of the C I'm doing has been highly  
successful in reducing my Lyme.


Again, My use of feverfew, gotu kola, and Fumaric acid seems to be  
doing the trick.


Be well,
Léna
On May 9, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

But is this liposomal C or just ordinary ascorbic acid?  The liposomal  
C incorporates lecithin and makes the Vit C highly absorbable.  dee



On 9 May 2011, at 15:57, Guyot Léna wrote:


Hi Dee,

I don't know. I've only been doing 15g of C a day for almost 4 years  
as part of my SC Lyme routine. It's been highly effective in other  
aspects of healing.


Not everything works for everyone. That is especially true for  
people with chronic Lyme. I still suggest LDN to others, and pass on  
info as to how to get it, by-passing reluctant docs, and compounding  
expenses, but for me, it not only didn't work, it made a discreet  
problem pop out onto my face. It was a nightmare.


Perhaps it was a healing crisis, but after almost three months of  
cause-and-effect worsening, and the unhappy situation of trying to  
still present a 'normal' face to the world, I feel that I gave it my  
best shot.


As I said before, 'I'm grateful that my combo seems to be steadily  
diminishing my patches now. And glad that I'm doing other healthy  
things that certainly won't hurt.'


Thanks anyway.
Be well,
Léna
On May 9, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Would it have worked do you think, if you put the Vit C in it i.e.  
made the liposomal Vit C?  dee






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